NIN Semi Update

While it's not much.... I think this is pretty badass. Innin needs to work from everywhere, though!

Agree because even while under the effects of Innin any kannagi kinja will still pull and hold hate with the rate of attack alone.

Atleast You can now reapply one of the two when you accidently hit the wrong ability.

Changing the recast timer was a good thing. Face it ninja is pretty powerful at the moment, only thing i wish they did was put this out when the ability was released. Would have been much more useful at 60-70s. I still like it for the ability to switch between the two. Increased evasion when needed back to damage when needed. Like samurai.

While it's not much.... I think this is pretty badass. Innin needs to work from everywhere, though![/quote]
Uh ninja crit hit is insane in or out of aby now. I just think they need to raise ninja magic damage based off tier like they do any other spell so innin wont be such a issue while using it.

... Why didn't you just say these in the same post?

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/9239-dev1017-Yonin-Innin

Go there, show support! Let's get it fixed!

Innin actually makes NIN a fairly strong DD against high defense monsters. Critrate is a static 1.0 increase in pDIF, so it's much more valuable as level correction and enemy defense increase. Further, with the -enmity it's easier to stay below the hate cap and go all-out for longer periods of time, much like DRG with its hate-shedding jumps. This is potentially valuable on monsters that aren't melee friendly (VWNMs for instance). Instead of saying the devs don't know when the job is useful, perhaps you should contemplate the possibility that you're not fully exploiting the tools you have available.

Yonin's trades are no different from the trades you make in gear.

You can't have everything,some times you have x2 nins in a group.if thats the case i personaly like to use innin

Any nin*

Don't even need kannagi to pull hate

Innin is nice when it is actually in effect (not much :/)

So... I should like, get 3 THFs in my party and have them spam collaborater on me in the party so I stay under the hate cap, and they stay on top so I can use Innin? That's the only thing I can think of to abuse the system on stuff that turns around. And it sounds like a lot of effort I don't want to go through and pretty much a waste of party slots. But maybe I am missing something, could you elaborate more? Is there something I don't understand about the mechanics of enmity and the -enmity it gives lets you not cap or something? Because for me, I just attack stuff without either up and have hate 99% of the time, pretty much regardless of what I am fighting at this point.


Who makes trades in gear? You macro on PDT/MDT sets if it matters, then take them off and go back to DD gear. Yonin doesn't work that way, I can't just use it for 10 seconds, then turn it off, then turn in back on for 10 seconds when I need it again.... unless 5 minutes has gone by. So its actually nothing like gear, it's a full tiem buff you use or you don't use. And currently, it's not worth using outside abyssea, and it never was, unless you were nin/drking something, which was pointless anyway, should of been using PLDs instead since they would held hate better and taken less damage.

It's not a crazy breakthrough

but it's not a kick in the balls either.

Grabs popcorn