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Some Friendly advice please!
Fenrir.Niniann
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-08-22 17:33:38
I can't believe they nerfed Modus Veritas that bad. :(
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-22 17:40:08
Thanks dude faces
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 17:40:21
The hell is Natenn wearing?
garbage basically, but that's nothing new seeing how i argued over that there hero's galea for a -magic set during air time, and all he could answer me with was "who cares" after showing me he still took 13 damage per hit in the air, not that it hits others much harder now since even at 75 it was pretty laughable (different story on the ground though)
in short, playing on ps2 in 2011 is bad, let alone still playing on it in general
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 17:42:06
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »The hell is Natenn wearing?
garbage basically, but that's nothing new seeing how i argued over that there hero's galea for a -magic set during air time, and all he could answer me with was "who cares" after showing me he still took 13 damage per hit in the air, not that it hits others much harder now since even at 75 it was pretty laughable (different story on the ground though)
in short, playing on ps2 in 2011 is bad, let alone still playing on it in general I still play PS2 games on mine.
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 17:43:10
SIGH
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-08-22 17:44:58
I play XI through PCSX2 a PS2 emulator on my PC.
Jelly
Mad
pick one
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Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 17:46:05
ALL OF THE ABOVE <CALL>
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-22 18:01:11
What most people don't get about SCH is that it isn't a mage. It's a tactician. The whole point is looking at what you have available and deciding how to best use it at the right time.
That being said, SCH has a lot of potential in the hands of the player who knows what the job can do. This of course, takes a lot of work, as macros need to be very fluid, switching between the different areas SCH deals with.
It's a fun job and it my 2nd 75 job before cap was raised. If you want to level it, go for it. If not to 90 then to 49, as its also an awesome subjob. this pretty much, it's not so much of a mage as much as an ability based caster, much like dnc, it's heavily oriented around its job abilities. Also much like rdm its a hybrid, it can cure well, granted it's missing out on alot of the cure potency that your standard whm can wear such as roundel earring, and it has great nuking capabilities that blm does but alas sch is also missing out on some great nuking gear such as eradico mitts. but for them to moderately excel at either of these spectrum's you have to "strategically" make use of your strategems appropriately, IE: using alacrity, parsimony, and ebullience all in one nuke is not going to get you far being that you just used 3 out of your 5 strategems in a matter of 5 seconds. Sch also has great mp reservoir consumption being that they can make their mp last a considerably long time, where neither whm and blm can actively excel at that very well and only rdm can keep up, with Refresh 2, but if you plan accordingly and get the right gear for it, 500 mp sublimations will handle you quite well. on the subject of helix/weather; your weather spells is not only for just your mages ie: increasing their magic accuracy and boost in dmg if they nuke in the right element that they are under the right weather (if that makes any sense), it also is used for stat enhancements if you have merited stormsurge: ie: giving firestorm to sams for the str boost, thunderstorm to your thf for the dex boost, rainstorm to your whm for the mnd boost. Helix is probably one of the major things that make sch what it is, its currently the most powerful DoT (damage over time) spell in the game, with the exception of the new 2 hr based dark arts spell which sch is also getting. before modus veritus was nerfed, it was possible to use stacked helix/modus veritus on major NMs like absolute virtue, where a party of sch would just use modus veritus on an existing helix that a sch landed on him, in the end making your 200-300 dmg a tic DoT (at the time) into a 16k dmg a tic DoT, but alas modus was nerfed extremely making it virtually useless.
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-08-22 18:01:55
You tell that to someone talking to me on msn :X?
May god have mercy on his soul. Get out whilst you can.
this a million times over.
just don't ok iron? ok? ok.
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 18:02:36
You tell that to someone talking to me on msn :X?
May god have mercy on his soul. Get out whilst you can.
this a million times over.
just don't ok iron? ok? ok. told him before but he didn't listen :(
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Asura.Fondue
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By Asura.Fondue 2011-08-22 18:04:00
i liek turtles
aww you edited :(
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 18:04:06
why aren't yew on skype austface
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 18:04:42
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »why aren't yew on skype austface everytime i try to log on, it says "you are already logged on, sign and and try again" and i'm like, no don't wanna reboot.
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 18:04:59
wat.
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-08-22 18:06:15
You tell that to someone talking to me on msn :X?
May god have mercy on his soul. Get out whilst you can.
this a million times over.
just don't ok iron? ok? ok. told him before but he didn't listen :(
and he's gonna ignore me, obviously. don't be a poop face, iron.
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 18:06:50
hello there sexy man how are you today
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 18:07:27
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-22 18:08:56
iron you should add me to your skype, so i can get thrashed there instead of getting publicly thrashed
Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 18:09:55
jesse.iron.s
brb shower because i feel like walking cancer
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-08-22 18:10:36
Pandemonium.Ironguy said: »hello there sexy man how are you today
flexing my lamb chop arms in hopes you don't go down the wrong road, DO YOU WANT TO FEEL THEIR WRATH?!
