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[Dev] Outpost Teleport Menu Ordering
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By Asura.Vrytreya 2012-01-19 19:19:38
[ ] Gil
[X] Cancel
[ ] Conquest point
Why you still keeping the 2-tick option instead reduce both to 1-tick away from default. And it's easier to memorize. Keep pressing left/up will get you to the gil regardless of precision. Same stuff with conquest point.
By Cassini 2012-01-19 19:38:19
i mean, for real you guys care about this? i mean there are like 1000 things that are almost dead in the game like ballistas, hunt registry, Assaults, and there's so many ppl asking u guys to make something with them, As far as i know there has no been a simple post asking " can u move the conquest points option please im too lazy to select it where it is right now" ????
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Lakshmi.Forsell
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By Lakshmi.Forsell 2012-01-20 09:10:35
How about making it random? Including destination.
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Carbuncle.Kerokun
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By Carbuncle.Kerokun 2012-01-20 09:36:50
Quote: This is stupid. y duz se waist my moneyz
SE: Due to player feedback, we've decided to expedite endgame content and ignore things like losing items while paralyzed. Fixes are for chumps!
Bismarck.Markas
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By Bismarck.Markas 2012-01-20 10:06:48
Carbuncle.Kerokun said: »Quote: This is stupid. y duz se waist my moneyz
SE: Due to player feedback, we've decided to expedite endgame content and ignore things like losing items while paralyzed. Fixes are for chumps! ^
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-01-20 10:13:23
i mean, for real you guys care about this? i mean there are like 1000 things that are almost dead in the game like ballistas, hunt registry, Assaults, and there's so many ppl asking u guys to make something with them, As far as i know there has no been a simple post asking " can u move the conquest points option please im too lazy to select it where it is right now" ????
For what it's worth, I'd rather see them streamline menus instead of making hunt registeries or ballista valid means of anything. Menus I use all the time.
I don't like the hunts or Ballista and would be thoroughly enraged if they made anything worthwhile exclusively available from those activities.
Edit: That said, I don't like the whole "conquest points to teleport" at all. Adds an extra step I'll never use. If I do somehow get extra CP, spending it on Voiddust would be infinitely more useful.
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Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-20 10:32:47
WTF does the hunt registry even do? I've never used it. Ever.
Bismarck.Gaspee
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By Bismarck.Gaspee 2012-01-20 10:34:42
You get like evoliths or something~
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By Asura.Wyattdoc 2012-01-20 10:35:49
Well they need to make the we fixed the game quota somehow.
best part is when they will make it a emergency patch to do it :p
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By Fenrir.Dibble 2012-01-20 10:51:59
[ ] Gil
[X] Cancel
[ ] Conquest point
Why you still keeping the 2-tick option instead reduce both to 1-tick away from default. And it's easier to memorize. Keep pressing left/up will get you to the gil regardless of precision. Same stuff with conquest point. That's no good; it's possibly the most sensible solution all round so obviously 99% of people will think it's HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and hate it.
Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-01-20 10:56:05
Well they need to make the we fixed the game quota somehow. best part is when they will make it a emergency patch to do it :p
/wince
Painfully true.
Phoenix.Darkzeru
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By Phoenix.Darkzeru 2012-01-20 11:13:05
I think its like a voidwatch warp.
Where is Qufim Island and can Joachim tele me there?
Funniest shout I've seen in awhile
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-20 11:23:36
I think people need to understand that this isn't the only thing they are working on. Not to mention it won't take very long at all to change two menu options around (like 10-30 minutes tops), and for us to vote it really just takes 30 seconds of our time.
I don't think they should be ignoring people talking about the loot system, but players also already know their answer. You either like the event or you don't, and believe it or not that has been the case for every event ever created in FFXI.
You see people who absolutely hated the HNM system yet there were people who really loved it. People are comparing VW to how HNM use to be, and I personally believe that SE introduced VW for the HNM players after a year and a half of abyssea (which they all called easy mode).
Not every player is the same, and has the same opinions on things. Not every event can be suited for the mass majority of players. I do think they did wrong by adding VW as the only event after Abyssea forcing all players to do it when not everyone will enjoy it, but it really is just a filler event until they finish up with these future updates.
