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Aegis Speculation
Lakshmi.Konvict
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2011-09-17 15:25:01
Just curious to what people think Aegis 95 will have since the update is in 2 days. -95% MDT, Higher block rate, Increases Shield Bash 5, etc. Discuss!
Bismarck.Axilla
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By Bismarck.Axilla 2011-09-17 15:27:56
I speculate that WHM will be able to equipt it.
Lakshmi.Konvict
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2011-09-17 15:29:01
First post not on topic like usual. Stay on topic please.
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By Nevill 2011-09-17 15:29:35
On topic, just ridiculous, lol.
Jokes are fun. Why is everyone so serious today?
Alexander.Meeeeeep
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By Alexander.Meeeeeep 2011-09-17 15:31:32
First post not on topic like usual. Stay on topic please.
By Pilsi 2011-09-17 15:31:52
Aegis Rare Exclusive
Shield
DEF:40
Augments "Shield Bash" V
Magic damage taken -45%
Shield size 5
Lv95 PLD
By Nevill 2011-09-17 15:32:38
Aegis Rare Exclusive
Shield
DEF:40
Augments "Shield Bash" V
Magic damage taken -45%
Shield size 5
Lv95 PLD
Pshhh.... who needs shell!
Phoenix.Fredjan
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-09-17 15:33:13
Aegis Rare Exclusive
Shield
DEF:40
Augments "Shield Bash" V
Magic damage taken -45%
Shield size 5
Lv95 PLD That's more like it.
Fenrir.Gradd
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-09-17 15:33:24
Aegis Rare Exclusive
Shield
DEF:40
Augments "Shield Bash" V
Magic damage taken -45%
Shield size 5
Lv95 PLD
Been in the .Dats for a while now.
Source: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/106679-Test-Server-Findings
Edit: Beaten too it :|
Lakshmi.Konvict
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2011-09-17 15:35:00
@ Gradd or whoever, do you think they will raise the block rate? And lol @95% MDT, wonder if 99 version will have -100% mdt..broken
By BorealisV2 2011-09-17 15:35:05
By Nevill 2011-09-17 15:35:43
@ Gradd or whoever, do you think they will raise the block rate? And lol @95% MDT, wonder if 99 version will have -100% mdt..broken
45%
Lakshmi.Konvict
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By Lakshmi.Konvict 2011-09-17 15:37:11
The other 50% is the normal magic cap >_>. The 45% is independent of the MDT on Aegis.
By Nevill 2011-09-17 15:38:09
The other 50% is the normal magic cap >_>. The 45% is independent of the MDT on Aegis.
I didn't think even with aegis you could go over the 50% cap. My bad, that is broken.
Edit: Note my lvl 1 pld, lol.
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By Quiznor 2011-09-17 15:38:09
I see it staying at 90%,just easier to hit 90%.Same way aegis was when the cap was 50% but we were still level 90.Dont think they'll raise the block rate because they have already said they want Aegis to be for magical and Ochain to be for physical.Unless maybe they ungimp the shield skill requirement only so that it blocks up to 65% of the time,like aegis can do (mob/skill/gear dependant of course) but to bring it up to Ochain levels of blocking is just silly
Fenrir.Gradd
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-09-17 15:39:59
@ Gradd or whoever, do you think they will raise the block rate? And lol @95% MDT, wonder if 99 version will have -100% mdt..broken
Would be cool but, doubtful. If you want higher block rate build an Ochain could honestly finish souls in a week if you really push it, for Tier 4 VW Aegis is superior to Ochain already anyways, the ability to take -90% magical damage is already pretty godly.
SE said they wanted to keep Ochain (High Block Rate)/ Aegis (No Magic Damage Taken) as their own things.
By Quiznor 2011-09-17 15:40:10
The other 50% is the normal magic cap >_>. The 45% is independent of the MDT on Aegis.
I didn't think even with aegis you could go over the 50% cap. My bad, that is broken.
Edit: Note my lvl 1 pld, lol.
Was added recently,when the first several Ochains were finished the Aegis community was in uproar so SE did something.That something being letting you break the 50% MDT cap if you had aegis equipped.Same way they let you break the 50% PDT cap with burtgang equipped now too.
By Nevill 2011-09-17 15:43:08
Nice. Now, I wish Paladins would become used a little more.
Fenrir.Gradd
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-09-17 15:44:54
Nice. Now, I wish Paladins would become used a little more.
They are in Voidwatch, and that seems to be the direction the game is going, all the new content coming this update is Voidwatch related as well.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-09-17 16:11:02
Has anyone tested if its a direct +40% mdt to cap and not +40% after the cap because theres a difference.
With one, you would have 90%-mdt, with the other you would have 50%mdt and then have a 40% reduction of the next 50% which in turn would grant you a total of 70% mdt. I think Neo stated it might cap at 87.6% or somewhere around those lines.
