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lv.99 MNK TP set
Bismarck.Baalthus
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By Bismarck.Baalthus 2012-08-06 16:42:48
Ok I understood this. My follow-up question would be what is best filled in 2nd earring and ammo slot now? Really Potestas and Ghillie?
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2012-08-06 16:46:13
Potestas or Hagneia Stone(depends on h2h choice and wether or not Hagneia contributes to a reduced attack round). Nothing is better than Ghillie +1 atm.
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By Valefor.Savain 2012-08-06 18:57:57
In capped accuracy and attack situations Tantra Earring is better than Ghillie +1
By Peldin 2012-08-06 21:26:31
Quote: In capped accuracy and attack situations Tantra Earring is better than Ghillie +1 How do you know when your capped?
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By Sylph.Wardeniii 2012-08-07 09:22:04
Shiva.Alistrianna said: »When Berserk is up, would Tenryu Head +1 with any of the Haste augments be better to TP in over Ganesha's Mask?
Also curious as to wether or not Oneiros Ring is worth it.
Epona's is better than Oneiros Ring, so no.
The usage of these two rings is not mutually exclusive-they are both used at the same time in situations you have Regain (or at least these are the only situations I use Onieros in). So long as the mobs do not drain MP(or you swap out to Rajas when they do)--the 2% TA from this ring for things like Legion and VW is quite nice.
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By Sylph.Kliaa 2012-08-07 09:25:40
What's needed to kill the NM for Onieros Ring?
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By Sylph.Wardeniii 2012-08-07 09:26:39
(Didn't know possible augments on head) Those augments make head +1 a fantastic piece to use during Berserk up, and depending on the rest of the gear, might have a place with Berserk down.
I cannot imagine what you proposed is possibly better than Thaumas Hat/Tenryu Tekko+1 instead (assuming accuracy is capped).
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By Sylph.Wardeniii 2012-08-07 09:29:58
Quote: In capped accuracy and attack situations Tantra Earring is better than Ghillie +1 How do you know when your capped?
You can parse your accuracy-95% is the accuracy cap.
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By Valefor.Savain 2012-08-07 09:54:05
(Didn't know possible augments on head) Those augments make head +1 a fantastic piece to use during Berserk up, and depending on the rest of the gear, might have a place with Berserk down.
I cannot imagine what you proposed is possibly better than Thaumas Hat/Tenryu Tekko+1 instead (assuming accuracy is capped).
Following the thread, I didn't propose anything better than it. Pre-augments, Athos's Chapeau / AF3+2 head was better for Berserk up; the augments on Tenryu +1 pieces open several TP sets up; however, most people assume those pieces to be out of reach. My answer to his Tenryu +1 head question was specific, because I assumed he won head +1 from the contest.
The question of Tenryu Somen +1 vs. Athos's Chapeau / AF3+2 during Berserk up, Tenryu Somen with a haste augment of 5 or more would be better. G. Mask is better for Berserk down (assuming otherwise standard TP sets)
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By Shiva.Alistrianna 2012-08-07 11:27:35
I have Thaumas hat, just no tekko +1. Tbh it's been a good month since I last used MNK for much and completely forgot about Thaumas/hand combo for Zerk up.
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By Sylph.Wardeniii 2012-08-07 13:01:12
All other things aside, with all of the haste on Tenryu head/hands--it will be interesting to see what combos can be made with new gear. I can't help but think that it will be quite a while before something replaces Thaumas body/AF3+2 legs though.
By Peldin 2012-08-08 03:09:01
Quote: In capped accuracy and attack situations Tantra Earring is better than Ghillie +1 How do you know when your capped?
You can parse your accuracy-95% is the accuracy cap. Right, but how do you know when your attack is capped?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-08-08 03:54:40
Estimates, basicly.
It's hard to say when exactly you're capped on most mobs, as we don't know the exact defence values of most mobs.
But in VW it's pretty easy to reach 1.5k attack and at that point it's for the most part pretty safe to say you're capped as a MNK, as 1hand weapons only need 2x mob defence in attack to cap.
By Kooljack 2012-08-08 04:51:33
Hi!
