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Annihilator RNG TP sets what and why
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-01-28 16:38:08
Skadi legs and head are best kraken club tp pieces. Body could technically outperform caban if attack is capped... but that would be difficult without the velocity shot boost from caban. I'll use it on my COR I suppose.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-01-28 16:40:26
Sigyn's Bazubands are pretty awesome as well.
By fractalvoid 2013-01-28 17:32:29
bullet cost should be expected, as stated above. you're hurting yourself and your group if you use gimp bullets.
best thing about the recycle update will be how awesome it makes an augmented scouts beret
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Carbuncle.Limlight
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By Carbuncle.Limlight 2013-02-06 09:49:18
for coro/LS
best body piece until I actually win a lot on tessera?
could you guys list 2-3 just in case.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-06 09:53:54
Carbuncle.Limlight said: »for coro/LS
best body piece until I actually win a lot on tessera?
could you guys list 2-3 just in case.
Sylvan Caban +2 when Velocity Shot is active will win for Last Stand.
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By Carbuncle.Limlight 2013-02-06 14:20:19
thanks, i've been a bow rng (laugh it's ok i still do) for a long time what's the sweet spot for anni again?
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By Sylph.Mirvana 2013-02-07 08:23:20
For most scenrarios where Anni shines brightest, the sweet spot is as far from the mob as you can still pop WS's (~20)
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2013-02-13 12:20:45
The max WS range is 23 yalms, while (iirc) the max shooting range is 24 yalms.
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By Sylph.Talon 2013-02-13 16:18:12
I have a 99 anni and I have some questions but first some context.
I have been using Generic's build for quite some time. I, however, do not have Salvage 2.0 gear which was his last update on his sets.
My first question revolves around Mekki Shakki. Anni Rng to me has always been about pumping out 300% coronach and spamming last stand. Store TP is still important and I love using /sam. I need a Rose Strap from Campaign still as well. Should I be using something besides Mekki Shakki?
2nd question: Scout's Beret +2. I have been tping with this hat and have get 26 TP per shot steady with a 31 TP shot when activation occurs. Are people still relying on AF3 +2 for TP?
3rd question: Moonshade Earring with 25 TP Bonus. How does this work? I do not want to waste my time doing WoTG if it does not add significant value.
Thank you very much.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-13 16:20:42
Why did you bump two threads? <_<
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-13 16:48:19
Anni Rng to me has always been about pumping out 300% coronach and spamming last stand. Spamming Coronach at 100% will result in less enmity and more damage overall. If enmity doesn't matter, then just spam Last Stand and don't mess with Coronach.
Should I be using something besides Mekki Shakki? For harder content, /war with Aluh Jambiya will serve you better due to the combination of Str/Berserk/Agressor/Fencer.
2nd question: Scout's Beret +2. I have been tping with this hat and have get 26 TP per shot steady with a 31 TP shot when activation occurs. Are people still relying on AF3 +2 for TP? If you are getting that much TP/shot, you can use less STP and be fine due to the frequency of Recycle proc.
3rd question: Moonshade Earring with 25 TP Bonus. How does this work? I do not want to waste my time doing WoTG if it does not add significant value. Moonshade with TP bonus is only helpful for ws's that have Damage/Crit based on TP. It would help Last Stand, but do nothing for Coronach. In the case of Last Stand, the ftp barely changes with tp, so you can use two Agi earrings for around the same increase in damage. Do you have other jobs that can make use of the TP Bonus as well?
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By Asura.Aikchan 2013-02-13 16:51:03
I have a 99 anni and I have some questions but first some context.
I have been using Generic's build for quite some time. I, however, do not have Salvage 2.0 gear which was his last update on his sets.
My first question revolves around Mekki Shakki. Anni Rng to me has always been about pumping out 300% coronach and spamming last stand. Store TP is still important and I love using /sam. I need a Rose Strap from Campaign still as well. Should I be using something besides Mekki Shakki?
