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PLD MDT/MDB/PDT help plz!
Fenrir.Gradd
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-22 01:22:06
Didn't want to make a new thread, but wanted to ask, is there any way to improve off this? I'm pretty fond of my Noct. Mail in the set x: My Current MDT Set: Thanks in advance. If youre going to keep the body, then you can swap out mermans ring for minerva ring, swap out head for Noesis helm, swap hands for Medb's gauntlets, use demonry stone all this giving you an increase of +7MDB overall over your current set. Atleast til you get yourself those rings.
Ah gotcha thanks, appreciate the help!
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By Odin.Zelphes 2011-08-22 01:33:42
Will resentment cape Work in Voidwatch? I could use Shadow Ring if it does D:
edit. It should work in present zones for Voidwatch (outside own nation's control).
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By Odin.Zelphes 2011-08-22 01:35:29
Could try augment Crim/blood cuisses for MDB+5 aswell along with M.eva and fastcast.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-22 01:47:22
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
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By Fenrir.Niniann 2011-08-22 01:56:08
There's the augmented dark rings, and colossus's mantle if you can think of some more efficient MDB swaps, but I can't think of anything.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-22 02:00:21
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
I'll take the chance to completely negate (and heal you) all damage over 5/5 IR.
Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-22 02:05:40
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
I'll take the chance to completely negate (and heal you) all damage over 5/5 IR.
Cause Northlands are always taken by a nation...
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 02:06:12
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
I'll take the chance to completely negate (and heal you) all damage over 5/5 IR.
Cause Northlands are always taken by a nation... What does that have to do with him actually having the gear?
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-22 02:08:42
well if he's got the gear, good for him. I'd say the vast majority of people don't and Campaign is easy street. The set is still some of the best gear around and a regular part of my rotation.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-22 02:10:53
well if he's got the gear, good for him. I'd say the vast majority of people don't and Campaign is easy street. The set is still some of the best gear around and a regular part of my rotation.
Pretty positive I was asking for advice on my gear sets, not other peoples.
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By Cerberus.Kelhor 2011-08-22 02:14:20
Pretty positive I was asking for advice on my gear sets, not other peoples.
GAWD so selfish, think about other people for a change
And the children, won't someone think of the children
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 02:16:42
Pretty positive I was asking for advice on my gear sets, not other peoples.
GAWD so selfish, think about other people for a change
And the children, won't someone think of the children I can think for myself, thank you.
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-22 02:16:42
well if he's got the gear, good for him. I'd say the vast majority of people don't and Campaign is easy street. The set is still some of the best gear around and a regular part of my rotation.
Pretty positive I was asking for advice on my gear sets, not other peoples.
Hmm pretty positive I didn't quote you when I threw my 2 cents into the thread.
Fenrir.Gradd
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-22 02:19:30
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
That was your quote, if not intended towards me, then who?
Good luck digging yourself out of this hole.
You made a mistake oh well, man up and stop trying to save face, who cares?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-08-22 02:20:18
well if he's got the gear, good for him. I'd say the vast majority of people don't and Campaign is easy street. The set is still some of the best gear around and a regular part of my rotation.
Pretty positive I was asking for advice on my gear sets, not other peoples.
Hmm pretty positive I didn't quote you when I threw my 2 cents into the thread. Pretty sure this kind of gave us the impression: Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
I'll take the chance to completely negate (and heal you) all damage over 5/5 IR.
Cause Northlands are always taken by a nation...
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-22 02:23:39
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
That was your quote, if not intended towards me, then who?
Good luck digging yourself out of this hole.
You made a mistake oh well, man up and stop trying to save face, who cares?
Hmm poster makes a suggestion about gear in the PLD MDT thread, he must be talking to Gradd? Couldn't I have just been contributing to the thread? I mean isn't that what the quote function is for, to specifically respond to someone?
What makes you think i wasn't responding to the OP?
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-08-22 02:25:16
Higher MDT to account for /256 rounding values. I don't own Nocturnus so the absorb rate is unknown to me, but I'm sure the AF3 rate is similar, also if you pick up a minerva's you can drop Askar for AF3 and a higher absorb.
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-22 02:26:39
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
That was your quote, if not intended towards me, then who?
Good luck digging yourself out of this hole.
You made a mistake oh well, man up and stop trying to save face, who cares?
Hmm poster makes a suggestion about gear in the PLD MDT thread, he must be talking to Gradd? Couldn't I have just been contributing to the thread? I mean isn't that what the quote function is for, to specifically respond to someone?
What makes you think i wasn't responding to the OP?
Yet you go on about how Northlands needs to be unlocked, yea totally, werent talking about my set at all.
NORTHLANDS ISNT UNLOCKED I CANT POSSIBLY USE MY NOCTURNUS MAIL.
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2011-08-22 02:28:33
You shouldn't, you'll make others jelly and rage. Be fair
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Ragnarok.Nausi
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-08-22 02:29:26
Um Iron Ram gear says hi, there is plenty of other MDT gear around to cap without having to loose a single piece of the set.
That was your quote, if not intended towards me, then who?
