Lv.99 MNK TP Set

should i stick with tantra head +2 then? or swap into Oce +1, im thinking oce +1

ok so until i pick up the actual thaumas body with nohm mitts its not as good as toci/ocel

Ok sorry, just wana make sure i get this right before i toss 7m into mitts.

Thaumas > toci/oce.
Euxine +3 and mitts > toci/oce.

best combo when impetus is down thaumas + ganesha's?


ALl that being said, my entire reason for this is, i cannot get toci's to drop to save my goddamn life. 0/102011298129819 bla blah. I'm sick of it, and have watched the majority of my server get and leave me with gimps in my shout groups.
So, until i clear this floor 100 and pick thaum.

does +3 body and Oce head +1 beat Toci's harness and Oce +1 head.

I just assumed Ganesha's because it's pretty standard gear in my opinion.

Thaumas > Toci/Oce+1
Exuine +3 w/ Ganesha's + Nomkahpa > Toci's + Oce+1
Toci's/Oce+1 > Exuine +3 if using Tantra, Melee +2, whatever.


No, it wouldn't. But if you don't actually have Toci's, just use Tantra +2 head because everything I've been going off about is irrelevant. It's the set bonus that pulls it ahead of other things.

You'd lose quite some str/att using euxi+oce+1.

Personally, I'd just stick to af3 +2, make use of the hands-slot for weapon rank or acc/att as needed, until I got the gear right.

If maths prove me wrong then that's fine but until you get Toci's at least, I'd stick to old setups for endgame. They are not bad items at all.

@Grand: Nearly same accuracy on Thaumas, way more DPS/TP gain through multi attacks and allows you to cap haste wearing Ganesha's/Melee+2 for higher tier stuff, I don't really see it as a comparison.

Ok i get it, for some reason i ignored the set bonus thinking toci's and the AH piece wouldnt match up.

So unless i get the thaumas body, which has maybe enough da/ta/qa to beat the set, stick with +2.

Honestly i'll probablyhave thaumas before toci's because i've given up lol

That being said, ganesha mask with thaumas body sounds like the best bet?

Yes.
IMO, Thau + Gan > Toci's + Oce+1 > AF3 +2 > any other random combo.

thank you very much

Hope it helped you some.

I had been having the same issue wondering about Thau body vs Toci/Oce for Impetus down. Ganesha's is going to give you 24-25 attack if you're using the bread and butter TP set atm, AF3+2 legs/feet, AF2+2 hands, Ghillie earring, Potestas, etc. After cancelling out shared stats, it comes down to:

Thaumus Coat + Ganesha = 9 attack(If ganesha provides 25 attack), 3% Quad attack, 1% haste (only topping off the miniscule, final fraction of a %)

Toci + Oce(+1) = 13 STR, 26 DEX, 11 acc. (The bonus acc/attack from the base STR/DEX are accounted and cancelled for in the comparison).

So you end up trading 1-2% crit rate, 11 acc, and the base STR for 9 attack and 3% quad. Tbh, I have been curious as to if Thaumus coat even wins impetus up due to the increased WS frequency.

Moving a bit off topic, but it seems like the order for selecting Thaumus as you beat Nyzul would be:

Vere Mnk: Body > Legs > Feet
Spharai Mnk: Body > Feet > Hands

What do you mean Impetus up? Impetus bonus on AF3+2 is applied cumulatively when it is equipped, you should be tp'ing in Thaumas or something with more DA/TA/attack rounds.

Right. I must be slowpoking pretty hard here then. I had been under the impression that impetus up, Tantra+2 over Toci's was determined to be the "way to go", even for TP phase--but its sounding like I am very misinformed in that department

Quick question if i don't yet have a Ganesha's Mask (working on it) what would be better for tp Tantra +2, Oce. headpiece +1 or Brego helm ?

The retroactive boost only works while it's on, and only gives crit. damage. Toci/Oce +1 with impetus down, Tantra+2/Ganesha's with impetus up. Melee +2 gloves on your Toci set, get rid of bruiser's earring.

The damage of a hand-to-hand weapon is added to a character's natural hand-to-hand damage. A character's natural hand-to-hand damage is calculated by multiplying hand-to-hand skill by 0.11 and then adding 3.

From wiki, for future referance so you easily can see if you break a tier yourself :3

You should still use rancor collar, the only thing it will put you in danger with is throat stab moves.

It's not.

Oops, read what you said backwards. I meant the 53 damage tier isn't worth the tradeoffs.

He meant to say, it is.

Uncapped attack, yes.

Where do we stand on Rancor Mantle + Nefarious Collar for TP over Faith/Rancor + Atheling?

We don't.