BRD Advice!? Help Me Not Suck :)

Has anyone tried Rudra's on BRD? lol

If you are main healing for low man you can always use cure potency atmas. I use Harmony but if you cleared Dynamis Xarc there is one from there. Otherwise, not too much cure potency available to BRD (silly SMN getting to use Facio Bilaut =/).

The torque I think is insanely expensive for 3% but the augment hat and pants would probably be really quick to redo.

Asymptotic obtains a Crooner's cithara!

So, I have a feeling imdoinitwrong. Started playing Brd a couple months ago and didn't really look for information on how to play it, just went off of what I thought would work best. One of the things that I see I'm missing from my playing style is the lack of skill sets for songs.

When I play, I use this set and then swap into this set. Now that's what I'm probably doing wrong. I switch to a Haste set just to lower the recast on the songs, since I never really knew what to switch into afterward. After reading this thread I see, however, that a skill set would be the best option.

Which brings me to my question. Is there an information database to find out the caps of certain songs (Scherzo, Marches, Minuets)? If not, what would be a rough estimate of how much skill I would need for some of the higher tier songs like Minuet V. With the current Recast set that I end up casting in, I sit at 354 Singing, 344 Wind and 315 String (String still 19 from cap). With gear I currently have, I could swap the Turban out for Marduk Tiara and the AF3 neck piece for the Barcarolle medal.

Also, a comment on spellcasting sets: From what I've seen, the Song spellcasting time caps at a much lower % than 50%, as I've seen songs casting in the 20%s of the Casting bar using my spellcasting set along with Deep Devourer. The cap seems to be around 75 or 80% from what I've observed. This seems to have started happening when the Crit Dmg cap and Fast Cast cap seemed to be broken.

Ok, to start with... don't worry about skill so much. The only relevant thing skill will be effecting is Minuet V. If you have at least 600 skill (Singing and wind, or singing and string) then you're capped with March, and Marches are the only songs you should be singing unless you're the second BRD in a party.

Your sets are fine really, Start casting in precast and then switch into full AF3+2 or if not, a set with as much haste/recast down as you can.

and YES

I've been noticing this happening too, but I thought I was going crazy.

Deep devourer, MM and a Minstrels ring as well as full spellcast gear is shaving off way more time than it used to before the last update. I thought It was just me, but apparently not.

Oh also, I don't think Minuet V has a reachable cap yet. Or it's too close to test.

Either 680 skill or 700 skill. I forget which.

orly

That's simple to reach then

you are way over the cap on song spell casting time, no need for shair mantle on the set 1, sell it, its no longer needed

It is needed if it allows you to cap without the use of Deep Devourer

Also the cap seems higher than before. Try it out.

song spellcasting time cap is 50%, he have 68%... on set 1, (minus 12% shair mantle) 56%, fast cast does stacks with song spell casting too

Notes from the update in question mentioned changing cap on Fast Cast, nothing about SSC time.
I know FC and SSC used to stack to a cap of 50%, not sure how they work now.

As I said earlier, the Cap seems to have been raised. Try using your regular spellcasting gear, and then stack Deep Devourer on it. There should be a noticeable difference. With my current set, I get up to 72% after Fast Cast, and if I add Deep Devourer on top of it, I notice an even earlier cast time according to the casting bar. Check for yourself.

Also, thanks for the info Flion and Altar. I'm assuming the full set would be for the set bonus? I guess I'll give it a shot.

Correct me if I'm wrong but latent rings are based off your base HP not abyssea enhanced hp. I know this is the case with the blm ring so I can't say for the brd but I thought I recalled my alt never getting it to work properly. I spent a number of months just thinking it was working because I never stay on her long enough to know what % stuff went off on.

So if you want to use this ring in abyssea you'll have to cancel your hp cruor buff as well as use an hp- set to put you below 75% of your normal hp.

O.O

WOULD YOU STOP SPEWIN THAT BS ON ALL THE FLIPPIN' BRD THREADS!! >.<

I've posted responses to your "Scherzo caps at 34%" statements every time and posted my own test results in same threads.