Good luck digging yourself out of this hole.
You made a mistake oh well, man up and stop trying to save face, who cares?
Hmm poster makes a suggestion about gear in the PLD MDT thread, he must be talking to Gradd? Couldn't I have just been contributing to the thread? I mean isn't that what the quote function is for, to specifically respond to someone?
What makes you think i wasn't responding to the OP?
Yet you go on about how Northlands needs to be unlocked, yea totally, werent talking about my set at all.
NORTHLANDS ISNT UNLOCKED I CANT POSSIBLY USE MY NOCTURNUS MAIL.
I responded with the north lands comment AFTER you responded to my IR comment... it doesn't mean that my original comment was for you if i respond to your response of it.
Fenrir.Gradd
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By Fenrir.Gradd 2011-08-22 02:29:35
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: »You shouldn't, you'll make others jelly and rage. Be fair
ILU Darka <3
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-08-22 02:35:11
Wait... I thought no one tanks in /nin any more regardless...and why would you not use a shield at all times on pld? unless you are triggering. Also I think honor bound > joytoy but hell idk my pld ain't even unlocked. WOOT WOOT MORE USELESS POSTS TIME!!
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By Pandemonium.Ironguy 2011-08-22 02:35:14
Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: »I don't own Nocturnus so the absorb rate is unknown to me, but I'm sure the AF3 rate is similar
i can basically confirm it's at least 5%, seemingly climbing to about even 10% on lower level stuff
without doubt my favorite body piece in the game looks-wise too, even
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-08-22 02:35:50
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »Wait... I thought no one tanks in /nin any more regardless...and why would you not use a shield at all times on pld? unless you are triggering. Also I think honor bound > joytoy but hell idk my pld ain't even unlocked. WOOT WOOT MORE USELESS POSTS TIME!!
btw i'm asking if what I said is true or not. I really don't know tbh.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2011-08-22 02:37:14
What makes you think i wasn't responding to the OP? You have already answered that yourself with:
Nausi said: I mean isn't that what the quote function is for, to specifically respond to someone
You didnt quote the OP, or anyone, thus any one with common sense would assume that since this thread was made over 2weeks ago and has been revived by Gradd asking for advice on his build, anyone coming in here and contributing facts or their opinion would be toward Gradd's question/build without quoting or directing your contribution to the OP.
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By Cerberus.Kelhor 2011-08-22 02:42:39
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »Wait... I thought no one tanks in /nin any more regardless...and why would you not use a shield at all times on pld?
I don't quite get where this came from. Even /nin, you use a shield on PLD. But no, anything you bring a PLD to these days, shadows don't generally cut it.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2011-08-22 02:46:11
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »Wait... I thought no one tanks in /nin any more regardless...and why would you not use a shield at all times on pld?
I don't quite get where this came from. Even /nin, you use a shield on PLD. But no, anything you bring a PLD to these days, shadows don't generally cut it.
op gear sets i didn't read a damn thing at all in this except for that. I saw her saying suppa and using honorbound. So i was like.. well I thought plds don't use /nin any more. And also even /nin you always had to use a shield regardless.
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By Cerberus.Kelhor 2011-08-22 02:49:05
Suppa actually isn't an awful TP earring even with a shield, since it's got 5 sword skill, but there are much better things if you aren't dual wielding.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2011-08-22 03:18:12
Didn't want to make a new thread, but wanted to ask, is there any way to improve off this? I'm pretty fond of my Noct. Mail in the set x:
My Current MDT Set:
Thanks in advance.
Minerva + shadow ring?
Phoenix.Gustavve
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By Phoenix.Gustavve 2011-08-22 11:49:06
For ppl referencing Minerva's, that's for ochain only eh? It's not hard to cap mdt without adding 8%. When compared to a 5/5 dark ring thats a difference in -3mdt and +13% pdt. That probably ends up being 2-3 mdb overall or ethereal earring. It's common to take both physical and magical dmg at the same time or before you can swap back. I don't think its worth the inventory or trouble to use in the correct situations.
Ok so I've been messing around with my gimp PLD lately and I though I could ask advice from some PLDs freak ;D (friend got almace/ochain/aegis/excal I've been jelly I wanna own too ;_;)Wanted to ask for MDT sets only but I figured I could ask for the rest too ._.
My TP set: (If I decid to use shield for some random reasons)
Will switch to suppanomimi and dual wield honorbound
My tanking set: (if I ever tank anything important <.< and according im /nin)
My LOLws set: (God forbid vorpal blade ._.;;)
I have heafoc mitts though af3 +2 would be better caus mitts have -accuraccy, I dunno.PLD ws suck anyways ;_;
My PDT set:
I have hmm hauteclaire and don't plan doing PDT sword anytime soon >.<
My current MDT set:
I guess I should be aming for this:
For both PDT and MDT set...but you know I don't think I will have this tomorrow lol
So heres the question:
nierenschutz VS creed baudrier For MDT?
also, wich situation is MDB better then MDT.
Edit: What are the best shield if you don't plan doing ochain/aegis?
Please comment so I can stop sucking.
/poke neosutra ;D
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