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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-30 21:10:40
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in VW you're going to have march generally, so you should probably build a set around that. I believe with +4 march you only need 13% haste to cap with LR up.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-30 21:24:28
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
in VW you're going to have march generally, so you should probably build a set around that. I believe with +4 march you only need 13% haste to cap with LR up.
You could do that, I've thought about it before. It isn't the safest thing to do with pugs though. Here's me attempting to do some basic math and probably failing:
17.2% from Victory March with +3, 25% Equip haste, 25% JA haste from LR. That's 67.2% Haste of 80%, can be easily attained with either: Haste spell, Advancing March, Embrava, Soul Voice, or possibly Marcato?
With Haste Spell: 67.2+15=82.2% can lose 2% Haste
With Advancing March (+3): 67.2+11=78.2% not capped
With Advancing March (+3) and Haste: 93.2% can lose 13% haste

I'm not really sure what to do in VW pugs honestly, in a LS where you can be sure of your buffs you can drop tons of haste. As far as what I do (mainly shout pug VW, Pil, Qilin, stuff like that) I can only really guarantee having Victory March. Getting mages to cast haste is like pulling teeth and I'm not sure about Brd songs because with Marcato up Marchx2 is wasted, but with Marcato down Marchx2 is great. Instructing pug bards to do one set of songs for Marcato and one set of songs for non Marcato sounds like it would probably backfire at least to me.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-30 21:26:32
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tell your pug mages to quit *** sucking. they're not level 39 anymore.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-30 21:30:24
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
tell your pug mages to quit *** sucking. they're not level 39 anymore.
I do, then I get blacklisted and the entire alliance gets mad at me.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-30 21:31:11
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I kick any mage that doesn't buff properly.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-30 21:36:14
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That and you should be getting procs enough to fulltime champion's drink. A brd that can't keep up 2 songs deserves a swift kick.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-30 21:40:12
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
That and you should be getting procs enough to fulltime champion's drink. A brd that can't keep up 2 songs deserves a swift kick.
I don't understand what Champion's Drink has to do with this. As far as the Bard thing, what I was saying was I'm still unsure whether it's worth telling the bard to Marchx2 (Possibly wasting most of Victory March when Marcato is up) or March+Min (Meaning uncapped haste without Haste spell or only 2% above cap with haste spell). I feel that trying to instruct a pug bard on changing songs during Marcato would end badly on my part.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-04-30 21:42:57
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champs gives haste.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-30 21:43:19
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Champion's drink gives haste spell, you were saying you wouldn't be able to rely on a mage to haste you. Also march x2 always, other people will be uncapped haste etc.
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By krish 2012-04-30 21:43:27
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
That and you should be getting procs enough to fulltime champion's drink.

I like getting procs fast enough to not even need melee.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-30 21:46:34
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I'm not going to lie, I never knew that. It isn't even listed anywhere in the description or on the wiki. This makes me very happy and feel very stupid.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-30 21:46:34
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Not need melee as in dusty wing spam? Pretty sure using a wing at capped haste will actually slow your ws frequency in most cases unless timed perfectly.
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By krish 2012-04-30 21:57:23
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Not need melee as in dusty wing spam?

No melee, not just no meleeing. Mage orny! Manaburn the things!
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By Sylph.Kiaru 2012-04-30 22:07:26
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Getting mages to cast haste is like pulling teeth
Yeah, it's really really really pathetic how clueless, slow, and bad 99.99% of mages are now.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-30 22:07:32
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I have returned with something very silly:

Capped haste with Valiant, Marchx2, Haste. 17% DA, 6.5% TA, 1% QA, 5% Crit, 34 Strength.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-30 22:12:02
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Angr bomblet, Armada hauberk, and ganesha's mala. I don't see why you would use Homam body over af3, porthos, or armada with DA.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-30 22:16:00
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: »
Angr bomblet, Armada hauberk, and ganesha's mala.
I mentioned Anger Bomblet and Mala in my gear posts last page, definitely would use but probably will never have. Armada is probably better, the Homam is kind of a joke, although I'm not entirely sure how good armadas STR is when you are attack capped. There is also the question of how much attack can you really drop before you have to worry about not being capped.
Edit: Homam has more TA than Porthos.
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2012-04-30 22:25:36
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I'm going to assume that the 2.5% was just due to small sample sizes, but it likely is the same amount or 3% TA. Both still seem like silly choices for the vast majority of VW despite having capped ATK on most.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-04-30 22:28:49
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I thought it was unconfirmed as to the % of TA in homam. Said to possibly be a percentage increase and not a straight increase.
from 1-2.5%. in any event if i had to choose between the two id say porthos would be better.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-04-30 22:30:22
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I agree.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-05-02 01:42:27
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So taking all this into consideration, the ideal VW TP sets using Double March (+3 in gear) and Haste would be something like this?

For most VW mobs:


For T6 Jueno, Provenance, Tav, and CoP mobs:


Anything I got wrong or should change?
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-05-02 01:48:00
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Assuming you need accuracy and don't need haste, Anguinus Belt is an improvement in the latter set.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-05-02 01:48:56
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Good catch, I didn't even think of that.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-05-02 01:51:09
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Asura.Failaras said: »
So taking all this into consideration, the ideal VW TP sets using Double March (+3 in gear) and Haste would be something like this?

For most VW mobs:


For T6 Jueno, Provenance, Tav, and CoP mobs:


Anything I got wrong or should change?
Why not:
Phorcys salade > Bale Burg. +2
Ganesha's > Bale neck
Avant Gauntlets +1 > Bale Gauntlets +2

On the second set
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-05-02 01:52:26
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Too lazy to do STP math; isn't that neglecting a potential bump in x-hit? Leaving out Tyrant's Ring, Phorcys Salade, and Ace's Leggings intuitively leads me to believe that's the case.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-05-02 02:00:58
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Let me see. Assuming at least a 40 TP return WS. At least 1 tic of regain (3TP). 12.3 TP per hit. The T6+ set has 5 hits to 100%. Add in Tyrants, Aces feet, and Phorcys Salade and you get 13.8 TP a hit. That's still a 5 hit. To make it a 4 hit you would need to use another piece like Belt or Body.
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-05-02 02:03:56
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So basically
4 hit
5 hit
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-05-02 02:08:40
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Asura.Failaras said: »
So basically
4 hit
5 hit
or this for your 4 hit
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By Asura.Failaras 2012-05-02 02:11:06
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Would Mala actually be better in an uncapped Acc/Attack scenario? But yeah that also would do the job nicely.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Generic 2012-05-02 02:15:47
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tbh you can even swap Valk in for Armada and Hagneia Stone for Fire bomblet and maintain your 4 hit.
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