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By eclipstic 2011-09-20 01:38:55
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so after going into Valkurm after the update today, i am completely lost. the only thing i learned was there are mobs EVERYWHERE. upon entry we were given the option to enable or disable SJ and according to previous information from SE it says "Certain items required to upgrade relic and relic +1 will not drop if SJ restriction is not enabled". So, does this mean accessories WILL drop if you have SJ on? We tried looking for the flies previously used to unlock SJ only to find they didn't exist anymore. No info on wiki yet but i can confirm that we did get currency, a -1 mnk piece, and standard relic gear with SJ restricted, but no accessories presented themselves. Any information i can get would be great.
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-09-20 02:14:37
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Mob's procs change at 8 hour intervals from 0:00. Goes from Magic -> Job Ability -> WS

This only applies to nightmare mobs. Beastmen procs still correspond to their armor type.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2011-09-20 02:16:41
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with all their effort to make dynamis a more fun time, and to get people re-involved in general, in the event... seems like they made it just that much more difficult with this SJ restriction BS... I dont really understand why they would do this.. i mean, for relic and relic upgrades and accessories... its not like they drop like crazy in the first place....
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By Leviathan.Kiddos 2011-09-20 02:22:06
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SJ unlocked. Got tons of currency, Relic Armor and Relic-1 pieces, and accessories.
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By eclipstic 2011-09-20 02:23:45
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if you can get all desired gear drops w/o the SJ restriction, what is SE trying to say w/ their update statement?
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-09-20 02:26:59
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eclipstic said: »
if you can get all desired gear drops w/o the SJ restriction, what is SE trying to say w/ their update statement?

In order to upgrade relic to relic +2, you need to farm materials with SJ restricted I believe. That's the impression I got anyway (not from these update notes, but earlier when CoP dynamis revamp was announced).
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By eclipstic 2011-09-20 02:30:40
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relic +2? was that a typo or do i need to go back through the dat mine gear list? lol
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By Bismarck.Hbar 2011-09-20 02:35:57
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I have always wanted to go to Dynamis-Qufim to get the Argute Belt for SCH, but I have yet to go there :/
(or, I should say that I've been there once years ago, but the LS wasn't killing the mobs that drop that item)

If anyone from Bismarck plans a pt there, could you PM me please?
It would still be nice to have that piece. :)

Thanks

PS: I haven't even been to Dynamis since before they changed the hourglass thing :/
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By Leviathan.Kiddos 2011-09-20 02:37:36
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Leviathan.Kajii said: »
Mob's procs change at 8 hour intervals from 0:00. Goes from Magic -> Job Ability -> WS

This only applies to nightmare mobs. Beastmen procs still correspond to their armor type.

Nvm
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By Crytone 2011-09-20 02:37:50
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Another thing to note while we farmed Dyn-Bubu was that areas we thought only should drop certain accessories seemed to drop other kinds than expected (ie- got BLM belt from a Nightmare Mandragora, tons on PUP backs from everything we killed, BRD everywhere too, etc..). We also noticed that NMs dropped AF2 corresponding to their job much like Dyn-Xarc. May have been a fluke but killed 2 NMs back-to-back; a Yag NIN NM that dropped AF2 NIN feet then Yag SMN NM that dropped AF2 SMN gloves.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-09-20 06:24:05
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eclipstic said: »
relic +2? was that a typo or do i need to go back through the dat mine gear list? lol

It's not added yet, but I thought I read that the upgrade materials will be farmed in CoP dynamis while your SJ is restricted. As of right now, I guess the SJ restriction does nothing?

I could just be dreaming all of this, but that's the impression I had.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-09-20 06:27:14
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Bismarck.Helel said: »
eclipstic said: »
if you can get all desired gear drops w/o the SJ restriction, what is SE trying to say w/ their update statement?

In order to upgrade relic to relic +2, you need to farm materials with SJ restricted I believe. That's the impression I got anyway (not from these update notes, but earlier when CoP dynamis revamp was announced).
as far as i understood it when SE wrote "enhanc relic equipment" i only thought of the -1 drops.

does -1 stuff drop with subjob unlocked in any dreamland area?
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By Fenrir.Ultrajake 2011-09-20 11:53:24
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Were TE needed to get drops...?
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By Ragnarok.Zargosa 2011-09-20 12:39:08
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Yeah it does, I got 4-5 pairs of relic-1 killing nightmare crawlers as well as 3 different relic acces.
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By Fenrir.Ultrajake 2011-09-20 13:00:21
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just boxed a bubu dreamlands. no TE, unlocked sj from start, coins were far and few, but was getting relic acc, and -1 from ravens, dhamels, and efts. easy kills eventhough my char were only 90s.
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By Ragnarok.Zargosa 2011-09-20 14:04:54
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For dynamis - buburimu one of the TE is going to have a duplicate which one would be the 20 minute. Farmed this zone last night and it was a goblin, this morning was an orc.
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By eclipstic 2011-09-24 18:54:50
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ok, so TE has pretty well been established. what i'd like to know now is what drops what in the way of accessories. i've done valkurm 3 times now and after doing hippogryphs the first 2 times, i in no way believe that nightmare mobs drop every accessory like BGWiki says. so far, this is what i've compiled:

Hippogryph: BRD SMN WAR NIN
Manticore: BLM WHM
Goobbue: BLM SAM BST
Treant: WHM
Flies: DNC

this is just a list of drops that seemed very common from these. i dont' know if i was just getting super unlucky, but when you get 5 Warrior stones, 3 NIN belts, 2 BRD and 2 SMN in a single night from hippos and nothing else...i'd say that's pretty concrete. this is with TH6 THF and all TE

