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The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-11 09:56:06
Taeon can get 9 fast cast and multiple jobs can use it. In a blue thread, you assume it's for blue mage though. So making a piece for one job is fine. The multiple jobs thing only matters when you have multiple jobs to use it on.
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Ragnarok.Lowen
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
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By Ragnarok.Lowen 2021-03-11 11:30:32
Empyrean body+1 also has 14% blue magic fast cast.
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-11 11:36:10
That body leaves out recast reduction though, it's only the spell cast reduction that gets applied.
Ragnarok.Lowen
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By Ragnarok.Lowen 2021-03-11 11:52:28
Yeah, I'm assuming somewhere in most peoples' inventories is a body with enough haste to macro into the midcast.
Server: Asura
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By Asura.Zetaking 2021-03-11 13:06:22
now im curious what other people are using as there fast cast sets, this is what i use ItemSet 378624 "Rosmerta's Cape", augments= VIT+20','Eva.+20 /Mag. Eva.+20','VIT+10','"Fast Cast"+10','Phys. dmg. taken-10%' Carmine Mask +1 is path B
i eventually wanna upgrade the weather ring, and drop loq earring for some conserve mp, this set is 81% fast cast and 29 haste which is more than you need on both but yea... best way i could find for the Tetris blocks to fit....
By SimonSes 2021-03-11 13:24:26
I avoid quick magic because lag happens in worst moments. Also you only really need 65%. There is 0 situation where I wouldnt have fast cast trait.
I use this: Code ammo="Staunch tathlum +1",
head="Carmine Mask +1", --14
body="Pinga Tunic +1", --15
hands="Leyline Gloves", --8
legs="Pinga Pants +1", --13
feet="Malignance Boots",
neck="Loricate Torque +1",
waist="Flume Belt +1",
left_ear="Odnowa Earring +1",
right_ear="Loquac. Earring", --2
left_ring="Defending Ring"
right_ring="Kishar ring", --4
back=gear.BLU_FC_Cape --10
Lakshmi.Buukki
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
By Lakshmi.Buukki 2021-03-11 13:31:09
Erratic Flutter gives FCII trait, which is 15%. I do not have any spell builds where I don't use EF, so I can afford to drop some pieces to around 65% to cap out.
edit: simon said same thing
By Shichishito 2021-03-11 13:46:37
orunmil's torque has 5% FC. sapience adds 2% in ranged slot.
psycloth lappas path D 7% FC but you lose 4% haste compared to aya. cosciales +2 which will put you only at 25% haste with the rest of your set. you also trade some -DT, def and agility for magic evasion.
haven't considered pinga tunic +1 cause it can't be stored has no haste which can be a problem in some sets, has even less jobs on it than adhemar body, cost siginifcantly more and you still need the adoulin ring to cap FC with gear only.
it's a shame you need the adoulin ring to reach the cap with gear only but since you can cap FC without erratic flutter what spell do you replace it with? it's probably situational but i suppose retinal glares conserve MP trait helps a lot with sustain and maybe goes well with weatherspoon ring?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2021-03-11 13:52:45
Erratic Flutter gives FCII trait, which is 15%. I do not have any spell builds where I don't use EF, so I can afford to drop some pieces to around 65% to cap out.
edit: simon said same thing
10%. BLU starts at a unique ***tier of fast cast, flutter and JP bonus alone brings you to FC1.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2021-03-11 13:56:37
But you get two JP bonuses
Server: Asura
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By Asura.Wormfeeder 2021-03-11 14:02:13
wouldn't the 1200 gift make erratic flutter 20 fast cast, plus subbing rdm and you get another 15 fast cast
Server: Sylph
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By Sylph.Padisharcreel 2021-03-11 14:20:08
Traits from setting spells and traits from subjob don't stack.
By SimonSes 2021-03-11 14:36:03
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Erratic Flutter gives FCII trait, which is 15%. I do not have any spell builds where I don't use EF, so I can afford to drop some pieces to around 65% to cap out.
edit: simon said same thing
10%. BLU starts at a unique ***tier of fast cast, flutter and JP bonus alone brings you to FC1.
I understand it start with ***tier 5%, but JP should push that to 10% at 100gift and 15% at 1200gift no?
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By Asura.Zetaking 2021-03-11 14:36:55
forgive me i posted my dynamis fast cast set, my group normally has a rdm casting haste2 on the 2 tanks 2 melee dd and the 2 aoe blus. normal one drops the rings for Dring and gelatinus and some conserve mp earrings. and the real reason i have the pinga tunic +1 is for white wind, buttttt since i already got it >.>/
By SimonSes 2021-03-11 14:38:53
forgive me i posted my dynamis fast cast set, my group normally has a rdm casting haste2 on the 2 tanks 2 melee dd and the 2 aoe blus. normal one drops the rings for Dring and gelatinus and some conserve mp earrings. and the real reason i have the pinga tunic +1 is for white wind, buttttt since i already got it >.>/
I would still set FC trait for recast.
