The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage

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By Shichishito 2025-06-01 13:15:35
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It's time for Onion Sword III and fast blade II sets discussion!

Started with the Almace High set from Prothescar's guide as a base and replaced anything exclusively for crit rate/dmg in there, let me know what you think:

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- Rosmerta would be 30 DEX, 20 ACC/ATT, 10% Double Attack, -5% DT
- Moonshade with 250 TP bonus augment

- I'm not sure about Gleti's Mask, Gloves and Boots. They only add PDL and good attack but no multi attack.
- Is Kentarch Belt +1 a worthy contender vs Sailfi Belt +1? probably not.
- maybe switch Mache earring +1 or Hashishin Earring +2 with Moonshade Earring?


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- Rosmerta would be 30 DEX, 20 ACC/ATT, 10% Double Attack, -5% DT
- Switch crepusuclar pebble / Jukukik Feather with Falcon Eye if having ACC issues.

- What would be a good none Mirage Stole option for neck? Clotharius Torque?

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By Nariont 2025-06-01 13:36:46
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tp bonus is king, moonshade, thibron are going in unless you build to 2k in which an actual OH would be better, whether that pays off vs just spamming at 1k idk.

Beyond that you're focusing on DEX where you cant fit in lots of MA, mache earring over +2 earring, depending on how far into glass sets you wanna go adhemar gloves/samnuha tights are solid swaps off top of my head.

BLU neck options are trash, +2 > +1 > nq > everything else basically, even moreso with its dump of dex, though fotia may be better than nq. Looking over similar ftp ws fotia seems to be better than all, especially since there's no pdl on blu's neck
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By Shichishito 2025-06-01 15:22:44
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Is OSIII BiS for Almace CdC spam or is Flametongue better?
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By Nariont 2025-06-01 15:27:11
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yes
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By SimonSes 2025-06-01 15:57:04
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Sim shows this as best set for FBII for BLU:


not attack capped:

main="Onion Sword III",
sub="Thibron",
ranged=Empty,
ammo="Coiste Bodhar",
head="Hashishin Kavuk +3",
body="Adhemar Jacket +1",
hands="Adhemar Wrist. +1",
legs="Nyame Flanchard",
feet="Nyame Sollerets",
neck="Mirage Stole +2",
waist="Sailfi Belt +1",
ear1="Moonshade Earring",
ear2="Mache Earring +1",
ring1="Ephramad's ring",
ring2="Epona's Ring",
back="Rosmerta's Cape",

attack capped:

main="Onion Sword III",
sub="Thibron",
ranged=Empty,
ammo="Coiste Bodhar",
head="Gleti's Mask",
body="Gleti's Cuirass",
hands="Adhemar Wrist. +1",
legs="Gleti's Breeches",
feet="Gleti's Boots",
neck="Mirage Stole +2",
waist="Sailfi Belt +1",
ear1="Mache Earring +1",
ear2="Moonshade Earring",
ring1="Epona's Ring",
ring2="Ephramad's ring",
back="Rosmerta's Cape",
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-01 18:04:28
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I don't get why the sim is suggesting you Ephramad in a non att capped scenario... Aside from the fact that not everybody picked Ephramad, if we rule the PDL out it's exactly the same as Regal Ring, isn't it?
Yet There's no trace of Regal Ring in the uncapped list.
What am I missing?

Adhemar in the body and hands slot must be because path B offers very high levels of attack and among the best DEX available, together with a bit of TA, which is huge for a WS with replicating http://fTP.

Still, at least in the body slot Gleti must be close behind at R30.
-11 DEX
+1 STR
+15 Att
-4% TA
+10% DA

All of that while offering much higher acc and way better defensive stats. Might be worth it for a small DPS loss.
There's Nyame B as well of course. Compared to Gleti R30 it's slightly more STR, less DEX, slightly less att and acc, slightly less DA but +13% WSD (which will work only for the first hit).
Bet Nyame B R30 must be pretty close as well.

I'm talking about the att uncapped scenario of course, where the PDL on Gleti is irrelevant.
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By SimonSes 2025-06-01 18:56:09
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Asura.Sechs said: »
if we rule the PDL out it's exactly the same as Regal Ring, isn't it?

I would guess it must be something connected to BLU not being able to wear it ;)
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By Asura.Sechs 2025-06-01 19:02:12
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Duh! There you go!
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By SimonSes 2025-06-01 19:05:54
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Asura.Sechs said: »
There's Nyame B as well of course. Compared to Gleti R30 it's slightly more STR, less DEX, slightly less att and acc, slightly less DA but +13% WSD (which will work only for the first hit).

