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Drk Resolution GS / Builds
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-28 16:09:07
Ragnarok.Returner said: »Heh, I'm a little sceptical of multi hit WS's and - acc gear I guess x.x Surprised myself but even on an insanely Evasive mob Heafoc comes out ahead of Avant+1. (using the rest of his set) Hmmm, that's very odd if you are not capped on accuracy. Are you sure you put in the full stats on Avant+1? the 2% DA should come very close in offsetting the 6 str, and each 2 accuracy is 1% if you are not capped.
Meh you are right, I made the mob so evasive that it floored the hit rate at 20% for both. If you can use the Acc of avant+1 it pulls ahead. Now to figure out how much ACC you need to make a difference.
Ragnarok.Returner
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-12-28 16:12:10
xD that explains it, I was like wtf?
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-28 16:37:35
Ragnarok.Returner said: »xD that explains it, I was like wtf?
I'd definitly use Avant+1 over heafoc. On weaker mobs who cares and on higher tier mobs it will pull ahead.
Mathed it out.
If Heafoc takes your WS ACC to 93.1% or lower then Avant+1 comes out ahead.
Heafoc
Acc 93.1%
297
117.048
6.77
2611
4619
1149
241.188 dps
Avant+1
Acc 95.0%
297
117.048
6.77
2611
4618
1149
241.192 dps
Asura.Mims
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By Asura.Mims 2011-12-29 15:14:08
Playing with the spreadsheet I have Fulgurante trashing all other options even when you factor in ODD/OD2.5 from Cala/Rag....pretty depressing for us Cala owners lol. Theres been a lot of discussion of OAT Fulgurante, but how would the OA2-4 Fulgurante stack up? It seems to me that it was situationally good before (Endark build), and now with a 100% STR mod WS it would only get further ahead in the DoT department.
What say you?
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-29 18:08:52
Playing with the spreadsheet I have Fulgurante trashing all other options even when you factor in ODD/OD2.5 from Cala/Rag....pretty depressing for us Cala owners lol. Theres been a lot of discussion of OAT Fulgurante, but how would the OA2-4 Fulgurante stack up? It seems to me that it was situationally good before (Endark build), and now with a 100% STR mod WS it would only get further ahead in the DoT department. What say you?
Whats the hit spread at 99?
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-29 18:20:32
~2.0 hits/round average
By volkom 2011-12-29 19:28:36
So what's the top 3 best Gs to use for resolution?
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-29 19:29:31
in no order
TOM
Rag
Calad
By volkom 2011-12-29 19:36:23
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »in no order
TOM
Rag
Calad lol I want an order D:
Which ToM Gs? Str,tp,oat?
Lakshmi.Alryc
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By Lakshmi.Alryc 2011-12-29 19:48:12
From reading the older posts, it sounds like Kauriraris (ToM WS DMG+10%) > Ragnarok > Caladbolg
Rag is really nice for the acc, giving you more room for str options in your build. If you're fighting something where acc is an issue, I imagine Rag is gonna perform better.
Caladbolg lets you ride aftermath though.
edit: and yeah the OAT ToM sword mentioned above.
Leviathan.Phenomena
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2011-12-29 20:10:58
From reading the older posts, it sounds like Kauriraris (ToM WS DMG+10%) > Ragnarok > Caladbolg
Rag is really nice for the acc, giving you more room for str options in your build. If you're fighting something where acc is an issue, I imagine Rag is gonna perform better.
Caladbolg lets you ride aftermath though.
edit: and yeah the OAT ToM sword mentioned above.
i thought it was Jesus > OAT > rag > calad > whocares
By volkom 2011-12-29 20:37:39
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »From reading the older posts, it sounds like Kauriraris (ToM WS DMG+10%) > Ragnarok > Caladbolg
Rag is really nice for the acc, giving you more room for str options in your build. If you're fighting something where acc is an issue, I imagine Rag is gonna perform better.
Caladbolg lets you ride aftermath though.
edit: and yeah the OAT ToM sword mentioned above.
i thought it was Jesus > OAT > rag > calad > whocares I want the jesus sword
Carbuncle.Lynxblade
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By Carbuncle.Lynxblade 2011-12-29 20:47:31
Im almost finished with wsdmg 10% gsword, how good is that on ranking gswords? >_>
By leva 2011-12-29 20:51:20
By volkom 2011-12-29 22:01:28
cuz they pale in comparison to bale flanchard +2?
except maybe for the DA? but still, acc and attack ftw
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-12-29 22:16:47
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »in no order
TOM
Rag
Calad lol I want an order D:
Which ToM Gs? Str,tp,oat?
That was in order I was jk lol
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Ragnarok.Returner
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-12-29 22:23:24
Pure damage wise, whirlwind is the best at the slot. But since it is a multi hit ws, you kinda have to worry about accuracy. If you have Ragnarok, you can definitely go with Whirlwind.
