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Phoenix.Isttahl
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By Phoenix.Isttahl 2012-08-17 14:44:39
Hey everyone, First off I wanna start off by saying I do not have neo nyzule gear or any of the arch omega gear yet. I have plans to start working on them soon. With neo nyzule being first on the list. I am trying to tweak my set for dark to get the most out of what I have. I was finally able to get an E body and just had it augmented.
This is what I'm currently looking to use to take advantage of E body.
Ragnarok (90 should be 95 tonight), pole grip, Hagneia stone
Bale Burgeonet +2/rancor collar/bale ear/brutal ear
armada hauby/bale gauntlets +2/tyrant's ring/rajas ring
atheling mantle/phasmida belt/ace's hose/ace's leggings
I have the following augments on armada store tp 6 double attack 3.
I have not gotten mala neck from hahava yet. With the set I am short of camping haste. My question would be without neo or arch omega gear what are some tweaks I can make to my tp set? Is it worth giving up bale burgeonet for the 8 percent tiara? Any info is appreciated.
If it matters I am looking to start neo soon and to make a 6 hit for ragnarok. Thank you in advance.
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Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-08-17 14:48:15
If I'm on and not doing anything Cloud, send a tell. I can gear up BST and do the fight. I also know a friend that needs it.
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By Cerberus.Cloudkiller 2012-08-17 14:51:46
If I'm on and not doing anything Cloud, send a tell. I can gear up BST and do the fight. I also know a friend that needs it.
Sweet. ^^ I may take you up on that.
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-08-17 15:08:30
Hey everyone, First off I wanna start off by saying I do not have neo nyzule gear or any of the arch omega gear yet. I have plans to start working on them soon. With neo nyzule being first on the list. I am trying to tweak my set for dark to get the most out of what I have. I was finally able to get an E body and just had it augmented.
This is what I'm currently looking to use to take advantage of E body.
Ragnarok (90 should be 95 tonight), pole grip, Hagneia stone
Bale Burgeonet +2/rancor collar/bale ear/brutal ear
armada hauby/bale gauntlets +2/tyrant's ring/rajas ring
atheling mantle/phasmida belt/ace's hose/ace's leggings
I have the following augments on armada store tp 6 double attack 3.
I have not gotten mala neck from hahava yet. With the set I am short of camping haste. My question would be without neo or arch omega gear what are some tweaks I can make to my tp set? Is it worth giving up bale burgeonet for the 8 percent tiara? Any info is appreciated.
If it matters I am looking to start neo soon and to make a 6 hit for ragnarok. Thank you in advance.
Ragnarok (90 should be 95 tonight), pole grip, Hagneia stone
Zelus/rancor collar/bale ear/brutal ear
armada hauby/bale gauntlets +2/ blitz/rajas ring
atheling mantle/phasmida belt/ homam/calc/ace's leggings
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Ragnarok (90 should be 95 tonight), pole grip, Hagneia stone
Bale Burgeonet +2/rancor collar/bale ear/brutal ear
ace's/ogier/bale gauntlets +2/tyrant's ring/rajas ring
atheling mantle/ goading/ homam/calc/ homam/ace's
Phoenix.Isttahl
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By Phoenix.Isttahl 2012-08-17 15:12:43
Quote: Ragnarok (90 should be 95 tonight), pole grip, Hagneia stone
Bale Burgeonet +2/rancor collar/bale ear/brutal ear
ace's/ogier/bale gauntlets +2/tyrant's ring/rajas ring
atheling mantle/goading/homam/calc/homam/ace's
Thank you for your reply, looks like I will be going after zelus tiara tonight and picking up a blitz ring till I finish neo. Thank you again taint.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-08-21 16:54:21
I've noticed that many VW groups I've joined have started shying away from using Misers roll and instead opt for Chaos + Fighters. So I'm wondering, what is the optimal 3rd atmacite (replacing Discipline) to pair with Coercion + Valiant. Also for Fodder content if the optimal Atmacites change between things like Qilin and Prov Watcher.