I absolutely agree that there needs to be a wider variety of events, and the next updates to come are what we've been waiting for. Limbus, Nyzul, Legion, Einherjar, and new VW. All coming in the next few months and will all still be very active.
I don't think SE should be ignoring player requests on the loot system, but I also don't think it should be changed to what the majority of players want. I think there needs to be a change to where you can't get the same rare/ex item in your chest and it should be going to someone who doesn't have it.
I am one who believes that the little things in stories and games are what matters most, like this menu change. They are working on other projects, but they are answering to player requests. If they change it or not depends on the vote (atm the majority of players want it changed), but the dev team isn't wasting time on this. A poll is automated, and the community reps (which aren't the dev team) are going to count the votes and send the results to the dev team and us.
Depending on the answer they either get back to work or flop the menu items around. It's nothing more than that. People hating on this and pankration need to stop being such sourpusses and just enjoy the content that is coming. If you really are hating the updates SE is bringing then why are you still paying them? Shouldn't you be playing a different game if you disagree with everything so much? I think people are complaining just to complain because they aren't getting what they want, and that is VW changed.
I challenge anyone who disagrees with me to list what is broken in this game.
Abyssea isn't broken, still has plenty of use out of it even if you are done with it.
Battlefields are broken for sure, I don't know how they can just keep making new ones while keeping old ones around. Battlefields that used beastmen seals have always been worthless aside from the few that gave good stuff. Same went for kindred seals up til the end. Crest battlefields are slightly better, including high kindred crest battlefields. SCNM is broken, ENM is broken, ISNM is broken, ANNM is broken, and Walk of Echo's is broken I think, they need to work on it a bit.
Assault is broken, but that's nice. You don't really want those getting harder to make points. They could add on top of them though I guess, but that would require new ranks.
Besieged isn't broken, I'm on siren and we still did it for years after everyone stopped as you know. It could be upgraded though to bring in new challenges, but the lag in there just got so horrible.
Campaign is broken, there are a few things they could do to fix it but I think it's time has passed. Unless they upgrade the rewards then I'm not sure why people would want to keep doing it.
Dynamis isn't broken... unless you think getting that much currency a day is broken then yea~
Einherjar is broken but is receiving an update soon.
Fields of Valor isn't broken for what it was designed for.
Garrison is broken... but come on. I love Garrison but it would be silly to bring it back now. I think I like it better staying that way, good memories that will stay that way.
Grounds of Valor isn't broken for what it's designed for and has received a lot of updates.
Limbus is broken but is receiving an update soon.
Moblin Maze Mongers isn't exactly broken, but is... idk >.>
Salvage isn't broken (and is very much at the same time, STUPID BEE), and still a very nice event to do lowman, but is going to receive an update regardless.
Sky was broken, but now is only semi-broken. With synergy it has it's use again but very little, and of course VW being there is bringing in players. Aside from that only 1-2 items are really worth it anymore (that aren't augmented) and that's a shame.
Sea is broken and needs an upgrade.
Voidwatch has its issues but provides challenging fights and the best gear in the game atm. Loot system aside it is a nice event that allows you to work with random players unlike any event in the past has done really (and I really like that). Plus it is going to continue being upgraded as updates come.
Job Classes are being upgraded, and some downgraded :p
Ballista and Brenner could use an upgrade maybe...
Crafts are hurting I think, but if you use synergy and work with others you can still do it. I think synergy did break crafting though, but I also think that the crafts were coming to their limits realistically and needed the power of other crafts to make items, so synergy was born to extend the crafting process. I personally love it.
Aside form fishing, other hobbies are hurting I think.
Fellow NPC's are receiving an upgrade.
Chocobo racing probably should be extended a bit. Raising I'm not sure if it needs it or not.
Pankration is receiving an upgrade as much as all of you hate it.
ToM's are coming to a close, and I think it should.
I personally wish that beastmen strongholds would receive an upgrade.
I think our medicine system is broken, but has been since the start. Temp items are over powered in VW because you get an unlimited supply in my opinion.