By volkom 2011-12-29 22:23:58
Ragnarok.Returner said: »
Pure damage wise, whirlwind is the best at the slot. But since it is a multi hit ws, you kinda have to worry about accuracy. If you have Ragnarok, you can definitely go with Whirlwind. i would think tho they would be uber if you cap attack & acc right?
Ragnarok.Returner
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By Ragnarok.Returner 2011-12-29 23:59:43
yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack.
By volkom 2011-12-30 00:12:45
Ragnarok.Returner said: »yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack. red curry buns +1 then u don't need attack items :D
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Ragnarok.Lugat
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By Ragnarok.Lugat 2011-12-30 00:20:09
Ragnarok.Returner said: »yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack. red curry buns +1 then u don't need attack items :D not sure if troll..
also lol at noob who was saying not to wear belts and gorgets when FTP bonus is for all hits of new WSs
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-30 00:21:44
lol at noob who thinks all the new ws got that property
It's a fairly new development for weaponskills so it's understandable that some might not have known yet. In time, that will change.
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Diabolos.Raelia
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-12-30 02:45:23
Whats the hit spread at 99?
We've got a decent thread going on BG working on it (can't parse s'more because I can't get a clear Fortification this week).
There are two ways to call it, one is just 'cleaner' than the other:
In classical form, it's pretty damn close to 40/30/18/12. This comes out to 2.02 hits/round.
There's been some work on producing that spread from having a 60% chance to multihit followed by a 50/30/20 DTQ split. This arrangement explains why DA would override everything instead of being checked somewhere inbetween. It could be as high as a 65% chance on the level 99 weapons from the more recent parse followed by the same 50/30/20 split, while 60% matches some of my old lv85 and lv90 distribution parsing, which I thought was erroneous but came out to about 40/30/18/12 while I instead expected and extolled 40/30/20/10. I thought that some triples followed by singles were counted as quads by KParser.
When I get some additional parsing done I'll be able to pin down if level 99 OA2-4s got bumped to a 64% multihit rate or not.
Overall, OA2-4 Scythe is looking to be the slightly better over the GS version for Merit WS spam because of the single-round occurrence (improved in value with the 12% instead of 10%) with a 5-hit on it and the 2 hits/rd average over 4 hits to WS meaning a very clean 2 rounds to WS average and marginally lower overflow rate.
Btw: Soil Gorget and Belt work for both Resolution and Entropy if you need to obtain Gorget/Belt for either. Was worth the cruor to me to just bitchslap the Cactuar with a brew for the 100% drop, and Xzomit organs are way faster to farm than Phuabo (100% from the 'mother' Xzomit).
Ifrit.Semper
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By Ifrit.Semper 2011-12-30 03:11:05
Ragnarok.Returner said: »yep, even if not capped at attack, 3% DA is still better than 15 attack. red curry buns +1 then u don't need attack items :D not sure if troll..
also lol at noob who was saying not to wear belts and gorgets when FTP bonus is for all hits of new WSs
Being a noob... wtf is fTP and how does it work?... and will this gearset work ok?
Edit for Gearset
Diabolos.Raelia
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2011-12-30 04:19:32
You want gorget and belt because SE grew a brain and made the 0.1 fTP bump work on all hits.
So 0.75 per hit becomes 0.95 per hit with elemental gorget and belt, or about 26% more unconditional damage instead of just 6% if it were an 'old type' WS.
You're literally adding a full extra hit to Resolution and Entropy 100% of the time with Gorget and Belt, and a smidge of accuracy, I've heard +10 each, to them too (definitely better than a lot of neck pieces, and passable for waist).
By Lederic 2011-12-30 05:07:50
What do you guys think about this? Mainly for VW.
TP
Resolution
Any suggestions?
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2011-12-30 08:55:34
What do you guys think about this? Mainly for VW. TP Resolution Any suggestions?
WS looks good.
TP needs way more ACC unless you are using sushi?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-12-30 08:57:13
Should'nt the Dex from borealis help with acc issues?
Cerberus.Kvazz
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-12-30 09:04:23
Should'nt the Dex from borealis help with acc issues?
DEX+15 wont automaticly fix your acc problems >_>
Simple question... What are the top GS for resolution out of the magian trials line? I have calad for myself but I am looking for something that will help the wife out. I don't really want to do another calad (unless I really need to) and I would do a ragnarok for myself before I would waste one on her. (Fuck I am a dick!)
Also, of you that have played with it.. What do your /ws builds look like?
Some of the GS I was considering....
Fulgurante:
DMG:56 Delay 480
Dmg +48 Occ. Atk. Twice
Tenebreuse:
Dmg: 123 Delay 444
Str+11 Atk+26
Kauriraris:
/WS damage +10 or TP bonus option...
I'm not a GS drk by nature so I am asking before I really get into something I don't wanna fuck with later.
Thanks for any constructive input. ^^
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