|
|
Random Question thread (FFXI related)
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 943
By Odin.Calipso 2012-05-31 04:37:44
Ragnarok.Jessikah said: » Popped Fanatic's Tonic, and was still taking physical damage. Do you remember which NM it was?
Also, tonic doesn't reduce damage taken by 100%. Only ~50%.
(Edit for clarification) - there's 3 drinks. Tonic which doesn't give a full 100%, Drink which gives 100%, and the powder which is 100% AoE.
Quote: Just recently, I was in Besieged. I popped Fanatic's and Fool's drinks and hit a huge group of enemies with Benthic Typhoon just for fun. Next thing I know I'm being hit by magic and melee attacks like crazy and am rendered unconscious in just a few seconds. Neither drink had ANY effect. And I checked, nothing dispelled me.
Fanatics and fools don't stack. If you use one after the other, it overwrites the first. If you're 100% sure you were still getting hit with magical spells and you used the Fool's second, then maybe somethings glitched. Not entirely sure if Beseiged gives you the gimp versions or not, but if it does that could be your answer there :p
 Carbuncle.Sambb
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 334
By Carbuncle.Sambb 2012-05-31 04:42:17
For Twash, Rudra's, read somewhere that someone talked about a 100tp bonus dagger... Also seen and heard STR Thokcha.
Can someone clarify which offhand depending on situations? This is for both DNC & THF. Thanks.
I use the fusseto tp bonus dagger and I like the results still even now. I normally use good food like hydra kofte when farming long periods in dynamis or something so the ftp boost is nice addition indeed,
plus EP mobs die so fast its just nice to be pumping out 3 > 4.5 k rudras on stuff consistently... pretty much wipes out any mob.
I know people say STR dagger is good but I have not had time to build one.... So I cant really comment on it based on experience, but I would think its pretty beastly as well.
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1,285
By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-05-31 05:08:21
You have the time to buy the AH str dagger. It's nearly the same performance wise as STR thokcha.
Carbuncle.Sambb
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 334
By Carbuncle.Sambb 2012-05-31 05:16:48
pumping all gil into aegis atm so no I dont... but I will when I am finished with it today though!!
 Ragnarok.Jessikah
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3,833
By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2012-05-31 14:11:54
If you used them both one canceled the other, they don't stack. You mean using the second one will cause neither to work? Not only does that not make sense as to how this game works (it always replaces one with the other or will have the second one not take effect if two things are incompatible), but that still doesn't explain the time I used a Fanatic's Tonic without using a Fool's Tonic and it still didn't do anything.
 Cerberus.Tikal
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4,945
By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-05-31 14:14:04
If you use Fanatic's, and then Fool's, Fool's overwrites Fanatic's. Fanatic's overwrites Fool's in the same way.
[+]
 Phoenix.Sehachan
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 13,352
By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-05-31 14:17:04
Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »You mean using the second one will cause neither to work? No.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 943
By Odin.Calipso 2012-05-31 15:01:40
Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »If you used them both one canceled the other, they don't stack. But that still doesn't explain the time I used a Fanatic's Tonic without using a Fool's Tonic and it still didn't do anything. Also, tonic doesn't reduce damage taken by 100%. Only ~50%.
(Edit for clarification) - there's 3 drinks. Fanatics Tonic which doesn't give a full 100%, Fanatics Drink which gives 100%, and Fanatics Powder which is 100% AoE.
Fanatic's Tonic doesn't work the way you think it does, I think. The description on it is misleading. Bg wiki link for it.
Ragnarok.Jessikah
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3,833
By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2012-05-31 15:03:59
Right, sorry. It said I was on the last page when I made that post so I didn't see that response. Still, I was definitely taking magic damage after I'd used the Fool's after the Fanatic's yesterday. And from previous experiences, it is 100% in Besieged.
 Asura.Fondue
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2,446
By Asura.Fondue 2012-05-31 15:41:10
Saw someone mention something about this here or on bg but I dont remember whats said, since you get embrava at lv5 how does casting it with say a 500skilled sch+perp etc on a level 5+ work?
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2,255
By Odin.Llewelyn 2012-05-31 15:46:31
Ragnarok.Jessikah said: »Right, sorry. It said I was on the last page when I made that post so I didn't see that response. Still, I was definitely taking magic damage after I'd used the Fool's after the Fanatic's yesterday. And from previous experiences, it is 100% in Besieged. Perhaps you were taking damage from magical TP abilities? I believe all Fool's Drink blocks is spells, not magical TP abilities like Groundburst. Those are still blocked by Fanatic's Drink.
Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6,862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-31 16:00:21
Fool's drink is required to block spikes at least from Gaunab, so I'm not sure you're correct on passive spikes.
Asura.Fondue
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2,446
By Asura.Fondue 2012-05-31 16:40:16
angry bomblet have any place in an outside abyssea ninja tp set?
also nin/dnc not able to utilize innin most of the time*
Fenrir.Minjo
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1,326
By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-05-31 16:43:11
Fool's drink is required to block spikes at least from Gaunab, so I'm not sure you're correct on passive spikes. Fanatics does nothing? Hmmm it would suck if se made every mob different like that
Spikes effects count as direct spell damage, IIRC, which is why Fool's will block it and Fanatic's will not.
Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6,862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-31 16:43:36
Fool's drink is required to block spikes at least from Gaunab, so I'm not sure you're correct on passive spikes. Fanatics does nothing? Hmmm it would suck if se made every mob different like that
I would always die on DNC by hitting 5 times in one attack round with fanatics up. Fools would stop the spikes, but then it would one-shot me.
I just stopped going DNC.
Pre-emptive: Shut up Minjo.
[+]
Fenrir.Minjo
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1,326
By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-05-31 16:47:51
[+]
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9,265
By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-31 17:10:34
I've fought mobs where fanatic's stopped spike dmg, that's odd.
Which? To my knowledge it is fool's cuz it's magic dmg. Like as people have said, Gaunab. To block the harsh tp moves you need fan but you'll still take spikes.
[+]
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9,265
By Odin.Eikechi 2012-05-31 17:16:33
Weird.
Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6,862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-05-31 17:29:09
I've got my eyes on you...
[+]
Asura.Fondue
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2,446
By Asura.Fondue 2012-06-01 07:36:59
angry bomblet have any place in an outside abyssea ninja tp set?
also nin/dnc not able to utilize innin most of the time* Saw someone mention something about this here or on bg but I dont remember whats said, since you get embrava at lv5 how does casting it with say a 500skilled sch+perp etc on a level 5+ work?
bumping questions
Ragnarok.Sekundes
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4,208
By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-06-01 07:58:46
Saw someone mention something about this here or on bg but I dont remember whats said, since you get embrava at lv5 how does casting it with say a 500skilled sch+perp etc on a level 5+ work? I've never tried but I would assume it gets full duration since it is a level 5 spell.
Server: Siren
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Siren.Mcclane 2012-06-01 08:47:02
Can you still get skillups from -na spells that have no effect?
Ragnarok.Jessikah
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3,833
By Ragnarok.Jessikah 2012-06-01 14:05:46
Can you still get skillups from -na spells that have no effect? No you cannot. The spell has to actually do something. You won't get any skill-ups from spells or melee attacks that deal 0 damage, either.
If you're trying to skill-up Healing Magic, might I suggest entering a Besieged and aiding in healing higher-level players or spamming cures on NPC's. (Though please do not spam cures on the players, as that would just get annoying)
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2,255
By Odin.Llewelyn 2012-06-01 14:14:59
What I did for skilling up Healing Magic was go to Abyssea - Attohwa, throw on Regen Atmas, cap Spell Interruption Rate and spam cures on the Schnitters. Besieged as mentioned above is good too, though I personally only bothered during an Undead Swarm attack and spammed Cure on any undead.
Lakshmi.Byrth
VIP
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6,259
By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-06-01 14:24:18
Apparently you can also cap healing/enhancing magic using your adventuring fellow if you have them near capped level. Just call them out and spam spells on them.
For those of you that visit Bg you already know the premise of this thread but for those that don't, it's simple.
Quote: This thread is for off-the-cuff questions that don't merit a full topic to answer. 'What should I wear for my level 65 pup?' 'What's the best way to learn the Qutrub Blu spell?'
General Guidelines.
Any questions goes be it FFXI related or not this community has a plethora of people surely one will be able to assist you.
Please don't bash people for asking questions hating someone for seeking knowledge even if you deem it a stupid thing to ask makes you look like an even bigger tool.
If your answer is on the large side either providing a link or spoilering the answer might be a good idea to help reduce the thread size.
Have fun!
|
|
