SMN Melee Builds!

Anyone have any decent SMN melee builds already made? I wanna melee some fodder mobs! I've been derping around on SMN just for fun while I redo all my assaults ^0^

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:D, looking good lol. Would carbuncle's pole be worth it at all with the TP bonus and added light effect? I was thinking for Spirit taker since you sacrifice a lot of -perp because I would like to have my avatar out as well, possibly w/o avatar favor also.

Carbuncle's Pole with the add. effect triggering would be best, yeah, but there's an annoying amount of variables to consider. You'd also optimally be /SAM, which means Garuda's haste would be highly beneficial, which means a lot of summoning and JA delay, which also means a lot of MP consumption, which leads to the need to Siphon.

And that's just total melee output, never mind avatars' output skewing things entirely.

Use whatever's available to you, I'd say. :s

Yeah, I just wanna mess around w/it lol. Also for haste hands:

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Platinum_Bangles

Those are +3 haste assuming the augment is correct, from ANNM, I think those are still uncapped.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Dance_Shoes

Those are also ANNM and give +2 haste.

does full gear dd will be better then some perpetuation cost on gear and some dd gear? i was always wondering what would be the best ?

It would depend on which avatar you are using, you can pretty much keep Carbuncle out in full melee gear if you are using spirit taker.

so that only work for carbuncle because other avar you better have 1 or 2 gear that remove the most perp to be with an avatar that suck too much mp

You could probably get away with using fenrir with a melee build too, depending on what gear you use.

For haste legs you could get Haste +3 on ASA legs.

For feet I recommend these http://www.ffxiah.com/item/11459/savateurs-gaiters

Mostly for Nirvana trials but I've been using this

Looking to get Ninurta's Sash as an upgrade. Also when the the perp- on the staff upgrades I plan to swap out the Evoker's Ring and Caller's Pigaches +2 for Rajas and Savateurs Gaiters.

Is there anything I'm missing? target mobs will be EP trial grinds and eventually VW if I'm ever smn because I'm a 'phos' like that.

Paulu why you no tell me you got Nirvana?!

Congratz!

:x Sorry for derailing.

Avatar's favor set, mainly used with Ifrit.
Inferno howl for 45~ damage enfire, Crimson howl for warcry, and double attack favor. Can cap perp cost with firestorm using this set.

Given absolutely no acknowledgement to Avatars, The Set I come up with is...



And for Shattersoul



Now, The Moepapa Stone Is probably better in the Waist slot. But the Melee set I made caps out your Melee Haste (26%). Avatars are pretty strong, So its not always prudent to discount them. But with the above set, I can keep Ifrit/Favor out and Maintain my MP with a Spirit Taker every couple WS, Since Spirit taker shares the same WS set as Shattersoul and can hit pretty hard.

I have a separate set for avatar's favor for the 512 skill tier but the moepapa stone is a great idea. Also my set was for Nirvana so the -8 perp on the finished version will be -8, -2 adhara gages, 1 auto-refresh, and -4 from favor. If I were to use favor while in tp set that leaves me at +1 from auto-refresh II.

Hey Spath guess what? I got a Nirvana. Now I told you ^_^

Cool stuff Karb. I was gonna save the Shattersoul questions for after my trials but they were indeed on the way lol. Shedir Manteel is also a good idea! Thanks for the input.

Far from ideal but this is what I use outside abyssea. My usual staff is Light Avatar -Perp Magian Staff.
I have a moepapa stone that I also use, but I like windbuffet on occasion for the entertaining triple/quad procs to break the monotony of a vanilla haste build that only has 2-4% DA.

As for doing trials or just SMN melee in general, I prefer carby w/ favor. I can heavily cut back on perp gear slots without much loss of damage, great sustainability against linking trashmobs due to passive regen, and Healing Ruby II+Soothing Ruby handles curing of avatar/smn+status removal so I can endlessly kill stuff and dont always have to use TP on spirit taker to keep MP up.

This choice also avoids the need to resummon when fighting mobs in magic aggro areas *Sky/Ro'Maeve for instance*. Oh and /DNC + Aspir Samba is really nice when you end up fighting crab/beetle/worm/arcana/etc for trials.

Other random pieces I use on smn are Paguroidea Ring/Wiglen Gorget/sheltered ring for extra regen sometimes while meleeing.

Alot of the focus on using regen gear +carby favor centers around me targeting stuff that does AoE tp moves (dancing weapons) so i'm taking damage/getting status effects on me as well regularly.

When i Solo, I do generally toss up Avatar's Favor, Pop on the Carby Mitts, and Run around with the little furball.

Especially on weaker things, Like Soloing GoV pages or what have you.

Though, i tend to favor my damage over ever focusing on my Pets when I'm actually doing the whole Melee thing, Because my Damage will always be better. Which isn't really surprising. In the last 24 Levels, I've gained the ability to cap gear haste, and get 50$ Haste alone (Hastega, Hasso, Gear)... I've gained Shattersoul, an absolutely brilliant Staff WS, better TP Gear in general... Staves with considerable more DPS, While our avatars gained... what?

a Few Buff Bloodpacts... very low damage increases... same general BP Damage with +1 MAB Gear here and there. The only real improvements we've seen are through the "Incr. BP Damage" gear, and some occasional Relic +2.

So while our Avatars have gained some power, When i do decide to solo and bust out my Melee set, I give no sh*ts to our pet, Since its gained considerably less power over the last 24 levels, than i have. So its generally Carby + Me. Or Ifrit, I love Ifrit.

Plus, I generally just macro in the BP Dmg+ Gear when needed :P

That and I have an unnatural hatred for Hybrid Sets. Why do two things halfassed when you can do one thing right.

For an N-SMN melee set while not letting your Avatar down: (Spinel Earring augmented with Store TP+1)

N-SMN Shattersoul:

N-SMN GoB:

N-SMN Spirit Taker - Moonshade Earring if TP Bonus on it

Also interesting:
N-SMN Casting Interruption Down [melee] Grants immunity to interruption of spells by physical attacks without the use of merits


Sets might be outdated by now though.

Just leaving my input on the Gardland of Bliss WS set for Nirvana:
I've been playing around with this for a while, and sadly I can say it's not worth it at all.

Mainly tested on a variety of limbus mobs and the results were underwhelming: 500-700 dmg usually (regardless of TP), and just over 1k on magic weak mobs.

At which level is your Nirvana?
Looking at your Set you heavily focused on MAB disregarding the mods.
If you have Nares Set it offers a good combination of modifiers (inclusive set bonus) as well as the MAB stat beating some of your choices (can compare to the GoB set I posted earlier).

Also it is SMN, you can have fun with it, play around a lot adjusting your gear nowdays and reach decent results but one should not expect too much.

It's 99, and no I don't have nares, hence why I'm using what I've listed lol. Wiki says MAB is direct 1% dmg for 1 MAB. So it should beat modifiers.

Since i got Hvergelmir im having so much fun as smn melee, this is what i use for tp now:


Hvergelmir has great ws, Myrkr with 300 tp gives me 1500 mp in abyssea, 1k+ outside. Only bad about Myrkr is that you dont do dmg with it. With 25% haste is hard to get 300tp before aftermath goes off. I dont know if i should get Shattersoul to increase my dmg since its hard to get 300 tp to keep aftermath up.

Get Shattersoul, use that mainly for dmg, and use Myrkr when you need MP :)