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Dyna question
Server: Sylph
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-06-18 12:17:27
This is completely unrelated off of the first topic, but still a dynamis question and I kinda didn't want to make a thread for it. D: But what's a good setup/strategy for ADL?
Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2012-06-18 12:30:08
how many people do you have? we've been doing 2h ddx5 + 1 cor mule + as many smn as possible + scholar mule.. TH doesnt seem to help too much with doubles >.> but we only got 1 double out of like 50 kills
cor does chaos/fighters and drops from dd party, scholar embrava and holds tabula rasa on the ???, smn hastega's the dds, smn astral flows, someone pops and smn does alexander right after pop
have 1 dd as the assist and just ws it down to ~50% when it'll start summoning a clone and it'll be invincible during this time, everyone swap to 1 clone (designate someone an assist), need to be rolling shock squalls at this point near perfectly and just smash them down as fast as possible
unless you get terrorfucked or 2+ dds get hit with a terra slash theres no need to 2hr and make sure summoners waiting to squall stand 30' away so they dont get stunned/paraed/bound
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-06-18 12:56:11
I'm not exactly sure how much people we have to do it, it was just sort of a plan thing and I was curious what minimum people were required to do it effectively.
Is "Number of clones appears to be based on ADL's HP at the time of cloning. Recommended to take it easy on the first form." true? If so, does that change the zerg strats in any way? lol
Shiva.Paulu
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-06-18 13:25:53
The goal is to take the pre-cloning ADL as close to 41% hp as possible. Any lower and it will split into 3 instead of 2. So yes, somewhat true. My LS had several cases where we killed the first clone and had enough time to kill the 2nd before he recloned because we got him down to 45%ish pre-split.
No matter what though there is a luck factor in there with terror and his clone timing isn't static. Sometimes we've seen him split at 65%, which makes it nearly impossible to kill both before reclones. I'd say Fondue's setup is pretty much the bare minimum to have reasonable success rates.
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-06-18 13:35:32
he clones more than once? :< (I've never really read up on ADL so don't sue me! lol.:s)
Phoenix.Dometig
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By Phoenix.Dometig 2012-06-18 13:44:30
Just wondering if any one has tried to solo Quiebitiel on bst? I need the item for dagger but i can't find any info on how to kill it, it looks like it could be a tough solo dealing enough dmg before benediction looks impossible but can it be done?
sorry if this is off topic any info would be nice thanks
Shiva.Paulu
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By Shiva.Paulu 2012-06-18 13:55:39
He will keep cloning if you aren't quick enough. If you kill the first one and its fake you only have a brief window to kill the other one, which will most likely turn into a total of 3 or 4 ADLs. At that point its pretty much over.
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-06-18 13:58:01
He will keep cloning if you aren't quick enough. If you kill the first one and its fake you only have a brief window to kill the other one, which will most likely turn into a total of 3 or 4 ADLs. At that point its pretty much over. Gross. :<
Edit: so basically if it goes right and there're two ADLs, so there's a 50/50 chance of killing it, and then if the ADL wasnt it, the other one reclones into 3-4? D:
Carbuncle.Burkey
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By Carbuncle.Burkey 2012-06-18 22:26:07
after about 20 solo runs at qufim im getting sortve fed up with no cor boots drop. anyone with them - any insight? which mobs were you fighting and where? thanks
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-06-18 22:30:02
He will keep cloning if you aren't quick enough. If you kill the first one and its fake you only have a brief window to kill the other one, which will most likely turn into a total of 3 or 4 ADLs. At that point its pretty much over. Gross. :<
Edit: so basically if it goes right and there're two ADLs, so there's a 50/50 chance of killing it, and then if the ADL wasnt it, the other one reclones into 3-4? D: ADL will reclone itself, and can do so again if you guess wrong a second time, etc. His HP will be lower the next time, so he'll spawn at least as many clones as he did previously. Can spawn up to three clones at a time iirc, so... yeah.
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By Sylph.Binckry 2012-06-18 23:41:53
Gross.
Phoenix.Suji
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-06-19 00:22:29
after about 20 solo runs at qufim im getting sortve fed up with no cor boots drop. anyone with them - any insight? which mobs were you fighting and where? thanks Have you only been killing Nightmare mobs?