Lastly I think there are areas that we should be visiting more often. I would say the events need to be more spread around the game, and I think VW is a great one to do that. Out of all of those, is this menu change going to prevent any of that from being fixed? No it will not.
/end rant, off to do salvage and dynamis
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Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-20 11:33:27
The point is, Kali, out of all the things for which they could have conducted a poll, they chose something as silly and inconsequential as this.
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Siren.Stunx
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By Siren.Stunx 2012-01-20 11:39:01
The point is, Kali, out of all the things for which they could have conducted a poll, they chose something as silly and inconsequential as this.
pfft speak for ur self, i wish they didnt change the menu at all in the 1st place which to me became annoying, i like to hit up enter when using op, then they had to change it and fk my mojo all up.
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-20 11:40:19
The point is, Kali, out of all the things for which they could have conducted a poll, they chose something as silly and inconsequential as this.
pfft speak for ur self, i wish they didnt change the menu at all in the 1st place which to me became annoying, i like to hit up enter when using op, then they had to change it and fk my mojo all up.
l2readbeforeyouclickthings
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Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-01-20 11:41:43
What I think is stupid is that they give us polls for a bagatelle like this, but not for more important things. They can adjust all the threads of grass in Ronfaure if they feel like it, but it's like they're ignoring the disparity of importance of things. They are making adjustments to stuff, yes, but without asking/listening, instead they are so attentive about a teleport menu. Adjust it, ok, but come on...
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Siren.Stunx
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By Siren.Stunx 2012-01-20 11:42:11
i assumed it was still on topic, skipped to the end lol
i think se doing this cuz it was something they just added and want ppl to be happy with it, but of course no matter what they do, it will never be good enough for everyone and ppl will still ***.
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Bismarck.Ramyrez
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By Bismarck.Ramyrez 2012-01-20 11:42:16
Quote: Crafts are hurting I think, but if you use synergy and work with others you can still do it. I think synergy did break crafting though, but I also think that the crafts were coming to their limits realistically and needed the power of other crafts to make items, so synergy was born to extend the crafting process. I personally love it.
Synergy burns my *** because the interface is terrible. The menus are too slow and unwieldy. It has potential, but you shouldn't have to team up with other people to synth things. It's a bad minigame that needs adjustments to be anything other than frustrating to me. Crafting is something I enjoy doing at times when I don’t have anyone with whom I can adventure. Needing a partner (or more!) people to craft completely destroys this concept.
As pertains to this thread, however, I find the additional step when outpost warping is something that throws me off because I do a lot of it as a means to travel around the world, and it gets me out of my normal rhythm. I will eventually adjust, I suppose, but much like Windows asking you for the fourteenth time if “you’re really sure you want to delete that file,” I can do with less verification steps, especially when you’ve already got me into a familiar pattern.
So no: the change may not hurt other content or anything. But it does cause a slight bit of turbulence in my gameplay. And, like having a wee bit of dust in your eye, that slight turbulence can be really grating if it sticks around.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-20 11:50:25
Cerberus.Zigounette said: »This is the most Stupid things ever from SE.
There are things more important and used daily from player community to change or to POLL than a little order in a menu, from an action used by players mainly once a week, from mother nation.
1St I guess now people get use to it anyway, or don't bother anyhow.
2Nd if SE doesn't change it ( people will think they don't listen anyway )
third and last if they changed it, most will think what a waste of time and resource for something, honestly so little to change into FF11. game play.
I am just so surprise SE take this as serious, or are they trolling
us ?
SE if you want our point of view DO A REAL POLL on REAL STUFF AND REAL THINGS WE DO CARE AND USE DAILY .... I use the OP warp basically everyday, but that's because my HP is in bastok.
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Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-20 11:54:41
I get to cities with earrings (bastok/sandy) or VW warp (windy) :P
Much more efficient than OP warp!
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-20 11:57:20
Synergy is far from perfected and working as it should, but I stand by what I said. Crafting could not go any further or I think it just would be too damn powerful. How can you make more powerful gear limited to 1 craft at 100?
I think they need to introduce synths for normal crafting but i think synergy, the idea of it, was needed.