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Pandemonium.Ironguy
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 18:11:12
DO YOU WANT TO FEEL THEIR WRATH?!
is it good in bed
BECAUSE YOU KINDA ARE
KINDA A LOT
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By Asura.Dajociont 2011-08-22 18:39:08
how dare you make me laugh and distract me from being serious :(
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Asura.Zatana
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By Asura.Zatana 2011-08-22 20:59:53
That really depends. I've been able to outnuke well geared BLMs before, and with Bliz 5 incoming I'm betting on being able to put BLMs to shame like SCHs used to at 75.
Leviathan.Haruhigumi
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By Leviathan.Haruhigumi 2011-08-23 08:59:38
That really depends. I've been able to outnuke well geared BLMs before, and with Bliz 5 incoming I'm betting on being able to put BLMs to shame like SCHs used to at 75.
Well Geared BLM > Well Geared Sch
Well Geared Sch utilizing Stratagems and Weather > Well Geared Blm
As you said it really depends, but usually what it comes down to is, who knows their job better?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2011-08-23 09:27:12
Leviathan.Haruhigumi said: »
That really depends. I've been able to outnuke well geared BLMs before, and with Bliz 5 incoming I'm betting on being able to put BLMs to shame like SCHs used to at 75.
Well Geared BLM > Well Geared Sch
Well Geared Sch utilizing Stratagems and Weather > Well Geared Blm
As you said it really depends, but usually what it comes down to is, who knows their job better?
Well Geared Sch not utilizing Stratagems and Weather = Idiot
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By Siren.Screamingbabies 2011-08-23 09:43:36
Leviathan.Haruhigumi said: »
That really depends. I've been able to outnuke well geared BLMs before, and with Bliz 5 incoming I'm betting on being able to put BLMs to shame like SCHs used to at 75.
You prefer or are a BLM: BLM > SCH
You prefer or are a SCH: SCH > BLM
As you said it really depends, but usually what it comes down to is, who knows their job better?
ftfy
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By Lakshmi.Sirafiinikkusu 2011-08-23 12:40:39
Siren.Screamingbabies said: »Leviathan.Haruhigumi said: »
That really depends. I've been able to outnuke well geared BLMs before, and with Bliz 5 incoming I'm betting on being able to put BLMs to shame like SCHs used to at 75.
You prefer or are a BLM: BLM > SCH
You prefer or are a SCH: SCH > BLM
As you said it really depends, but usually what it comes down to is, who knows their job better?
ftfy what the ***did you just say? i dont know why people are still dragging this out, good v good, sch wins on single target, but blm destroys it in aoe. sch has better mp control, blm has better hate control, ***is situational.
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By Mastersaxon 2011-08-23 13:45:21
I'm a proud lvl90 SCH and yes, it can be macro hell lol I originally lvled sch to be the sub for my SMN back in the lv75 days but i ended up loving it as it was the best of both worlds imo so I took it all the way. I could heal a party and never need to rest even at lvl37 when doing bird parties...i watched a "smn burned" sch try to heal party but couldnt handle the power and kept resting (haha) and before the atma things that have been brought in during my 10month absence, I managed to out damage a BLM in abyssea and i see that sch have also gained Stoneskin in their own right now which is good when using Sublimation and want to heal also.
So I hold my lv90 SCH books high and heal/nuke with pride!
Unicorn.Savoree
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By Unicorn.Savoree 2011-08-23 14:02:55
@ Mastersaxon
Your Avatar...
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By Mastersaxon 2011-08-24 12:49:35
@ Mastersaxon Your Avatar... umm...
lol uhh yeah, those were my two barbies (not life size) and that was my bathroom (before it was re-fitted) :D
So before I begin, I'd greatly appreciate all forum trollers to be on your merry way, I have no use for your non-sense.
~~~~Hey all!~~~~
So I just want some friendly advice about SCH please, I basically already know the whole concept of it as far as using the magic and what not, but I would like another mage type job in my arsenal and I'm so sick of RDM(Was 75 for 4+yrs on my first character) and honestly just sick to death of RDM, BLM and WHM purely maining in their respective arts has honestly never appealed to me, SMN and BLU are already 90 so I think want to lvl SCH as my next 90 but I'd just like some ideas about strategems useage, strategies, over all useage of SCH, any input from new SCH's experienced SCH's anything would be helpful, and don't start about (Derp derp derp Aby is life! SCH have no place in Aby!) b/c we all know Abyssea isn't everything, and will come to an end soon. Thank you all in advance for any and all input.
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