Nyame body is actually like 0.02% ahead at R30, but I have a habit of checking that box in sim, that limits Nyame to R25. At R30 it's actually 5/5 Nyame and it's almost 2% ahead.
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By K123 2025-06-02 05:13:13
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So even at attack cap the 3% WSD or 3% PDL aren't better than Coiste?
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By spicychai 2025-06-13 05:46:17
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Hi, had some questions about BLU.

I'm a RDM main, semi-invested with malignance 5/5, crocea, tauret, thibron, naegling, maxientus, JSE capes, +2 JSE for mostly everything, curing set, no MAB or Nyame though.

I played BLU before migrated to RDM so it's mastered, but I have no JSE. Part of the reason I stopped was because I wasn't planning to get a Tizona and I was told BLU kind of suffers eventually relying just on Naegling (not sure why, MP?).

Anyway, I love RDM but I was curious about the finer pros and cons BLU has against RDM because I find a lot of its kit quite fun. I enjoy soloing content a lot too so there's that.
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By Kaffy 2025-06-13 07:02:47
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blu has much shorter buff durations, but more variety, including mighty guard and nat. meditation. can set almost any trait imaginable as needed.

blu is king of on demand aoe magic damage. sudden lunge stun is highly abusable and shuts down a lot of solo fights.

tizona is amazing and does make mp management a breeze, but you can naegling just fine if you want to try the job out. empy +2 is really strong and easy to acquire.

even if you don't end up gearing it to max, you'll have tons of gear shared by rdm as you mentioned.

imo learning spells is quintessential FFXI experience, fighting every mob type across many zones can be fun on its own.
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By Shichishito 2025-06-13 08:35:41
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I don't think there is much a BLU could do over your RDM.

BLUs only real strength is AoE magic damage and it has been nerfed right from the get go in odyssey where it would have been realy handy. Looks like it's also nerfed in limbus.
BLUs kit only looks versatile on paper, in practice important debuffs often don't land at all due to beeing excluded from the immunobreak mechanic and if they land the durations often leave a lot to be desired.

Sudden lunge often only lands on fodder, it's unreliable even at capped acc/macc and it's duration drops significantly after the second and third cast.
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By SimonSes 2025-06-13 08:57:49
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spicychai said: »
Anyway, I love RDM but I was curious about the finer pros and cons BLU has against RDM because I find a lot of its kit quite fun. I enjoy soloing content a lot too so there's that.

pros:
- Crowd control Aoe petrify, dark sleep, light sleep, gravity, silence, stun, flash, Terror etc.
- AoE magic damage
- stronger cures, including AoE cures
- TP reset with few spells
- Sudden Lunge is an up to 15 sec stun, that works on a lot of mobs and potentially can be even stronger now with AF+4
- can apply -33% def and -30% mdb. Both are pretty short duration and requires JA to cast them, but are very powerful for melee or magic zergs (or things like Kaustra on Bumba)
- ability to boost defense, mdb, haste (Haste II or Haste from Mighty Guard, which stacks with Haste spells) and attack for self and JA to use it for party. duration on most spells are short and JA has 10m cooldown so you cant sustain even one effect for a party 100% of the time, but its still situationally very useful.
- many other unique spells that requires JA use on 5 min cooldown, like Absolute Terror used for Summoner ambuscade, Aquaveil with 10 aquavail procs, AoE doom, Full Dispel that cant be resisted unless some unique mechanic, full erase, etc.
- you can skillchain with spells, but only once after using 75-120 sec cooldown JA, or during SP1.
- ability to set rare traits like Inquartata or traits unique to BLU like magic evasion bonus
- light dispel, absorb, unresistable dispel
- light based spell that steals MP based on damage done (doesn't work against undead). Can pretty much fill whole mp bar when applicable.
- many spells with good enmity generation
- very potent stoneskin against magical damage
- unique Damage reduction spells, which doesn't stack with phalanx, but is calculated after ragular DT, so bypass 50%DT cap.
- aoe erase

cons:
- no Temper II, so less multiattack
- cant have access to all spells at the same time
- no good piercing options beside Sinker Drill being pretty good spamable physical spell, but for sure not as strong as being able to wield Prime dagger or even Mandau.
- being able to magic burst only once after using job ability on 75-120 sec cooldown
- enfeebling effects on spells (like paralyze, slow) are much less potent than bis RDM
- no Dia


There is more for sure, but that's a good start
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By SimonSes 2025-06-13 09:05:55
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Shichishito said: »
Sudden lunge often only lands on fodder, it's unreliable even at capped acc/macc and it's duration drops significantly after the second and third cast.

This is very untrue. It can easily shutdown Dhartok for example and while stun resist duration is build pretty fast after several casts, you can still apply few seconds stuns and cooldown on spell is so low, that you can spam it and stun lock even when duration is only 1 sec eventually.