I'd talk more on it but going in for salvage lol.
Ragnarok.Sekundes
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-01-20 13:39:24
I get to cities with earrings (bastok/sandy) or VW warp (windy) :P
Much more efficient than OP warp! And earrings are limited to once per day.
The point is, Kali, out of all the things for which they could have conducted a poll, they chose something as silly and inconsequential as this.
pfft speak for ur self, i wish they didnt change the menu at all in the 1st place which to me became annoying, i like to hit up enter when using op, then they had to change it and fk my mojo all up.
l2readbeforeyouclickthings Yeah, because that really helps improve the game doesn't it? It annoys me when there are legitimate complaints about the interface and people just say "Suck it up". If SE would be half way freaking consistent with the menu system and confirmations then we wouldn't have to worry about it. Why do some menu options default to yes while other's default to no. Why do some have the confirmation be up rather than down? Why do I have to click again after saying yes just to skip past the thank you text after warping?
Why can't they just keep it all the same so we are able to easily do basic and everyday tasks without having to stop, make sure we're doing the right then and then select. This isn't about being lazy or needy. Picking the right option isn't hard, it isn't a challenge and it adds nothing to gameplay. So why don't we fix it so we can consistently rely on kinetic memory to do simple tasks and not get tangled it worthless menus.
FFXI's menus and interface is a source of much frustration...
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-20 14:36:31
The point is, Kali, out of all the things for which they could have conducted a poll, they chose something as silly and inconsequential as this. If you are saying they should be asking the player base to vote whether they like something or not, then I agree with you.
I think somethings need to be left up to them, but more often than not I have been disappointed by their actions before asking the players what they want.
Perfect example: final level cap fight
Bismarck.Rinomaru
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2012-01-20 14:51:50
I was so mad when they changed this, and I been throwing my CP away.
Now... that I am used to it they gunna switch it up and I'll end up throwing my CP away again.
SE are trolls.
Bismarck.Sylow
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-20 16:26:13
Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »I get to cities with earrings (bastok/sandy) or VW warp (windy) :P
Much more efficient than OP warp! wastes inventory. I love the idea but not going to use all those slots to hold earrings for each location
nashmau earring
norg earring
done unit
I do it, I like being able to get to any location on a whim. Of course, I only play one (inventory-intensive) job.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-01-20 16:27:00
The point is, Kali, out of all the things for which they could have conducted a poll, they chose something as silly and inconsequential as this. If you are saying they should be asking the player base to vote whether they like something or not, then I agree with you.
I think somethings need to be left up to them, but more often than not I have been disappointed by their actions before asking the players what they want.
Perfect example: final level cap fight
I'm saying that of all the things they could have polled the player base about, this seems incredibly superficial.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-20 16:28:37
When jeuno finally gets access to storage, I'll 'maybe' consider staying there (probably not).
I like bastok though. Plus I like OP warps, and not spending 1k crour to get somewhere either. Plus it stays a little bit more like it use to for me.
Very short post but figured the majority of people will be glad to hear this:
08-15-2011 04:40 PM | Camate | Community Rep |  |
| You will be glad to know that we are planning to make it possible to access your storage from all mog houses, however, it will be sometime after the upcoming version update. |
heh..
01-19-2012 12:50 PM | Camate | Community Rep |  |
| Outpost Teleport Menu Ordering
The current menu for outpost teleports displays options in the below order:
Gil
Conquest Points
Cancel
We have received some requests that it be changed to the below order:
Conquest Points
Gil
Cancel
In order to determine which order the majority of players would prefer, we setup this poll.
Please select which order your prefer by voting via the poll by 1/25 (Wed.). | |
Please vote, the link is within the post ( or just click here)! You will have to log into the site to do it I think though :( but I'm not 100% sure on that.
I personally would like to see it changed myself.
02-02-2012 07:54 PM | Camate | Community Rep |  |
| Thanks for all the votes!
The development team will be using this information to look further into this matter. As there were also other suggestions besides the two options listed on the survey they will be taking those into consideration as well.
With this said, we will be locking this thread and when any progress is made we will be sure to announce it. | |
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