I'm mainly looking at Latitude or Depths (I don't care about the Sphere really) but I might have missed some.
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-08-21 16:56:13
I've noticed that many VW groups I've joined have started shying away from using Misers roll and instead opt for Chaos + Fighters. So I'm wondering, what is the optimal 3rd atmacite (replacing Discipline) to pair with Coercion + Valiant. Also for Fodder content if the optimal Atmacites change between things like Qilin and Prov Watcher.
I'm mainly looking at Latitude or Depths (I don't care about the Sphere really) but I might have missed some.
You got it: Latitude would be the 3rd.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-08-21 17:05:31
Quote: You got it: Latitude would be the 3rd. That makes my HP very sad, oh well at least I already have latitude near maxed.
Diabolos.Raelia
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By Diabolos.Raelia 2012-08-21 17:20:34
Coercion vs. Dark Designs?
Cerberus.Taint
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By Cerberus.Taint 2012-08-21 17:39:49
Coercion vs. Dark Designs?
Dark designs according to the spreadsheet by 2% with acc capped. Probably about the same in practice depending on how lucky you are with the regain tics.
By lghaze 2012-08-22 08:44:14
is there a definitive optimal tp/ws set for rag?
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-08-22 08:54:28
is there a definitive optimal tp/ws set for rag?
There are 34 pages before this illustrating why this question is too vague.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-08-22 12:27:34
is there a definitive optimal tp/ws set for rag? Of course there is, but to be optimal you only need one set! No need to bother with pesky macros just use this set and you will deal super much damages
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-08-22 12:40:14
Bahamut.Keeriyis
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By Bahamut.Keeriyis 2012-08-22 12:54:09
Ashman couldn't have said it better... Seriously?! Drk cant even equip the twilight belt and Sattva over Rajas..really?! And don't get me started on Perle f/t @.@
Ragnarok.Ashman
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-08-22 12:57:40
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Ragnarok.Zeig
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By Ragnarok.Zeig 2012-08-22 13:42:10
I wouldn't waste time with GS honestly. Just stick to scythe. The damage output is way better, but keep a great sword handy for procs.
Oh noes, not another Apoc V.S. Ragnarok discussion again...in a thread titled " Drk Resolution GS / Builds"..
Not sure if you're trolling :)
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By Leviathan.Jackieolivas 2012-08-22 14:03:25
Fake Person said: I wouldn't waste time with GS honestly. Just stick to scythe. The damage output is way better, but keep a great sword handy for procs.
How long were you gone? Great sword has long since caught up to scythe. In some cases, mainly those not involving Apocalypse, great sword can pull ahead. Especially Ragnarok or OAT with Resolution.
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Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-08-22 14:11:49
Leviathan.Jackieolivas said: »Fake Person said: I wouldn't waste time with GS honestly. Just stick to scythe. The damage output is way better, but keep a great sword handy for procs.
How long were you gone? Great sword has long since caught up to scythe. In some cases, mainly those not involving Apocalypse, great sword can pull ahead. Especially Ragnarok or OAT with Resolution.
Ragnarok yes OAT no.
Lakshmi.Alryc
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By Lakshmi.Alryc 2012-08-22 14:17:29
Leviathan.Jackieolivas said: »Fake Person said: I wouldn't waste time with GS honestly. Just stick to scythe. The damage output is way better, but keep a great sword handy for procs.
How long were you gone? Great sword has long since caught up to scythe. In some cases, mainly those not involving Apocalypse, great sword can pull ahead. Especially Ragnarok or OAT with Resolution.
Ragnarok yes OAT no.
OAT, yes.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-08-22 14:22:35
Some of you seem to not understand how Drk works and think that the itemset I posted may be "trolling" or not the optimal set. I will post the reasoning as to every piece so that you may be educated on how Drk works.
