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The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
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By Bahamut.Cantontai 2013-04-29 17:07:24
It's about the same damage as a 99 Amano or 90 Ukon, with 240 delay.
D:
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-04-29 18:49:14
Quick question now that SE has made the NQ hexed gear augmentable are any of the Trans.NQ gear any good?
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By Odin.Arkista 2013-04-29 18:56:15
Oh dear... More like Oh Myyy!
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By Asura.Redshift 2013-04-29 18:56:46
Oh dear...
 ...I need to clean myself up in the bathroom
Phoenix.Thorbean
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-04-29 19:23:00
lol thats insane, i really hope we are gonna actually need this kinda equip.
Dev1: Lets move away from this 30 second zerg problem we have and bring more strategy back in to the game.
Dev2: This may take all night sir, should we order pizza?
Dev1: I like your thinking #2 make mine a peperonni special, and double the peppe.r.o.n...
Dev2: Sir?
Dev1: We provide weapons with DOUBLE the damage of the new weapons! We've cracked it #2!
Dev2: But Sir... The zer-
Dev2: Silence #1! make it happen!
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By Asura.Redshift 2013-04-29 19:33:35
Do I... Do I even bother to DW this beast?
Phoenix.Thorbean
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-04-29 19:38:36
lmao IKR??? I'll be keeping my 5/5 req me thinky.
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-04-29 19:40:05
I hadn't thought of that but... I figure that getting tp faster is still pretty valuable considering how much damage the ws will do but I'd like to see someone run some numbers on it.
Phoenix.Thorbean
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-04-29 19:43:59
I'd think extra attack/str on the offhand + offhand hit will be a nice boost too. Especialy with req attack penalty
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-04-29 19:59:48
Or perhaps this?
Main hand:

Off hand:
Where are the craftable swords though? I could only find R/EX
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By Asura.Redshift 2013-04-29 20:10:22
Seems as if swords got the shaft on craftable weapons. I can only imagine there will be more wtfbbq weapons added later on.
This might be a good time to take a break from the game until this storm settles..
Phoenix.Thorbean
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By Phoenix.Thorbean 2013-04-29 20:15:14
jesus christ, i didn't even see that!
Edit: any way to .dat edit req > cdc anim? :D
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-04-29 20:29:51
I'd imagine that at some point R/E/M's will be updated and will likely be better again but with SE we have no idea what that upgrade will involve. They will certainly be a long freakin trial to upgrade from scratch, I hope that the new weapons will at least be quite difficult to get and require some form of progression to keep old content valid.
Ragnarok.Phettyx
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By Ragnarok.Phettyx 2013-05-01 00:26:57
Ragnarok.Sekundes said: »Or perhaps this?
Main hand:

Off hand:
Where are the craftable swords though? I could only find R/EX Halachuinic is supposedly augmentable in the same way as armor I hear.
Also with talk of DD/Thf what spells can blu efflux/ca sneak attack decently now? Friend and I were talking about it not long ago when talking about a blu who wanted a lv99 Cannonball SA set...
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-05-01 01:10:07
I doubt /thf will be relevant for much of anything. I'm somewhat doubting we'll ever single wield but even if /thf was viable, we'd probably set DWIII anyway.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-01 01:16:27
Single wielding one of the new god tier swords is actually superior to dual wielding one of them with a pre-delve sword. Two delve swords is better than single, selve club+delve sword potentially as well.
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2013-05-01 01:21:57
As shocked as I am to say this, If we end up DWing the Club and Sword would Realm be better then Req due to the 30 additional damage on the club?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-01 01:33:53
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-01 01:50:35
As shocked as I am to say this, If we end up DWing the Club and Sword would Realm be better then Req due to the 30 additional damage on the club?
Before accounting for disparity in weapon D, Realmrazer's base damage is about 87.7% of Requiescat's and suffers from BLU's lower club skill compared to sword, however it doesn't suffer from the massive attack penalty. It's a candidate but I haven't looked too thoroughly at it yet
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By Asura.Ackeronll 2013-05-01 02:03:22
Kinda funny if it happens to be better. Going from CdC to Req to Realmrazer in the span of 3 weeks.
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2013-05-01 08:01:42
Interesting that we could possibly be single wielding in some situations, at least for a bit until you get the 2 current best swords anyway.
While I haven't looked in to it too much yet so my info is sketchy at best but I hear that at least some Delve nms have insane evasion, making even the best geared have near floored acc.