2nd question: Scout's Beret +2. I have been tping with this hat and have get 26 TP per shot steady with a 31 TP shot when activation occurs. Are people still relying on AF3 +2 for TP?
3rd question: Moonshade Earring with 25 TP Bonus. How does this work? I do not want to waste my time doing WoTG if it does not add significant value.
Thank you very much.
If you have Anni 99 and cant figure out that.. well...
/war > /sam in most scenarios. Same as Coronach can out damage Last Stand if got the right buff.
Gear as you like and works for you, SE have plans to modify recycle, if they do more rng will use Scout's Beret.
Last Stand Damage increase with TP so can get an idea w/ TP Bnus.
Sylph.Talon
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By Sylph.Talon 2013-02-14 09:36:24
Thanks folks. I totally understand. The gear doesn't make the player, player makes the gear right. It is very nice to be able to knock out a coronach on every 4th shot.
I guess I am just use to being able to meditate, sekkanoki, hasso and also benefit from the additional store tp.
@Thoraeon - THF DNC BST would be the only other jobs that would use moonshade. I do not think that exenterator, evis, mercy and ruinator benefit from that earring from other builds i have seen.
@Aikchan - Thanks for the advice. I'm antiquated. Have always used /sam and changing to something is just foreign. Still use RCB's for /war or should I be using pot au feus?
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2013-02-14 10:05:03
THF DNC BST would be the only other jobs that would use moonshade. I do not think that exenterator, evis, mercy and ruinator benefit from that earring from other builds i have seen.
TP bonus moonshade is useful for way more than just those jobs. Btw it is useful for evis & ruinator out of the ones you mentioned as well as many other weaponskills for many other jobs.
Have always used /sam and changing to something is just foreign. Still use RCB's for /war or should I be using pot au feus?
Using /war is different for sure, but the benefits outweigh what /sam has to offer in a majority of what rng is used for. Definitely stick with RCB, accuracy should almost never be a problem. At the rare times it is, you'll most likely be getting accuracy buffs so its not worth switching food.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-14 10:08:40
Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »THF DNC BST would be the only other jobs that would use moonshade. I do not think that exenterator, evis, mercy and ruinator benefit from that earring from other builds i have seen.
TP bonus moonshade is useful for way more than just those jobs. Btw it is useful for evis & ruinator out of the ones you mentioned as well as many other weaponskills for many other jobs. Ruinator is Acc varies by TP which should not matter.
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By Asura.Izilder 2013-02-14 10:11:35
i used to be a big advocate of /sam - but /war just gives such a large boost to dmg breaking the next tier x hit from /sam isnt worth the dmg loss. Also you should always be ending shots in Scout's Beret +2 (afv2+2 pre cast only)
Was interested to see if any anni Rngs/War parse events like Odinv2 or Legion and tell me if single dagger rngs or mekki (and more stp gear to break next xhit tier) do better
i norm use a dagger and shield but ive never parsed.
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By Carbuncle.Pwnzone 2013-02-14 10:12:03
Whoops my bad there. In my defense, my bst is lv 1 & I will never use the job so I never had a look at the weaponskill. Maybe should of checked before assuming :x
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-14 10:22:57
Carbuncle.Pwnzone said: »Whoops my bad there. In my defense, my bst is lv 1 & I will never use the job so I never had a look at the weaponskill. Maybe should of checked before assuming :x It's fine, I actually thought it was TP modded as first as well. It is basically the one-handed version of Resolution.
(Resolution is affected by TPbonus)
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By Asura.Aikchan 2013-02-14 12:40:37
i used to be a big advocate of /sam - but /war just gives such a large boost to dmg breaking the next tier x hit from /sam isnt worth the dmg loss. Also you should always be ending shots in Scout's Beret +2 (afv2+2 pre cast only)
Was interested to see if any anni Rngs/War parse events like Odinv2 or Legion and tell me if single dagger rngs or mekki (and more stp gear to break next xhit tier) do better
i norm use a dagger and shield but ive never parsed.