Been looking through the thread a little. I've got a vere i;ve pretty much never used once yet.. I'm looking too just use my mnk too smash down some shinryu's. my mages gonna be whmx2+brd. Would you guys suggest a hybrid tp/dt set for shinryu or just straight dmg tp?
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-08-08 05:01:16
Until procced, might aswell just go with PDT, in my experience this thing can be really annoying to successfully proc, and can die too fast in a full DD set if unlucky.
Once procced, wait for it to dive so it never absorbs dmg then zerg it down.
With 2 WHMs and a BRD you should'nt have any issues without a brew.
By Valentine 2012-08-08 12:48:55
Can I ask how to find attack cap? this is killing me for a long time now xD I failed looking for it >.>
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-08-08 12:49:37
Twice a mob's defense.
By Valentine 2012-08-08 12:55:33
Thanks ; ;
Some people speak like they really know the exact number...
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By Cerberus.Celll 2012-08-11 03:56:55
New to this thread and this is going to be a dumb question. But would it be better to use Tantra head +2 and melee gloves +2 over a ganesha's and tantra gloves +2 for TP? (not talking situational) Just for over all in abyssea and outside.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-08-11 04:30:25
You need 25-26% listed haste in your tp set. Assuming you have that using ganesha's mask+melee gloves +2 it is probably better unless you are attack capped (you don't really need to worry about this if you are new to the thread, default to assuming you aren't for now). If you aren't getting 26% w/ that combo, I would switch to ganesha's+tantra gloves inside abyssea, and tanra head and melee gloves outside. If thats still not taking you to 26% haste, you should wear tantra head+hands.
Edit: I kind of misread your post the first time through, so thats a bit more than you asked for, sorry><.
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By Shiva.Francisco 2012-08-11 11:44:21
This is a slight spin off of the original topic, but how about some TP sets for Voidwatch, where you can (and I'm pretty sure should) use a maxed out Atmacite of the Valiant (Haste +5%).
??? | Rancor | Brutal | Ghillie+1
??? | ??? | Rajas | Epona
Atheling | Black Belt | Tantra+2 | Tantra +2
Even without the head and body pieces, that's 23% Haste, so you get a lot of options available to complete the set...
Probably the best: Thaumus Head/Body + Melee Gloves+2
Other combinations that pop to mind if you don't have Thaumus:
-Oce. Head(+1) + Toci's + Melee Gloves+2
-Ganesha's + Tantra+2 + Melee+2
Anything else worth looking at?
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-08-11 11:52:19
When i'm not attack capped I keep ganesha's/melee+2, when I am attack capped I switch to thaumas/mustela. Not specifically mathed so i'm not sure if thats ideal.
By Peldin 2012-08-11 14:41:49
I use tantra head +2 and mel gloves +2 because I'm full-timing Tantra Cyclas so I'm not at haste cap if I put on Ganesha's Mask
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By Cerberus.Balloon 2012-08-11 15:06:50
When i'm not attack capped I keep ganesha's/melee+2, when I am attack capped I switch to thaumas/mustela. Not specifically mathed so i'm not sure if thats ideal.
Assuming Haste Atmacite and Voidwatch, yeah, probably the best choice. Outside it does less
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By Bahamut.Illyst 2012-08-12 21:39:35
just to be sure, nefarious collar + rancorous mantle > rancor collar+ahteling?
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By Shiva.Francisco 2012-08-13 02:23:33
I think that's only for WS, and only if attack is capped...
Atheling and rancor collar for TP, Justiciar's and rancorous for WS... And that's assuming Victory Smite.
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By Odin.Cindro 2012-08-13 03:17:44
You can/should use Potestas Bomblet in the ammo slot if you don't need the accuracy provided from the af3 Tantra Tathlum.
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2012-08-13 03:20:46
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By Odin.Cindro 2012-08-13 03:22:40
Grrrrr. Congrats. :P I need to pay more attention to these things lol.
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By Sylph.Wardeniii 2012-08-13 11:10:15
At least 30% (or that's the most I'm willing to admit) of the reason I want tenryu somen+1 is so I can look like Super Shredder.
Hello all,
Hope you all had a Merry Christmas.
I never really bothered with the math between 90~95. At 99 is this the
optimal TP set for MNK.
Does this set bring us to MAX tier? Or is it too much? Let me know it would be appreciated.
Thankyou
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