Blade: Shun ~My Little Test

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Blade: Shun ~My little test
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By Ellisior 2011-12-21 20:58:19
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Hey, guys. I did a little test between Blade: Shun and Blade: Jin in The Boyahda Tree. Figured I would post my results here for anyone else who cares to see them.

I went as 99NIN/49DNC vs. level 73-77 EP-- Steelshell crabs. I did 20 of each weapon skill at ~100tp and recorded the full 5/5(Shun) and 3/3(Jin) weapon skill hits that landed.

Notable stats (job/equip):

Blade: Shun- 5/5 Merits
Katana skill- 438
Attack- 554
Accuracy- +51
Strength- 90+21 (111)
Dexterity- 91+38 (129)
Critical Hit Rate- +10% (Iga Ningi +2, 5/5 merits)
Critical Hit Damage- +17% (Iga erimaki, Kamome, Qirmiz tathlum)

Weapons used:

Agility Sekka +3- DMG:48 Delay:201 +10Agility +20Evasion
Kamome- DMG:39 Delay:180 +8Attack +8Accuracy +Cit damage

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Blade: Shun (tp: 13) | Blade: Jin (tp: 11)

1: (xp: 46) Damage: 826 | (xp: 50) Damage: 1,145
2: (xp: 50) Damage: 853 | (xp: 45) Damage: 968
3: (xp: 50) Damage: 865 | (xp: 45) Damage: 842
4: (xp: 45) Damage: 943 | (xp: 48) Damage: 915
5: (xp: 48) Damage: 876 | (xp: 50) Damage: 600
6: (xp: 50) Damage: 850 | (xp: 50) Damage: 583
7: (xp: 50) Damage: 774 | (xp: 48) Damage: 748
8: (xp: 48) Damage: 849 | (xp: 48) Damage: 751
9: (xp: 48) Damage: 854 | (xp: 42) Damage: 755
10: (xp: 48) Damage: 815 | (xp: 42) Damage: 1,078
11: (xp: 45) Damage: 952 | (xp: 45) Damage: 948
12: (xp: 45) Damage: 841 | (xp: 42) Damage: 1,077
13: (xp: 50) Damage: 961 | (xp: 50) Damage: 587
14: (xp: 48) Damage: 922 | (xp: 50) Damage: 1,149
15: (xp: 50) Damage: 803 | (xp: 50) Damage: 952
16: (xp: 50) Damage: 794 | (xp: 50) Damage: 609
17: (xp: 46) Damage: 906 | (xp: 45) Damage: 1,065
18: (xp: 48) Damage: 846 | (xp: 48) Damage: 702
19: (xp: 48) Damage: 1,011 | (xp: 48) Damage: 1,255
20: (xp: 45) Damage: 939 | (xp: 50) Damage: 798

Blade: Shun averaged; 874 damage
Blade: Jin averaged; 876 damage
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Now remember this isn't all in a row. I only wrote down the weapon skills that fully landed its normal amount of hits. I know 20 isn't to great of a number to test, but I just felt like trying out a little test and hopefully this may help anyone.

I also noticed that even though Blade: Shun is 5 hits (2 more then Blade: Jin) it was much more reliable in landing them all. Blade: Jin took a while longer to get 20 full hit weapon skills down as it would miss a hit or two pretty often. I'm not sure if it was just for a low amount of tries and some bad Blade: Jin luck, so ya.

Oh, one last thing to note also. These weapon skills were used while no tp buff abilties from the Steelshell crabs were used.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-12-21 21:42:09
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From what I've read regarding the GS weapon skill, it seems the acc boost that is normally applied to the first hit of a weapon skill is applied to all hits of the WS (for GS). Not sure if this is true for katana, and it probably doesn't matter for steelshells, but might be worth testing on something a little more evasive.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Cornmaker 2011-12-22 03:14:06
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well i'm not the great math guy but in my experience while playing around with shun i think it is more powerful than jin

i did some testings too in sky but on golems and i was able to hit numbers between 1.8k and 2.3k (no food weapons: kiko95/str 99 katana)

you can't call it a real test tho cause i left after like 45mins (diorite woohoo)...

one thing confusing me tho...i'm still not sure if STR or DEX Arisui is better...pretty sure its situational like on low def mobs str wins and high dex wins

fought 2 seiryus and pil as nin with shun...on both mobs i subbed STR ari...seiryu numbers been 2.6k(300tp, red curry bun berserk/wc) 2.4/2.3k so i was pretty happy with it
on pil i was hitting 900-1.7k with stalwarts/ber/wc...was meh but i love the tripled crits w

so this is just my experience...ppl may say i'm dumb cause i use kiko > kannagi but i love it and i don't regret it :p
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By Bismarck.Markas 2011-12-22 04:56:25
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so far ive only pumped 2/5 levels into shun and have been supremely disappointed. should i go the full 5/5 to make a difference?
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2011-12-22 04:59:19
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All of the WS are terrible unless maxed out, shun is just a jin replacement for kikoku/non kannagi users.
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By Sylph.Traxus 2011-12-22 13:50:07
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Were you using ele gorget/belt for shun? This test was pointless if not.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-12-22 18:51:11
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It was pointless regardless.

An accuracy bonus test would have to be conducted under much different conditions; if your skill is high enough to access Shun then there's no way your hitrate is below cap at 99 vs Steelshells unless you're drastically reducing your hitrate below baseline (naked) via Blind Potions or what have you.