Carbuncle.Burkey
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By Carbuncle.Burkey 2012-06-19 00:26:28
after about 20 solo runs at qufim im getting sortve fed up with no cor boots drop. anyone with them - any insight? which mobs were you fighting and where? thanks Have you only been killing Nightmare mobs? everything. beastmen, nightmare mobs, both ep and dc.
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By Odin.Calipso 2012-06-19 01:06:10
Nightmare mobs don't drop relic, only relic -1 and accessories if you didn't notice that already. If you're going to Qufim soley for for Cor boots, I'd stick to just slaughtering as many beastmen a run as possible. Don't need to proc for AF to drop.
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Phoenix.Suji
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-06-20 17:13:00
Calipso, I've tested your loop three times so far and, although our average has gone up by ~40 over three runs, 620 is still sounding really far off.
I hate to ask, but are you guys using Clipper or something? We're still very much throttled by proc speed and movement speed. I even brought my mule today to help proc and we still only got 519,39 but all mobs were killed well before they came unproc'd. I could see Clipper pushing it up a fair bit.
We did have a noticeable number of 1-drops and 2-drops today though so I could see a 600 spike if we get really lucky, but averaging that still seems very difficult.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-06-20 17:28:39
Not quite duo, but a friend and I duo on THF/DNC + DNC/WAR and he brings his WHM mule dualboxed, and we net around 550-600+ with 40-50 touches in Valk. I think our best was around 639-49.
When I solo on DNC/THF, I have been getting 210-230+ with 15-20+ touches. I think my best was 239-21.
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-06-20 17:31:38
Not quite duo, but a friend and I duo on THF/DNC + DNC/WAR and he brings his WHM mule dualboxed, and we net around 550-600+ with 40-50 touches in Valk. I think our best was around 639-49.
When I solo on DNC/THF, I have been getting 210-230+ with 15-20+ touches. I think my best was 239-21.
The whm mule only cures, hastes, and occasionally if I remember boost-str will put that up. Doesn't do any pulling or anything. I know we've gotten over 630 currency in our best currency and 63 touches in our best forgotten stage.
We've broken 600 even doing WS mobs during a phase because of competition. Entirely possible if the camps are open.
Phoenix.Suji
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-06-20 17:55:30
Not quite duo, but a friend and I duo on THF/DNC + DNC/WAR and he brings his WHM mule dualboxed, and we net around 550-600+ with 40-50 touches in Valk. I think our best was around 639-49.
When I solo on DNC/THF, I have been getting 210-230+ with 15-20+ touches. I think my best was 239-21.
The whm mule only cures, hastes, and occasionally if I remember boost-str will put that up. Doesn't do any pulling or anything. I know we've gotten over 630 currency in our best currency and 63 touches in our best forgotten stage.
We've broken 600 even doing WS mobs during a phase because of competition. Entirely possible if the camps are open. Which loop is that?
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By Siren.Mcclane 2012-06-20 17:59:44
Not quite duo, but a friend and I duo on THF/DNC + DNC/WAR and he brings his WHM mule dualboxed, and we net around 550-600+ with 40-50 touches in Valk. I think our best was around 639-49.
When I solo on DNC/THF, I have been getting 210-230+ with 15-20+ touches. I think my best was 239-21.
The whm mule only cures, hastes, and occasionally if I remember boost-str will put that up. Doesn't do any pulling or anything. I know we've gotten over 630 currency in our best currency and 63 touches in our best forgotten stage.
We've broken 600 even doing WS mobs during a phase because of competition. Entirely possible if the camps are open. Which loop is that?
Sheep > Treants > Funguars. If there's competition in Funguars, sometimes it's better to stay on Treants for WS
Phoenix.Suji
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By Phoenix.Suji 2012-06-20 18:24:56
Edit: Nevermind, thanks.
My friend and I like doing dynamis(we would probably make more money going solo, but we prefer to duo anyways)and I see many people claiming to average 200-250 solo, and some saying 350 average for a duo. We can generally only manage 200-240. We go to valk or bubu and we know how to proc and get TEs and all that. We are not the best geared by any means, but we dont run around in pearle or aurore either. I have blu, bst and drk. He has Thf, Dnc, Drg. We used to go as Thf and Blu, but switched to Thf and Bst lately. In Valk we go hippos, treants, funguars and in bubu we go ravens, rabbits, scorpions. What are we doing wrong if anything? Also, should we be on the same mobs in order to get full effect of thf th or should we be completely split. Basically, what sort of killing/proccing strategy should we use as a duo?
Thank you for any help in advance!
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