The Perle pieces: Perle is one of the best sets in the game, as you can see by the great amount of people that use it. It also comes from abyssea which is the event Drk excels at the most so it was basically custom tailored for Drk.
The rings: Drk is a frontline job meaning that it is meant to tank and keep hate off the mages, enmity is absolutely essential for playing Drk
The earrings: Drk is a frontline job meaning that it is meant to deal damage and not take hate as they will surely die if they do, -enmity is absolutely essential for playing Drk.
Amemet Mantle +1: Some would say that Atheling mantle belongs in this slot, but they don't realize how important STR is for raising Scourge damage
Ragnarok: This has nothing to do with Damage, Crit, Accuracy, or 2.5x procs. The Ragnarok is a staple of Drk because of Scourge. Unlike its lesser cousin, Resolution, Scourge has two mods while resolution only has one making it a weaker WS.
Homam Legs: Calmecac are ugly so Homam are the best
Twilight Belt: This is obvious I really hope you can understand by yourself why twilight belt is the best belt for Drk
Raider's Boomerang: Drk is a DD job meaning it is meant to do damage, being in melee range on mobs with debuffs like Slowga will destroy your ability to do damage. Not only are ranged weapons not affected by slow but they allow you to do damage out of range of even being hit by said slow
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2012-08-22 14:30:48
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-08-22 14:31:34
Ok, Yoda :(
Phoenix.Sehachan
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-08-22 14:32:47
Calmecac trousers look awesome. Love them cowboy pants.
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By Bahamut.Blackdeamon 2012-08-22 14:33:54
i think youre really fail @ Failaras :D
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-08-22 16:18:25
Leviathan.Jackieolivas said: »Fake Person said: I wouldn't waste time with GS honestly. Just stick to scythe. The damage output is way better, but keep a great sword handy for procs.
How long were you gone? Great sword has long since caught up to scythe. In some cases, mainly those not involving Apocalypse, great sword can pull ahead. Especially Ragnarok or OAT with Resolution.
Ragnarok yes OAT no.
OAT, yes.
well you fail.
Cerberus.Detzu
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2012-08-22 16:26:11
is there a definitive optimal tp/ws set for rag? Of course there is, but to be optimal you only need one set! No need to bother with pesky macros just use this set and you will deal super much damages
Where is your swift belt?
Phoenix.Urteil
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2012-08-22 16:27:13
Fake Person said: I wouldn't waste time with GS honestly. Just stick to scythe. The damage output is way better, but keep a great sword handy for procs.
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+14~% crit rate, coupled with far superior raw damage WS based on STR mod, when DRK has better STR/atk options than INT/atk ones?
I have INT merits and even I'm not going around toting that Apocalypse is better for pure damage over Ragnarok. Both viable on some things, sure. Both able to do respectable damage, ok. But apocalypse being better than Ragnarok at the moment for damage, no.
Apocalypse does shine very brightly in a few niche things, the Odin II fight being one of them (if you are a main DD on Odin) as you are constantly getting dispelled so the AM is a bit more valuable.
Low manning things, running off on your own during nyzul, Ballista, doing missions, soloing any-mob that won't one shot you. But when it comes to pure max buffed DEEPS they aren't even close, especially when both are pushed to their max potential.
Resolution is just too good.
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Simple question... What are the top GS for resolution out of the magian trials line? I have calad for myself but I am looking for something that will help the wife out. I don't really want to do another calad (unless I really need to) and I would do a ragnarok for myself before I would waste one on her. (Fuck I am a dick!)
Also, of you that have played with it.. What do your /ws builds look like?
Some of the GS I was considering....
Fulgurante:
DMG:56 Delay 480
Dmg +48 Occ. Atk. Twice
Tenebreuse:
Dmg: 123 Delay 444
Str+11 Atk+26
Kauriraris:
/WS damage +10 or TP bonus option...
I'm not a GS drk by nature so I am asking before I really get into something I don't wanna fuck with later.
Thanks for any constructive input. ^^
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