I only use /SAM for quick fights, like KS99 wyrm and things like that, that NM dies in less than 3mins or so.. Sekkanoki Coronach > Last Stand = Light, easy 10-12k damage, then barrage and pray for relic proc, but @ least should do 3k, then another last stand if the mob still alive. Mostly use /sam coz sekkanoki and on downtime meditate.
iirc I have a 4 hit set for /sam, /war 5 hit w/ 2 beret procs, that I normally get.
Last parse I did was in PW, Just parsed my party, and I did 40% total damage of that party near 65k iirc 65k/350k health of PW~ 18.5% total damage on the boss.
Had bard w/ empy harp99 4x Minuet soulvoice, rbc, and 1x acc song + str song off the other bard, chaos roll, and all the buff(berserk, velocity shot.. blahblah), Coronach damage was between 5-6k and last stand doing 4.5k~
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By Sylph.Talon 2013-02-14 12:51:33
Aikchan,
I would love to see your build. Is it necessary to use Tyrant's ring with /war as well?
I looked on your site in advance of my post but did not see an item set posted for your ranger.
Thanks
By Quiznor 2013-02-14 12:52:26
Aikchan,
I would love to see your build. Is it necessary to use Tyrant's ring with /war as well?
I looked on your site in advance of my post but did not see an item set posted for your ranger.
Thanks
loltalon
carry on everyone /nod
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By Phoenix.Shiomi 2013-02-14 12:52:45
For harder content, /war with Aluh Jambiya will serve you better due to the combination of Str/Berserk/Agressor/Fencer.
Not to cut into this conversation but I maybe I missed something. Are you referring that Aggressor effects Ranged Accuracy? I'm pretty sure Aggressor does not effects Ranged Attacks. It only effects melee accuracy since they did the Job Trait Aggressive Aim. OR are you saying that you can use Aggressor to augment your accuracy with Aluh Jambiya for more TP feed? In which case I'd say that's a little crazy as well. ><;
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-14 12:54:16
Maybe he meant warcry.
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By Phoenix.Shiomi 2013-02-14 12:57:37
Maybe, just don't want people thinking they can use Agressor to augment their Ranged Accuracy.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-02-14 13:10:33
A lot of people still don't know about the aggressor change since the FFXI wiki wasn't updated for a while, if I remember correctly.
/SAM is only useful on crappy mobs where you can easily cap your attack. Then the boosts from berserk become meaningless. It's extremely rare for me to waste my gil in situations like this though, so I'm almost always /WAR if I'm shooting for TP.
It should be noted that /SAM is the best SJ for a kraken club build though.
Another option for main weapon is the carabinier's axe instead of aluh. Aluh is obviously better in terms of pure damage, but I tend to stick with the axe just in case the extra store tp puts me over 100. I always have regain of some form, so it's difficult to know exactly how much I'll need at any one time.
Never use pot on RNG. Always augment accuracy with gear if needed, though I can only think of one mob where my accuracy was not near cap, and that would be the ixion in legion.
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-02-14 13:13:39
Maybe, just don't want people thinking they can use Agressor to augment their Ranged Accuracy. A lot of people still don't know about the aggressor change since the FFXI wiki wasn't updated for a while, if I remember correctly. Oh, I had just thought Agressor helped Racc as well like Berserk. Not like it matters one way or another.
You learn something new every day.
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By Asura.Hotsoups 2013-02-14 13:20:30
Only Warriors with Aggressive Aim merits have ranged acc boost with Aggressor!
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-02-14 13:21:27
The best kind of warriors.
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By Bahamut.Fulgrim 2013-02-14 13:28:42
We saying Aluh >> Nguul? This is hypothetical of a non Anni Ranger using last stand also.
Looking to see what people are using for their annihilator tp sets for things such as Voidwatch and why.
Now as in voidwatch I think we all know how important it is to not pull hate off the tanks, so with that being said I'm currently using an enmity down build to tp in. With the coronach aftermath of -20 and the gear I use can hit cap of -50 enmity
This is my current set i'm messing around with as RNG/SAM
This set also returns 20 TP per hit.
What are other people using and why?
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