What kind of set would be best considering our current top end tp set would result in 21~25% hit rate? Is there a better acc food than sole +1? Off-hand a dex shikargar I would figure?
Here's a few accuracy items ordered by accuracy/dex, not how good they actually are.
Main/sub Buramenk'ah > Halachuinic Sword > Dex Shikargar
Head: Whirlpool Mask > Chocaliztli Mask > Khepri Bonnet > Mavi Kavuk +2
Neck: Ej Necklace (+1) > Ziel Charm > Ancient Torque > Peacock Charm
Earrings: Heartseeker > Steelflash > Tati Earring (+1) > Belatz Pearl > Ghillie (+1)
Body: Manibozho Jerkin > Khepri Jacket > Taranis's Harness > Enif Corazza > Mextli Harness > Mirage Jubbah +2 > Mavi Mintan +2 > Thaumas Coat
Hands: Thurandaut Gloves > Myrmex Mittens > Thaumas Gloves
Rings: Oneiros Annulet > Mars's Ring
Back: Letalis Mantle > Dauntless Mantle > Attacker's Mantle > Sharpeye Mantle > Feline Mantle Aife's Mantle
Waist: Anguinus Belt > Virtuoso Belt > Dynamic Belt (+1) > Phasmida Belt
Legs: Thaumas Kecks > XuX Trousers > Aurore Brais
Feet: Dux Greaves (+1) > Fea's Pigaches > Savateur's Gaiters > Alcide's Leggings (+1) > Enif Gambieras
I wonder what our Super High acc build would look like?
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 13:27:43
Honestly Delve seems like another kind of content that BLU's aren't very good at (like Legion).
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-05-01 13:39:21
The D104 sword is easy to get. Plasma is pretty easy to farm. No idea where the D130 comes from, but maybe a boss drop.
I have to agree that BLU, at least in melee form, would be pretty much worthless on most of these NMs. BLU tank may work decently well considering that if a mob rages, the PLD is no longer able to block. BLU/WAR can achieve much higher DEF than PLD. BLU nuker might work? I don't know. It seems like, at that point, you'd be better off just bringing a BLM.
I'm hoping they make further one-handed adjustments if this is the new content going forward, or adjustments to blue magic. BLU is efficient at farming plasma, however.
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By Bismarck.Diablosword 2013-05-01 13:56:38
BLU is efficient at farming plasma, however.
Farming plasma.. like soloing mobs and using the shards? Or is there another way Im not familiar with?
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-05-01 14:14:44
Bismarck.Diablosword said: » BLU is efficient at farming plasma, however.
Farming plasma.. like soloing mobs and using the shards? Or is there another way Im not familiar with?
Yeah. Got 5.1k in a couple hours. Could technically get the sword in one day if you can stare at a computer screen for that long.
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By Bismarck.Diablosword 2013-05-01 14:35:31
Bismarck.Diablosword said: » BLU is efficient at farming plasma, however.
Farming plasma.. like soloing mobs and using the shards? Or is there another way Im not familiar with?
Yeah. Got 5.1k in a couple hours. Could technically get the sword in one day if you can stare at a computer screen for that long.
Ahh, good to know. Any idea if TH affects shard drop rate?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2013-05-01 14:58:17
Honestly Delve seems like another kind of content that BLU's aren't very good at (like Legion).
Pending nukes potency, BLU is in a better position than a lot of other jobs. SA/TA/CA/EFF Benthic Typhoon/Vanity Dive/Cannonball supplemented by nukes and requiescat gives BLU quite a varied arsenal.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-05-01 17:30:22
Bismarck.Diablosword said: »Bismarck.Diablosword said: » BLU is efficient at farming plasma, however.
Farming plasma.. like soloing mobs and using the shards? Or is there another way Im not familiar with?
Yeah. Got 5.1k in a couple hours. Could technically get the sword in one day if you can stare at a computer screen for that long.
Ahh, good to know. Any idea if TH affects shard drop rate?
No idea, but I would assume so. I can say there is no time limit between drops like with seals. Got a few back-to-back drops.
Phoenix.Tsuekasa
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By Phoenix.Tsuekasa 2013-05-01 20:44:53
Ok, got a question. As a starting out Blue, what spells are worth picking up and what ones can really be ignored unless I want to be a completionist.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-05-01 20:46:15
Feather Barrier can be ignored, for starters.
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