Asura.Nuance
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Nuance 2021-03-11 14:52:19
There’s 3 spells that I always set and that’s erratic flutter for FC trait and the two i can’t even remember the names of for dw lol
I do not see a reason to never not set those 3 in every set at a minimum
Server: Bahamut
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By Bahamut.Jedigamer 2021-03-11 14:54:10
ItemSet 375022
This is mine, minus the Iris. I'm sure it needs work.
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By Asura.Zetaking 2021-03-11 14:59:04
hmmm i should consider those pants would still have my haste caped and fast cast caped in non dynamis set, add some conserve mp and - rate tho lose some dt, still this is why its good to kit bash with others sometimes you miss stuff
ps the 2 other spells are more than likely delta thrust and barbed crescent
Server: Valefor
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2021-03-11 15:07:50
Valefor.Prothescar said: »Erratic Flutter gives FCII trait, which is 15%. I do not have any spell builds where I don't use EF, so I can afford to drop some pieces to around 65% to cap out.
edit: simon said same thing
10%. BLU starts at a unique ***tier of fast cast, flutter and JP bonus alone brings you to FC1.
I understand it start with ***tier 5%, but JP should push that to 10% at 100gift and 15% at 1200gift no?
Yeah you're right, I actually forgot that we get two trait bonus gifts. Mind ain't what it used to be
By SimonSes 2021-03-11 16:18:53
hmmm i should consider those pants would still have my haste caped and fast cast caped in non dynamis set, add some conserve mp and - rate tho lose some dt, still this is why its good to kit bash with others sometimes you miss stuff
ps the 2 other spells are more than likely delta thrust and barbed crescent
Doesn't conserve mp proc when you finish the casting? What's the point of having it in precast?
Bahamut.Omegus
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
By Bahamut.Omegus 2021-03-11 16:38:39
ItemSet 378631
My set caps both FC(with Erratic Flutter) and quick cast
I have never had any issues with sets not swapping with a quick cast proc
By SimonSes 2021-03-11 16:58:11
Even if you don't have problems with midcast with quick magic, what's the real benefit of it? There is not much spells that doesn't cast in fraction of seconds or need 0 sec recast and you lose so much DT and defensive stats. Afaik even if you have precast set for fraction of seconds you might get slapped hard if you try to for example cast dream flower while tanking 20 mobs? Maybe just create precast with quick magic for few selected spells that would benefit from it proccing?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2021-03-11 17:02:26
My answer to situations where I know interruption may be possible is to pop unbridled wisdom and put on carcharian verve. That thing is potent.
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Asura.Kusare
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Kusare 2021-03-11 17:16:27
i use a sird set for dream flower so i can cleave omen, verve for the nukes.
Bahamut.Omegus
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
By Bahamut.Omegus 2021-03-11 17:20:10
Why not have it if you can have it? people weren't talking about DT FS that's a completely different set.
Also the secondary effect of having zero cooldown on the QC procced spell. Double casting spectral flow back to back is always nice.
By SimonSes 2021-03-11 17:32:44
Valefor.Prothescar said: »My answer to situations where I know interruption may be possible is to pop unbridled wisdom and put on carcharian verve. That thing is potent.
True, but I was talking more to not get wrecked rather than not cast the spell :)
Why not have it if you can have it? people weren't talking about DT FS that's a completely different set.
I have too many sets to toogle around to make even more :P I also dont trust QM, but if if works for you, then Im happy for you :)
Asura.Sechs
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-11 18:08:10
Valefor.Prothescar said: »My answer to situations where I know interruption may be possible is to pop unbridled wisdom and put on carcharian verve. That thing is potent. Carcharian Verve is fantastic and lasts 15 mins or 10 interruptions and, best feature, doesn't rely on your sj.
Granted all I just said, I think a lot of people underestimates Aquaveil from /RDM.
With the right gear I think you can bring it to 7+ interruptions on BLU and you won't have to depend on the 5mins cooldown of Unbridled, which you'll be able to use for something else.
(what though? I guess Mighty Guard lol)
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By Asura.Zetaking 2021-03-11 18:13:06
i cast verve once for most omen farm runs, sometimes a second time right before the pixis out of fear (mainly because im down to like 1-2 mins on its effect by the time i reach them)
Asura.Sechs
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Game: FFXI
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By Asura.Sechs 2021-03-11 18:17:04
Is it because you evade most of the attacks, or what?
I haven't farmed Omen on BLU in ages -ages- and yes, runs used to last ~15 mins, but no way my Carcharian Verve lasted that much, it was disappearing way way earlier.
Wonder what is the key difference in our gear :-D
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