Casual - In FFXI: 1. Any player with a job or a wife or a nagging girlfriend or a combination of two or more of the former. 2. A taxpayer.
Hardcore - in FFXI 1. Any player with minimal social or financial obligations. 2. Any player that claims outlandish scenarios on the basis that time is no object. See also: Troll.
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Phoenix.Dramatica said: » In a perfect world with unlimited pops on the AH and no VNM competition while farming all 3 zones at once for T3 pops, sure. I'm still calling BS on 75 azdaja in 3 hours with that few pop holders though. Grauberg has 2 KI, and its more like 45 Azdaja. I love how everyone is trying to build a case against me based on misinformation. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Phoenix.Dramatica said: » In a perfect world with unlimited pops on the AH and no VNM competition while farming all 3 zones at once for T3 pops, sure. I'm still calling BS on 75 azdaja in 3 hours with that few pop holders though. Grauberg has 2 KI, and its more like 45 Azdaja. I love how everyone is trying to build a case against me based on misinformation. and "like 45" isn't misinformation? and that would still be a lot of brews to kill 45 of them, that your friends are willingly donating. Phoenix.Lucasta said: » Casual - In FFXI: 1. Any player with a job or a wife or a nagging girlfriend or a combination of two or more of the former. 2. A taxpayer. Hardcore - in FFXI 1. Any player with minimal social or financial obligations. 2. Any player that claims outlandish scenarios on the basis that time is no object. See also: Troll. I'd say the people that are being irrationally contrarian in regard to something they have little to no knowledge of are more trolls than the person who's both done what's being talked about and has provable timetables to support his assertion. Keep trying though. Odin.Eikechi said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Phoenix.Dramatica said: » In a perfect world with unlimited pops on the AH and no VNM competition while farming all 3 zones at once for T3 pops, sure. I'm still calling BS on 75 azdaja in 3 hours with that few pop holders though. Grauberg has 2 KI, and its more like 45 Azdaja. I love how everyone is trying to build a case against me based on misinformation. and "like 45" isn't misinformation? Explain how its misinformed. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Keep trying though. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Phoenix.Dramatica said: » In a perfect world with unlimited pops on the AH and no VNM competition while farming all 3 zones at once for T3 pops, sure. I'm still calling BS on 75 azdaja in 3 hours with that few pop holders though. Grauberg has 2 KI, and its more like 45 Azdaja. I love how everyone is trying to build a case against me based on misinformation. and "like 45" isn't misinformation? Explain how its misinformed. well you claim all of your info is "provable" including your timetable (which you provide no SS or anything of your time stamps (like beginning and end points)), and its complete eyeballing. the term "like" is very relative, and hardly specific info. Out of all of the people claiming that Minjo's words are untrue have an Ochain as well and can say that this indeed is false?
But really can we move the butt hurt to another thread? I wanna talk about how my Ukon will still smash any of these new WS.
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Ragnarok.Crunkie said: » Out of all of the people claiming that Minjo's words are untrue have an Ochain as well and can say that this indeed is false? Fenrir.Minjo said: » This entire thread is one big straw man. Nobody has presented any counter-evidence to what I'm saying. You're all just agreeing with each other on the basis of "nuh uh". Odin.Eikechi said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Phoenix.Dramatica said: » In a perfect world with unlimited pops on the AH and no VNM competition while farming all 3 zones at once for T3 pops, sure. I'm still calling BS on 75 azdaja in 3 hours with that few pop holders though. Grauberg has 2 KI, and its more like 45 Azdaja. I love how everyone is trying to build a case against me based on misinformation. and "like 45" isn't misinformation? Explain how its misinformed. well you claim all of your info is "provable" including your timetable (which you provide no SS or anything of your time stamps (like beginning and end points)), and its complete eyeballing. the term "like" is very relative, and hardly specific info. Prove to me that a 5 minute maximum time limit to kill Ironclad Sunderer is unreasonable. Prove to me that 2-3 minutes to get new pop items is unreasonable. Prove to me that my VNM numbers/hour were inaccurate. Prove to me that I cannot kill 45, hell, 55 Azdaja in a few hours with constant cleaving and an Armageddon locked in transcendence. Phoenix.Sehachan said: » If Fenrir is like test server in regards to competition. I'm sure you did it in a week, it's the 'casually' part that seems either made up or incredibly lucky. Competition comes into play during on stage of the process. To be fair, yes, it is the longest stage by far, but with two focused players at the ready, competition is of very little consequence. Hell, at least a handful of my souls came from others' wipes. Fenrir.Minjo said: » Valefor.Omerta said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » oh wait.. by a week Minjo meant 168 hours of farming collectively guys... :P Iron plates took a few hours on the first day, colorless souls took ~6 days on a fairly consistent 2-3 hour basis, and the Azdaja trials were finished in a few hours on the last day. My group consisted of a WHM, NIN, MNK, and THF(never engaged). My NIN was mostly useless, it just seemed like a productive way to level 90-95. I call ***. Been doing Ochain 'casually' for a little while, on and off, Ironclads take a while. Souls drain you, horribly (havent seen how hard it is to upgrade since they changed the KI' and Azdaja is a ***. Ironclad takes no time at all with a good DD and the wallet to purchase pop items. Colorless Souls' drop rate on Brulo is incredibly high(eyeball ~80% double with TH6). Cleaving Grauberg for on of the two KI in the zone while Wildfire chaining Azdaja is laughable. none of u seemed to have picked this up, well every1 picked up the BS but yeah, group consisted of a nin/thf/whm/mnk and he was wildfire chaining........ when did se make armageddon useable by every1? Phoenix.Sehachan said: » Ragnarok.Crunkie said: » Out of all of the people claiming that Minjo's words are untrue have an Ochain as well and can say that this indeed is false? Quote: Oh please. Cause people can't help others get one and experience the exact same thing? I would just use my second character and do it myself. Why depend on others for you own sake and can do it in your own time "casually". Fenrir.Minjo said: » I'd say the people that are being irrationally contrarian in regard to something they have little to no knowledge of are more trolls than the person who's both done what's being talked about and has provable timetables to support his assertion. Keep trying though. What can theoretically be done does not mean it will be even if you have decent luck. And your use of casual is a far cry from the majority. Anyhow, as my personal experience goes, it would take longer. Few people have the capacity, nor the will to be able to do the things as you describe them, much less in a casual environment of 2-3 hours a day. Bismarck.Josiahkf said: » Your definition of casual farming is deceptive Dodu. Many hours every single day is not "casual" at all Well hey, if it isn't a reasonable rebuttal. I was beginning to think those didn't exist. If a few hours per day falls out of the realm of casual farming, so be it. Given the time a lot of us spend in-game, I'd definitely consider that a fairly casual approach, but mileage my vary. Valefor.Caelir said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Valefor.Omerta said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » oh wait.. by a week Minjo meant 168 hours of farming collectively guys... :P Iron plates took a few hours on the first day, colorless souls took ~6 days on a fairly consistent 2-3 hour basis, and the Azdaja trials were finished in a few hours on the last day. My group consisted of a WHM, NIN, MNK, and THF(never engaged). My NIN was mostly useless, it just seemed like a productive way to level 90-95. I call ***. Been doing Ochain 'casually' for a little while, on and off, Ironclads take a while. Souls drain you, horribly (havent seen how hard it is to upgrade since they changed the KI' and Azdaja is a ***. Ironclad takes no time at all with a good DD and the wallet to purchase pop items. Colorless Souls' drop rate on Brulo is incredibly high(eyeball ~80% double with TH6). Cleaving Grauberg for on of the two KI in the zone while Wildfire chaining Azdaja is laughable. none of u seemed to have picked this up, well every1 picked up the BS but yeah, group consisted of a nin/thf/whm/mnk and he was wildfire chaining........ when did se make armageddon useable by every1? Oh lord, you caught me. No, wait, you're just a moron. My mistake.
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That was a fun read.
On topic: That sam ws looks boss and SE needs to give pld a sheild ws :D lulz
Fenrir.Mtmoogle said: » That was a fun read. On topic: That sam ws looks boss and SE needs to give pld a sheild ws :D Charging Star, yes prz :) Maybe that ws will make me consider bringing sam out of mothballs.
They're called Tachi: Shoha, Apex Arrow, Entropy, and Exenterator.
What's Shoha mean? D: Valefor.Caelir said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Valefor.Omerta said: » Fenrir.Minjo said: » Odin.Eikechi said: » oh wait.. by a week Minjo meant 168 hours of farming collectively guys... :P Iron plates took a few hours on the first day, colorless souls took ~6 days on a fairly consistent 2-3 hour basis, and the Azdaja trials were finished in a few hours on the last day. My group consisted of a WHM, NIN, MNK, and THF(never engaged). My NIN was mostly useless, it just seemed like a productive way to level 90-95. I call ***. Been doing Ochain 'casually' for a little while, on and off, Ironclads take a while. Souls drain you, horribly (havent seen how hard it is to upgrade since they changed the KI' and Azdaja is a ***. Ironclad takes no time at all with a good DD and the wallet to purchase pop items. Colorless Souls' drop rate on Brulo is incredibly high(eyeball ~80% double with TH6). Cleaving Grauberg for on of the two KI in the zone while Wildfire chaining Azdaja is laughable. none of u seemed to have picked this up, well every1 picked up the BS but yeah, group consisted of a nin/thf/whm/mnk and he was wildfire chaining........ when did se make armageddon useable by every1? I'm REALLY hoping TBH thats these new WS's are good, it'd be nice for us DRK's to have a crit WS lol, us Sam's to! I did Caladbolg and have no intention of going down to Masa *i know it isnt hard, hell, with Minjo's math I could do one in a day!* I'd LOVE to get an Amano, but I have a real job, a nagging GF, Call Of Duty and a social life, so thats outta the question to. So please Squuenix, be nice to us :D Yeah, I'm really hoping they don't make these WS suck just in fear of making relic/mythic/empyrean people butthurt.
Hey guys? He's not lying. The only thing he wasn't clear about is that one of the characters changed to COR for Azdaja (job changing is a radical concept, I know) and a few extra characters were on hand to hold KIs for part of that specific stage.
And seriously, Ironclads take a while? If you're focusing entirely on killing them as opposed to procs, any of the Ironclads will die in less than 5 minutes with a single competent DD. I can kill the one in Uleguerand in 2-3 minutes 95% of the time with NIN + a halfassed BLM for damage output. Most of the time it doesn't even 2hr. Suck less.
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