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Random Question thread (FFXI related)
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-15 14:17:08
If you're going to spend 150m and 12 hours farming a Daurdabla, you can probably spend 30m and 3 hours farming a Ghorn.
Fenrir.Jinxs
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By Fenrir.Jinxs 2023-12-15 14:20:27
Good luck playing Brd without Marsyas, Gjallarhorn and Daurdabla, imo. Marsyas and Daurdabla ok, but Ghorn? I bet you could pretend having Ghorn and the large majority of people wouldn't notice that you don't.
It's completely true a LOT of BRD mules have all 3, but that's another issue entirely imho. What is this horizon?
By Dodik 2023-12-15 14:25:43
Gjallar is the easiest and cheapest of them all and might even cost you less than a +3 Linos if you are not lucky with augments.
Why would a brd not have this, I don't understand. You like not having an extra 20-60 attack?
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By Odin.Godofgods 2023-12-15 18:03:23
Im guessing this showing up on my token each day isnt a good sign...
Goes back to normal after that. But still cant be good...
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-15 18:14:11
I think theres a phone based authenticator you can use?
I would definitely unlink the token before that battery dies and you're locked out. Even if you can change the battery, whats to say it doesnt reset something internally to default and you still get locked out.
By Seun 2023-12-15 18:17:03
Marsyas and Daurdabla ok, but Ghorn? I bet you could pretend having Ghorn and the large majority of people wouldn't notice that you don't.
Marsyas is useful, but not required. HM is not necessary to reach haste cap. Longer lullaby is nice, but not really necessary unless the mob requires nitro to be slept.
G horn is too valuable, especially for how cheap and easy it is to obtain. HM isn't required to cap haste, it just adds acc/atk which is why it's preferred.
Relic horn > Empy harp > Aeonic horn >>> Mythic dagger
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-15 18:23:37
Relic horn > Empy harp > Aeonic horn >>> Mythic dagger
It would be very difficult to clear high-vengeance ody NMs with -2 minutes on your songs, and would gimp yourself quite significantly on most other content as well (Sortie, Dynamis, etc.)
There's no way relic's +1 songs is more valuable than a whole *** song.
Sure honor march is "just acc and atk" but the difference between SV HMarch and SV VMarch, both of which cap haste with haste spell is 464 attack and 116 accuracy. This is not insignificant at all. Even with just Marcato, it's a significant boost to acc/atk.
My list would go like:
Daurdabla > Aeonic > Relic > Mythic
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2023-12-15 18:29:38
Im guessing this showing up on my token each day isnt a good sign...
Goes back to normal after that. But still cant be good...
Means it's about to die, I'd move to a different authenticator before it becomes a problem.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2023-12-15 18:38:56
I think theres a phone based authenticator you can use?
I would definitely unlink the token before that battery dies and you're locked out. Even if you can change the battery, whats to say it doesnt reset something internally to default and you still get locked out. Bahamut.Boposhopo said: »Means it's about to die, I'd move to a different authenticator before it becomes a problem.
any ideas on how i go about getting/switching to a different one?
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2023-12-15 18:42:21
SE has a phone app version of the same thing, you can download the app and link it using the Square Enix Account Management website
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By Bahamut.Boposhopo 2023-12-15 19:05:31
I think theres a phone based authenticator you can use?
I would definitely unlink the token before that battery dies and you're locked out. Even if you can change the battery, whats to say it doesnt reset something internally to default and you still get locked out. Bahamut.Boposhopo said: »Means it's about to die, I'd move to a different authenticator before it becomes a problem.
any ideas on how i go about getting/switching to a different one?
login to your SE account, Service and options -> one time password. Remove your token and add a software token such as google authenticator.
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By Seun 2023-12-15 19:34:55
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »There's no way relic's +1 songs is more valuable than a whole *** song.
Song +4, and you may still be correct but it depends on what your needs are. Attack and accuracy are not insignificant, but they're also not always necessary.
Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-15 19:41:38
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »There's no way relic's +1 songs is more valuable than a whole *** song.
Song +4, and you may still be correct but it depends on what your needs are. Attack and accuracy are not insignificant, but they're also not always necessary.
Linos can give songs+3, so the Gjalla is giving +1 over what you could otherwise have.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2023-12-15 19:55:40
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »SE has a phone app version of the same thing, you can download the app and link it using the Square Enix Account Management website found it in the play store. It has a massive amount of 1 stars. Is that rly a good idea? Granted.. my battery on token running out isnt good either'
Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-15 20:09:38
You can tie it to Google Authenticator.
