Account Leveling

You've all seen it.. mass account leveling the 7 starting gear accounts standing around a node leveling up.

Question is should we care, and if we do how do we stop it?

Perhaps reporting the accounts to SE then SE can flag them and take action against the accounts if they ever change server or billing info? Maybe ask the new owner details about the account?

I'm not sure exactly how I feel about it, just putting the topic up.

Who cares? It's not like it's ruining whatever you're doing right?

I really don't mind RMT all that much, but maybe it's just the way they are doing it that bugs me. Dunno, seems like cheating to me.

Everyone has the option to make as many accounts as they want. If you have 7 computers or a computer than can handle 7 boxing characters, then how in anyway is that cheating? Their underlying purpose (selling accounts or selling gil) is obviously against the TOS, but lol this is FFXIV and it isn't going to affect you one way or the other.

I'm not concerned with me, I'd be concerned with the overall game play experience. SE is too, that's why it's against TOS. I like this game I wana see it do well.

I guess I do have a problem with it, but mostly it's not that people are leveling 7 accounts.. you wana level 7 accounts and sell them fine by me. The trouble I have is leveling 7 *at the same time*.

Not real worried about it tho.. I thought about this for 3 weeks before I posted this. lol

It cost a lot of money to run 7 computers, i know 2 raise my electric bill like 250 a month! I wouldn't worry about such things RMT will always be around economy's but i don't see much incentive for them in our world.

but it's not against the TOS to own 7 accounts at the same time....in ANY MMO.

I think what he is getting at is the likely fact that they are RMT accounts when each character is Named "Ajbdfb Hbnd" and they all WILL be used to farm gil and blitz the already failing economy or manipulate prices and that affects us all.

Theres nothing wrong with leveling multiple accounts at same time, and we are all in agreement with that. But should we care about suspiciously named characters AFK blitzing levels to get ready to farm gil? Yes.

This is what he has a problem with. He already stated his RMT displeasure but that's not the topic of his post.

Wasn't the topic "name" I suppose but thats where I assumed he was concerned with them being RMT. Being as they would be sold.

he is essentially raging about multiboxing and thinks it's cheating.

Calemero your so far off you don't even know. Thanks for telling everyone how I feel.. lol Good Job! Now may I point you to this post I made in 2009.

If I'm out crying about RMT as you say "stated his RMT displeasure" .. then why am I defending it 2009?

Don't jump to conclusions man. This is more about bad game mechanics and people exploiting it than it has to do with RMT.

is this a wrong assessment or not?

No, multiboxing isn't cheating. Buying accounts is cheating.

Apparent distaste about HOW the accounts are leveled up and no real concern for the RMT aspect of it.


Apparent distaste about the RMT side of the game and now changing your stance on HOW the accounts are leveled up.


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You sir flip flop more than 2004 John Kerry. I find your lack of a true stance more amusing than anything at this point lul

I've been consistent for years on this. Buying accounts is cheating. If your playing a game and you use an unfair advantage over others it's cheating, right? You just realize you tried to call me out for something I didn't say and now your backpedaling. Fine man, you got the wrong idea about what I was saying and made an assumption.. it happens. I don't want to argue with you, you got your opinion.

With cheaters the onerous falls on them and it's a personal thing between you and them.. it's probably why people don't advertise the fact that they buy gil because it makes them look bad to others.

..but whatever, cheaters will be cheaters, they know they do it and it will cheapen their own game experience.. I'd *rather* however see SE fix the accounting or the game mechanics so that cheating is harder to do. The reason why is so you can't buy a pre-leveled account for less than the price of the game disk. Don't you agree that would be good?

RMT will always be around so just get over it.

SE is allowing people to powerlevel by a level 50 kill mobs for you without being in the party and you get full EXP. I don't think they care about people using 10-50 account at the sametime. Which really does suck .

If people want to buy accounts of high level characters that have most things completed that is their loss.

Really the experience about the game is leveling up and completing storyline. (excluding crafting of course, because its boring)

10~50 accounts at the same time huh?

50(accounts)*$15.99(sub fee)=$800.00/month whenever sub fee's are added back into the game. Goodluck finding the non-RMT player who actually does that. If RMT do it now good for them. I can almost guarantee you no one is going to actually buy an account from them for this game and the state it's currently in.

I find it amusing that a lot of people only equate multiboxing with RMT.

There it is.

They do it now to sell the accounts later.

I really noticed lately alot of people seem apathetic to RMT activities like buying gil or accounts, and botting. Its disturbing to me that players have come to accept it as a norm in the MMO experience and almost seem to defend it with a "its not hurting you, don't worry about it" attitude.

I really differ on that opinion but I really digress from the topic so I'll end there. Just wanted to put my remaining 2 cents in.

(Not calling anyone out in this thread just wanted to say I am really against the what seems like new attitude towards against ToS activities.)

I used to care waaaaaaaay back in 04/05 in 11 but I don't care anymore because we can't do anything except report them and that rarely does anything. I'd rather just let SE deal with it and not give a crap. Buying gil is hardly necessary and leveling is pretty fast these days anyway.

This is actually not true. Several games have clauses in the TOS or UELA that prohibit ownership of more than one account. I believe this was true in WoW and FFXI.. (It may even be true for XIV, I'm just too lazy to check.)

The thing is, no game company is going to enforce this. That's like refusing free money! The rule is just in there so people can point fingers at multi-boxers and call them cheaters.
At the same time, it doesn't pressure people into playing more than one character in order to be 'elite'. Which would just serve to drive a larger wedge between casual and hardcore. (Since all hardcore players would do it more often, due to no real rule-breaking.)

Hate to burst bubbles, but the strat of having 7 r1 characters in gimp gear isn't always RMT. It's called shard farming and if you're a crafter its a great idea. One kill = 20 to 40 shards. Now you do the math:

1 kill per every 10 seconds @ 30 shards per kill over 3 hours.

K, hope that makes sense.

So.. your just gonna throw those characters away when your done? I mean are you saying it's even more exploitable to RMT?

Fix this SE.

No, I'm saying that just because somebody is doing that does not make them RMT.

And why wouldn't you just delete them then do it again? I think the point was overlooked.