If anyone has gotten PLD capes in Valkurm, please do tell.
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By Ifrit.Shagg 2011-09-30 10:33:39
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from what i'm reading on other forums: SJ restriction only affects White staggers atm. thats right, white staggers. With 5/5 TEs and your subjob restricted you have a small chance to proc white instead of red (like 1-2%). if you proc white, theres a 100% chance a 100 will drop. the entire group doesn not need to have subs locked, but only ppl with subs locked will have a chance to proc white. they did plan on initialy putting a af2 +2 system in, and yes the upgrade items could only be gotten with subjobs restricted, but that was taken out of this update (I'm assuming they're putting in in some future update).

theres 4 10 min TEs with relatively static locations among the 4 EP beatsmen groups. the 5th 20 min TE can spawn among any of the VT beastmen groups. buy a map, and bring widescan =D

i don't know if its been absolutly comnfirmed, but many think that accessories are now zone specific, not mob specific. I.E. if an accessory drops in valk, any nightmare mob there can drop it now.
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By Lakshmi.Phaffi 2011-09-30 10:35:09
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eclipstic said: »

If anyone has gotten PLD capes in Valkurm, please do tell.

funguars, also got BLU there
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By Ragnarok.Crunkie 2011-09-30 10:37:48
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Ifrit.Shagg said: »
from what i'm reading on other forums: SJ restriction only affects White staggers atm. thats right, white staggers. With 5/5 TEs you have a small chance to proc white instead of red (like 1-2%). if you proc white, theres a 100% chance a 100 will drop. they did plan on initialy putting a af2 +2 system in, and yes the upgrade items could only be gotten with subjobs restricted, but that was taken out of this update (I'm assuming they're putting in in some future update).

theres 4 10 min TEs with relatively static locations among the 4 EP beatsmen groups. the 5th 20 min TE can spawn among any of the VT beastmen groups. buy a map, and bring widescan =D

i don't know if its been absolutly comnfirmed, but many think that accessories are now zone specific, not mob specific. I.E. if an accessory drops in valk, any nightmare mob there can drop it now.

Links please???
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-09-30 10:37:54
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eclipstic said: »
I in no way believe that nightmare mobs drop every accessory like BGWiki says.

Sorry, where did you see this? I listed all the specific Accessories per monster yesterday. They're all up there now both on the monster pages and the main page for each Dynamis zone.

Edit: Nevermind, he posted that almost a week ago.
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By Ifrit.Shagg 2011-09-30 10:43:30
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sorry, heres the link

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/104506-Neo-Dynamis-Changes/page60

this is the old thread from the initial dyna overhaul back in april, and its like 79 pages atm and growing. the dreamzone talk starts around page 60 (which is where the link should take you). theres even a screen shot of a white staggered funguar. several people have confirmed this. as to the accessories talk, theres a lot of conflicting theories, and its possible theres some pattern besides "any nightmare mob drops any accessory that can be dropped in that zone"

the Screen Shot of the white proced, non-nm, normal nightmare funguar white proced and then dropping a 100 is on page 73 here:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/104506-Neo-Dynamis-Changes/page73
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-09-30 10:48:36
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If you guys look here, there's a table at the bottom that tells which monsters drop which accessories. There are similar links at the bottom of the other two zones. Whether Tav mobs follow a similar pattern is still up in the air, because not many people seem to do Tav.
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By Shiva.Brunwulf 2011-09-30 11:04:10
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Lakshmi.Phaffi said: »
eclipstic said: »
If anyone has gotten PLD capes in Valkurm, please do tell.
funguars, also got BLU there

I've gotten BLU back off the flies. BST belt off the Manticores and THF back off one of them I'm assuming still from the manticores, I just noticed it in my inventory after run.
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By Bismarck.Punchus 2011-09-30 11:23:55
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Valor Cape in Valkurm I got off my first Fly kill.
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-09-30 11:34:00
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Yeah guys, it comes of Flies, Flytraps, and Funguars. Look at the link I posted. It's all worked out for every zone and every accessory. Took me over an hour to update all the crap yesterday, haha. If you see anything different, let me know of course (or change it yourself).

Valor cape drops from the listed monsters.
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-09-30 11:36:39
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Lakshmi.Byrth said: »
Yeah guys, it comes of Flies, Flytraps, and Funguars. Look at the link I posted. It's all worked out for every zone and every accessory. Took me over an hour to update all the crap yesterday, haha. If you see anything different, let me know of course (or change it yourself).

Valor cape drops from the listed monsters.
is there no variance for white !! proc chances between the higher and lower level mobs? or beastmen/nightmare monsters?
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-09-30 11:38:37
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To my knowledge, no one has tried. I was thinking about doing higher level mobs in Valkurm last night, but Valkurm mobs suck and the run was going shittily anyway so I didn't want to HQ the shittiness. >;/
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-09-30 11:41:19
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also dont mobs deagro in the normal dyna zones? couldnt deagro ***yesterday in bubu lol flee away from some orcs and 5 minutes later the same one would find me
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2011-09-30 11:42:28
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Nightmare monsters deagro for sure (sometimes an issue when pulling), but I don't think beastmen in Dynamis ever deagro.

Flytraps, in particular, seem to deagro really really quickly.
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