Shichishito said: »
BLUs kit only looks versatile on paper

No it doesn't really. It is in fact very versatile and lots of effects works on a lot of endgame targets. I abuse Entomb to petrify 95% of mobs in Limbus and 90% of mobs in Segments for example. I could give you tons of end game debuff applications coming from BLU. You just think it doesn't work, because you mostly think about slow and paralyze when thinking abut endgame debuffs probably.
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By Shichishito 2025-06-13 09:36:50
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There have been many times I looked up the gimmick of a mob and thought "hey, BLU has something for that" only to find out it doesn't work or is too weak to counter it.

One example that comes to mind is maju, BLU afaik has at least one if not several blind options (with lousy durations) but you can't immunobreak so it doesn't land.
I've also attempted multiple times to land silent storm for silence on Odin but if it sticks at all it's no where near the 5 minute duration stated on the wiki (is that even correct?).

Not really knowing whether it landed until you see it wearing off or the mob casting a spell doesn't help much either.


Stealing buffs is another thing that looks awesome on paper. In practice you steal for instance HTBF shinryus mighty guard you get a regain effect that lasts 30 seconds or HTBF odins ygger loses it's intimdation effect so what's left is a attack buff that also lasts like 30 seconds and I'm not even sure if it stacks with natures mediation.


SimonSes said: »
No it doesn't really. It is in fact very versatile and lots of effects works on a lot of endgame targets. I abuse Entomb to petrify 95% of mobs in Limbus and 90% of mobs in Segments for example.
Maybe we have a different defenition of fodder but segment farming, pop NMs aside, is fodder and from what I read limbus currently is also just fodder.

BLU has good crowd control options, I'm not arguing that, but VS NMs a lot of its kit doesn't perform well, in particular not when you're coming from RDM where you're used to swell potency and duration.
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By K123 2025-06-13 09:40:48
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SimonSes said: »
Sim shows this as best set for FBII for BLU:


not attack capped:

main="Onion Sword III",
sub="Thibron",
ranged=Empty,
ammo="Coiste Bodhar",
head="Hashishin Kavuk +3",
body="Adhemar Jacket +1",
hands="Adhemar Wrist. +1",
legs="Nyame Flanchard",
feet="Nyame Sollerets",
neck="Mirage Stole +2",
waist="Sailfi Belt +1",
ear1="Moonshade Earring",
ear2="Mache Earring +1",
ring1="Ephramad's ring",
ring2="Epona's Ring",
back="Rosmerta's Cape",

attack capped:

main="Onion Sword III",
sub="Thibron",
ranged=Empty,
ammo="Coiste Bodhar",
head="Gleti's Mask",
body="Gleti's Cuirass",
hands="Adhemar Wrist. +1",
legs="Gleti's Breeches",
feet="Gleti's Boots",
neck="Mirage Stole +2",
waist="Sailfi Belt +1",
ear1="Mache Earring +1",
ear2="Moonshade Earring",
ring1="Epona's Ring",
ring2="Ephramad's ring",
back="Rosmerta's Cape",
So even at attack cap the 3% WSD or 3% PDL aren't better than Coiste?
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By Nariont 2025-06-13 09:52:59
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Shichishito said: »
One example that comes to mind is maju, BLU afaik has at least one if not several blind options (with lousy durations) but you can't immunobreak so it doesn't land.
I've also attempted multiple times to land silent storm for silence on Odin but if it sticks at all it's no where near the 5 minute duration stated on the wiki (is that even correct?).

I never actually tried to see if it was possible but you could cast blind to trigger a immunobreak then slap on the actual blind blu spell. End of the day the durations still crap though, probably blu's biggest weakness in its buff/debuff arsenal that i hope someday gets looked at as 1:00-1:30 durations on most stuff is awful, BLUs got a lot of very nice tools in its kit but they're all very short and when stuff can build resistance quickly its much preferred to have an actual debuff vs blu's mid-potency(in the debuffs that have a white/black respective debuff) low duration

Just make it tied to blu skill, put that thing to real use again
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By SimonSes 2025-06-13 12:44:18
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Shichishito said: »
Maybe we have a different defenition of fodder but segment farming, pop NMs aside, is fodder and from what I read limbus currently is also just fodder.

You wrote about sudden lunge in reference to fodders, I answered about Sudden lunge in reference to Dhartok. You took my response about blu being versatile and applied it as response to Sudden? logic...
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By SimonSes 2025-06-13 12:46:26
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K123 said: »
So even at attack cap the 3% WSD or 3% PDL aren't better than Coiste?

Not sure what you want me to write? It's a set thrown from simulation. If you are asking if Crepuscular was checked as an option, then yes it was.
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