Either way im thinking of swapping currency around from my apoc and just doing Aegis. If I do VW im generally on pld anyhow.
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-09-17 16:20:11
Not sure about 95, but 99 Aegis/Ochain is prob gonna have an absorb trait.
that would be pretty cool!
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By Lakshmi.Emanuelle 2011-09-17 16:21:06
Aegis Rare Exclusive
Shield
DEF:40
Augments "Shield Bash" V
Magic damage taken -45%
Shield size 5
Get Ochain 90+
"Bandwagon Shield XXIVDD"
Lv95 PLD
By Quiznor 2011-09-17 16:23:35
Has anyone tested if its a direct +40% mdt to cap and not +40% after the cap because theres a difference.
With one, you would have 90%-mdt, with the other you would have 50%mdt and then have a 40% reduction of the next 50% which in turn would grant you a total of 70% mdt. I think Neo stated it might cap at 87.6% or somewhere around those lines.
Either way im thinking of swapping currency around from my apoc and just doing Aegis. If I do VW im generally on pld anyhow.
Not 100% sure if this is will answer what you're asking,but I'll give you an example.
From what I've read in threads it works like this.As long as you have Aegis equipped,how you make up the % doesnt matter.Aegis simply acts as the "50% cap remover" (and obviously some more % MDT)
I read tests somewhere that said even with level 75 Aegis (25% MDT) and shell 5,you can still hit 90% if you make up the gear elsewhere.Now,I dont know how much % you could get on other gear elsewhere,but the principle is still the same.
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By Asura.Jaybezz 2011-09-17 16:30:08
160m* MDT macro item YO! F the TP loss! derp derp
*depending on server! lol
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By Fairy.Ghaleon 2011-09-17 16:31:43
Has anyone tested if its a direct +40% mdt to cap and not +40% after the cap because theres a difference.
With one, you would have 90%-mdt, with the other you would have 50%mdt and then have a 40% reduction of the next 50% which in turn would grant you a total of 70% mdt. I think Neo stated it might cap at 87.6% or somewhere around those lines.
Either way im thinking of swapping currency around from my apoc and just doing Aegis. If I do VW im generally on pld anyhow.
Not 100% sure if this is will answer what you're asking,but I'll give you an example.
From what I've read in threads it works like this.As long as you have Aegis equipped,how you make up the % doesnt matter.Aegis simply acts as the "50% cap remover" (and obviously some more % MDT)
I read tests somewhere that said even with level 75 Aegis (25% MDT) and shell 5,you can still hit 90% if you make up the gear elsewhere.Now,I dont know how much % you could get on other gear elsewhere,but the principle is still the same.
i was under the impression that the cap w/ aegis was 87.5 as well.
reguardless its still a pretty nice boost, and it gives aegis owners a reason to still wear it, instead of feeling like they wasted 150m+.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-09-17 16:35:15
Not 100% sure if this is will answer what you're asking,but I'll give you an example.
His question was, if Aegis works like DMG*.10 at 90%, or DMG*MDT*Aegis. I'll get around to test this when I'm free.
Quote: I read tests somewhere that said even with level 75 Aegis (25% MDT) and shell 5,you can still hit 90% if you make up the gear elsewhere.Now,I dont know how much % you could get on other gear elsewhere,but the principle is still the same.
I find that hard to believe, and haven't seen any strange low numbers than those expected with Aegis 80.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-09-17 16:42:44
and it gives aegis owners a reason to still wear it, instead of feeling like they wasted 150m+. Well that all depends on the route of difficulty SE brings us. How powerful are the nukes/moves going to be from up coming mobs, is having aegis over Ochain on mobs that nuke even warranting the 150M, vs getting a different relic or excalibur/burtang which may pull ahead of almace at 99.
Honestly Ive never been killed on pld on a TP move, its generally always been the following melee/DA thats been my demise because a mage was too slow to react, which pushes me more toward the Ochain field. Although I can see it another angle had I taken minimal damage from a tp move, I wouldnt have to worry about taking a few non-blocked melee hits so thats points for the aegis field aswell.
Maybe theyll give us more PW/AV stat mobs in the game again...
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-09-17 16:46:36
Be cool, get both shields Hito
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-09-17 16:51:57
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: »Be cool, get both shields Hito Yeah Ill be in the process of doing that, atm Im getting 1-2 ochains for other members(my shell hates colorless souls....T2 change to T3 is the most difficulty this game has to offer. . .and it delivers..).
In that meantime, Im finishing up my almace trials and going to finish that in 2 nights probably.
Just curious to what people think Aegis 95 will have since the update is in 2 days. -95% MDT, Higher block rate, Increases Shield Bash 5, etc. Discuss!
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