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By Seun 2023-12-15 22:05:28
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »There's no way relic's +1 songs is more valuable than a whole *** song.
Song +4, and you may still be correct but it depends on what your needs are. Attack and accuracy are not insignificant, but they're also not always necessary.
Linos can give songs+3, so the Gjalla is giving +1 over what you could otherwise have.
I attribute higher value to G Horn in part because it's so easily obtained. Rolling max augmented Linos is bad for your wallet and your sanity.
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Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2023-12-15 22:53:53
As someone whos tried to augment Linos with something decent on other chars so my primary bard can get ML's on other jobs...I agree with the above statement.
You're likely to spend just as much on Snowdim+1/2 as you would on a Gjallarhorn, and that presumes your server has a steady stock of Snowdim+1/2. Thats not even factoring in the mind numbing time investment of there being no addon like MAGA for Divainy-Gamainy, as far as I know. You're gonna be doing all those trades and all those confirmations manually. Anyone saying "just get Linos All Songs+3 no biggie" have absolutely no idea just how rare All Songs +3 Linos are. Getting All Songs +2 is already rare enough as is. I'd go so far as to say that an All Songs +3 augment on Linos is "I got a Cats Eye during the macrocosmic orb campaign" epic ultra rare.
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By Seun 2023-12-15 23:43:49
Linos do have +1 song before augments so you'd only need +2 aug to achieve +3 total, but it's still that rare.
I've never heard of anyone getting Cat's Eye from anything but past Mog Bonanzas. I thought all the reports of them being obtained from gobbie box and campaigns were myths.
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Asura.Vyre
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By Asura.Vyre 2023-12-16 00:31:25
Does anyone know Shockwave's AOE range/target limit? Been farming Arch Dynamis Lord tonight, and regularly fighting upwards of 20~ demons, and I've been able to sleep pretty much all of them, and I've seen it sleep like five~six demons shoulder to shoulder but also behind me.
By Seun 2023-12-16 00:47:27
Does anyone know Shockwave's AOE range/target limit? Been farming Arch Dynamis Lord tonight, and regularly fighting upwards of 20~ demons, and I've been able to sleep pretty much all of them, and I've seen it sleep like five~six demons shoulder to shoulder but also behind me.
Not sure there's a limit though you could probably test in Abyssea. The AoE radiates from your target, so its essentially like horde lullaby from BRD. I'm terrible at guessing(I'd say 12ish), but if you use the menu to select the weaponskill, you'll see the range indicator prior to target confirmation.
By ruckusMonster 2023-12-16 01:22:18
Carbuncle.Maletaru said: »If you're going to spend 150m and 12 hours farming a Daurdabla, you can probably spend 30m and 3 hours farming a Ghorn.
Ok, here's my random question: I have never farmed Daurdabla parts before but I was under the impression it takes a LOT more than 12 hours to get them all, especially for a first-timer. Like 2-3x as long as that. Was I mislead or is this hyperbole?
By Seun 2023-12-16 02:16:15
Apademak KI doesn't appear in large amber chests so you're forced to farm 10-15 min respawn just to get the item to pop the mob you still need to proc for the KI. You could spend 12 hours on this step alone, even if you get a few fragments from small amber chests.
Maybe 12 hours if you run back and forth to AH buying pops to make KI.
Asura.Sechs
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By Asura.Sechs 2023-12-16 05:26:34
I'd go so far as to say that an All Songs +3 augment on Linos is "I got a Cats Eye during the macrocosmic orb campaign" epic ultra rare. Wut?
Songs+3 on Linos doesn't exist (and it would be as strong as a Gjallarhorn if it did). It was a myth some trollers invented over these boards?
Song+2 augments instead exist (total Song+3, since there's a Song+1 static bonus on Linos) and it's not particularly expensive or rare to get?
I mean sure there's the luck component but we're talking about a random aug out of 8 possible augs, that aug that has two possible values: +1 and +2, that's it. It's very good odds compared to most other alluvion augs?
That's what I was talking about.
A Linos with +2 song augs (+3 total) is a pretty decent compromise for a new BRD. Most people will never notice that you don't have Gjallarhorn.