I am 1000000000000000000000% certain that Scherzo does NOT cap at 34% Damage Taken. I'll have to check back to the thread I posted to see what my current exact Skill/DT was, but I believe it was around 43 or 42% DT.

No, I was not wearing any PDT, I was pretty much nekkid with a few exceptions to make my base HP a little lower to make Scherzo proc with 1000 Needles.

In any case, NO, Scherzo does NOT cap at 34% DT!! >.<


Hmmmmm, can't remember what it takes to for skill to cap Minuet V atm, but I feel like 8/8 Wind/Singing and the skill from Full AF3+2 is more than enough actually...

Haven't casted Minuet V with Apollo's for awhile, but I'll go check after I post this.



Just a small correction that 5/5 AF3+2 gives +5 to the stat bonus from the song, not +4. And March is "lightning" based so it gives Dex, not Agi. :P

Provide the proof then. I've never seen you posting after me, ever.

There was an extensive thread on BG about this and they deduced the cap was 34%. Please provide any evidence you have on the contrary.

Nah it definitely works by canceling the HP buff.


The cap has changed. Try it out.

Posted over from Sentinel Scherzo thread x.x

Would be nice if someone with a lvl 90 Gjallarhorn and full skill gear could test out max current potency on Scherzo. Couldn't test any further since there aren't any Singing/String skill Belts/Rings like Nereids/Marching Belt unless I'm blanking on something. >.<

With Gjallarhorn's "All Songs +3", that'd be an extra 3% to Scherzo right there. Think a Max String build atm is about 767 combined skill, while a Max Wind build could probably reach up to like... 776~ish? Hmmmm, would have to take out 5 skill for AF3+2 Feet, so about 771~ skill? This is taking into effect Gjallarhorn and Daurdabla's 40 skill from the instruments themselves too. So Gjallarhorn should be able to just hit the next tier of Scherzo (10 skill means a new tier) from base combined skill alone, and could potentially hit 46% DT.

I love dual-wielding my Mythic Carnwenhans too! I thought I was the only one~

You're assuming that skill is a factor past 600. I've not seen any proof to support that theory.

If you're that sure that 34% isn't the cap then go do some tests and provide the results. (SS or Video will do)

Then you don't keep track of threads you've posted in. <.<

And that thread Kirschy started I believe when Scherzo was INTRODUCED and hasn't been updated/posted in a long while.

When I first sought after a cap for Scherzo I looked into that thread myself, and I reposted my little test up above just now. I did not test exact tiers, because it's just 10 skill/per tier and my tier lined up perfectly with Kirshy's tiers. I just wanted to test my current max.

So stop talkin outta your arse!

Then provide evidence to prove your theory.

I'll be more than happy to say you're correct if you actually provide hard evidence over anecdotal evidence.

Ballad increases fast cast, I'm not going to provide proof but please believe me.

Here, this came to my mind if ya want a SS.

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/104506-Neo-Dynamis-Changes/page49

Tachi posted how EA/Scherzo stack and they could reach 83% together.

EA is a flat 45% DT.

Whoever was casting Scherzo definitely didn't have a Gjallarhorn/Daurdabla (Would explain the 4% difference due to lack of 40 skill) but still had enough to reach 38% DT.

Derpy derpy.

I'll test it once I get home. But I recall all kinds of bitching from blms and while the rings aren't exactly the same they should be very closely related as the only real difference is the glitching with convert gear.

See, that's all you had to provide instead of being an insatiable ***.

Simply posting that evidence initially would have ended the discussion there.

You always need proof.

edit: I still don't really believe it, far more testing has to be done.

I remember vaguely hearing the BLM rings didn't work, but I've had no issue with the BRD rings.

Blm ring is far easier to test and no amount of lag will skew the results. You'll always get the right results provided you don't flip gear, resist or nuke on day or strong to day.

With brd it's cast time, now granted it's a lot of cast time so it should be easy to see, you've got to be sure that none of your other gear, atmas or other variables are going to cause any issues.

I'd like it to work but I'm going to have to see it for myself to believe that it works because my last series of tests failed to provide any fastcast bonus until I was in my normal latent hp range.