Then, once you already started playing BRD and you're having fun and you already have Marsyas and Daurdabla, if you find out you have some excess Gil, then at that point you can go and get a Ghorn, which is pretty cheap and fast to get.
This is what I meant. As cheap as Ghorn is, it's not free.
And someone with limited resourcers starting on BRD will have to set some priorities on where to focus their limited money.
Ghorn shouldn't be the first priority imho, because Linos exists.
jm2c.
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2023-12-16 06:37:33
snowdim+1/+2 prices have come down a great deal since they first came out due to being flooded almost every month in campaigns and login rewards/pells
It's extremely easy and cheap to get +3 flutes now
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By Seun 2023-12-16 07:33:57
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »snowdim+1/+2 prices have come down a great deal since they first came out due to being flooded almost every month in campaigns and login rewards/pells
It's extremely easy and cheap to get +3 flutes now
Even if the stones are cheap, you're still standing there trading stones for a lot longer than it would take you to round up the relic items. I think I'd take the extra cost as tax for 1 more + song and avoiding carpal.
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Ragnarok.Jessikah
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By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2023-12-16 09:47:35
any ideas on how i go about getting/switching to a different one? I'd recommend Google Authenticator. I was expecting it to be a whole process, but it was honestly pretty straightforward.
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Carbuncle.Maletaru
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By Carbuncle.Maletaru 2023-12-16 11:08:53
Using Carbuncle prices, it currently costs:
99 snowdim+1 - 60k
99 snowdim+2 - 2m
Gjallarhorn - 64m
Daurdabla - 96m
Carn (AG, not R15) - 203m
Marsyas - priceless
If I were an up-and-coming BRD, I'd get Linos & Terpander, then Daurdabla, Gjalla, Carn, and take any opportunity I could to get a Marsyas.
IDK what the merc prices are like on your servers, but it might be worth getting Marsyas before Gjalla if the prices were similar.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2023-12-16 11:52:12
Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »any ideas on how i go about getting/switching to a different one? I'd recommend Google Authenticator. I was expecting it to be a whole process, but it was honestly pretty straightforward.
I've used this for a while with SE and it works great, I use it for a lot of other things and didn't want to deal with yet another (of like 5 i already have to use) 2FA app.
I'm somewhat shocked the old physical tokens still run, I figured those would've died off years ago.
What cracks me up is that FFXI had 2FA options years before my bank did.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2023-12-16 13:31:49
I'm somewhat shocked the old physical tokens still run, I figured those would've died off years ago. yea, they still work. The one i posted pic of jsut started showing that error this week. And I got that when it first came out. So its been a while.
Edit: Saw this on the SE management page. Seemed worth noting.
Quote: The Square Enix Software Token application is scheduled to be discontinued in 2024 or later. Quote: Link
Currently, three types of One-Time Passwords are available to use for Square Enix accounts: Software Authenticator Apps, Square Enix Security Tokens (Key Ring Type), and Square Enix Software Tokens. The Square Enix Software Token application for smartphones is scheduled to be discontinued after 2024.
As a preliminary first step, new registrations for Square Enix Software Tokens will close on Monday, November 20th, 2023. Implementation of the closure for new registrations will be on Monday November 20th, 2023, from 9:00 p.m. to 11:00 p.m. (PST).
After the period for new registrations has ended, you will no longer be able to select the "Software Token (smartphone application)" option when setting a One-Time Password in the Square Enix Account Management System. Please use either a Software Authenticator or Square Enix Security Token (Key Ring Type).
・How to Activate a Software Authenticator
https://sqex.to/Xafkp
・Purchase a Square Enix Security Token (Key Ring Type)
https://sqex.to/451zR
Customers who are using a Square Enix Software Token at the time new registrations are closed will be able to continue using it until the end of the service, but please consider switching to an authenticator app or Square Enix Security Token. The exact date for the end of service will be announced as soon as it is determined.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause and thank you for your understanding.
So i guess the SE app token will be gone soon. Leaving an outside software authenticator (google/Microsoft) or you can buy a new key-chain token. Which surprised me. I didnt know they still sold those.
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By Odin.Godofgods 2023-12-16 14:53:58
SO what happens if youre using a google/microsoft authenticator off your phone and you lose/break/or phone is stolen? It was mentioned earlier to change off the token before the battery dies because you need the one time password to get into the SE management site to change it... would the same hold true for the authenticator app? Or can you jsut dl it on another device with the same account and be good?
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