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Body Piece for a Melee'n Corsair
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Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-03 21:44:35
Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Maybe they'll make Skadi useful
Legs/Hands were useful for COR..... >_>;
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By Ramuh.Thunderz 2011-06-03 22:07:31
doesn't cor/war pull out bigger numbers?
not stating just asking
with berserk/warcry and all?
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2011-06-03 22:16:28
berserk/warcry does nothing for wildfire.
the point is dual-wielding anything with your joytoy (or preferably mkris with 8/8 dagger) is going to dramatically gimp your tp gain, ws frequency and by extension your overall DoT.
but hey that's only been common knowledge since 2007 - wouldn't expect someone like the OP who afk'd their way to an Armageddon to know that or anything.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-03 22:23:52
Phoenix.Mogue said: berserk/warcry does nothing for wildfire.
the point is dual-wielding anything with your joytoy (or preferably mkris with 8/8 dagger) is going to dramatically gimp your tp gain, ws frequency and by extension your overall DoT.
but hey that's only been common knowledge since 2007 - wouldn't expect someone like the OP who afk'd their way to an Armageddon to know that or anything.
Wat, Melee COR was better than pew pew COR before Abyssea.
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By Phoenix.Mogue 2011-06-03 22:40:29
Leviathan.Niniann said: Wat, Melee COR was better than pew pew COR before Abyssea.
i don't know what you're trying to say. the conversation is about melee cor. the op is using mkris/acinaces which is about as counter-productive as it gets against any target in the game.
melee cor was king (and fun as hell) in old merit parties but you wouldn't have taken it to khimaira, right?
the viability of melee cor vs. abyssea nms isn't even under discussion but obviously it would have very limited use due to most abyssea nm's tp spam. However, i don't see any reason why melee cor would be outshined by /ra cor against nq abyssea mobs.
so basically nothing has changed.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-06-04 00:01:37
Sylph.Jada said: For your fyi
Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-04 00:45:04
Phoenix.Mogue said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Wat, Melee COR was better than pew pew COR before Abyssea.
i don't know what you're trying to say. the conversation is about melee cor. the op is using mkris/acinaces which is about as counter-productive as it gets against any target in the game.
melee cor was king (and fun as hell) in old merit parties but you wouldn't have taken it to khimaira, right?
the viability of melee cor vs. abyssea nms isn't even under discussion but obviously it would have very limited use due to most abyssea nm's tp spam. However, i don't see any reason why melee cor would be outshined by /ra cor against nq abyssea mobs.
so basically nothing has changed.
Calling people who are Melee CORs HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE is just plain foolish. There's situations where this setup is viable, though it's mostly fodder mobs. Calling someone stupid when you don't even know the context in which they're using said Melee COR... when the situation they're most likely using it for is the right one.. is just... I don't even know.
Basically if it's fodder (See: Dynamis, Einherjar, Limbus, EXP parties of all sorts, easy NMs in like Visions/Scars areas) you should be meleeing (it's also cheaper!). If it's not you should be shooting, or if it's really scary doing nothing.
Belittling someone who might just do a lot of fodder-mob stuff on COR is just.... idk... dumb.
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Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 00:49:51
I thought cor was supposed to /WHM, throw out some rolls, and then AFK? /WHM is obviously for Magic Defense bonus for the AoE nukes they'll get hit by, of course.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-04 01:03:00
Ramuh.Austar said: I thought cor was supposed to /WHM, throw out some rolls, and then AFK? /WHM is obviously for Magic Defense bonus for the AoE nukes they'll get hit by, of course.
yes
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By Sylph.Rorrick 2011-06-04 01:03:51
Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Maybe they'll make Skadi useful
Legs/Hands were useful for COR..... >_>;
For CORs who were meleeing? >_>
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2011-06-04 01:06:17
wait, serious question.... even with 90 cap and /nin getting DW3, meleeing dual wield style on cor is STILL bad? I had thought that changed when 90 hit.... am I wrong? (i dont do it on cor...i'm in the process of leveling cor and don't want to look foolish when i do get higher up)
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:15:33
Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I thought cor was supposed to /WHM, throw out some rolls, and then AFK? /WHM is obviously for Magic Defense bonus for the AoE nukes they'll get hit by, of course.
yes Am I doing it right? I keep the AF hat on, in case I do decide to quick draw after the tank dies.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-04 01:17:04
Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Maybe they'll make Skadi useful
Legs/Hands were useful for COR..... >_>;
For CORs who were meleeing? >_>
Tell me what was better than Skadi legs for meleeing that actually existed. Oh wait, you can't. Barbarossa pants didn't exist, and ACP legs didn't exist until much later. So yes. Skadi Legs.
Hands were good for QD.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:18:06
Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Maybe they'll make Skadi useful
Legs/Hands were useful for COR..... >_>;
For CORs who were meleeing? >_>
Tell me what was better than Skadi legs for meleeing that actually existed. Oh wait, you can't. Barbarossa pants didn't exist, and ACP legs didn't exist until much later. So yes. Skadi Legs.
Hands were good for QD. I honestly saw more of the Barbarossa than I did Skadi legs. :(
Leviathan.Niniann
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-04 01:19:04
Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I thought cor was supposed to /WHM, throw out some rolls, and then AFK? /WHM is obviously for Magic Defense bonus for the AoE nukes they'll get hit by, of course.
yes Am I doing it right? I keep the AF hat on, in case I do decide to quick draw after the tank dies.
Morgana choker would be an upgrade, and Relic Hat would be better. Bifrost ring over Serket and I believe you're good to go.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:20:00
Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I thought cor was supposed to /WHM, throw out some rolls, and then AFK? /WHM is obviously for Magic Defense bonus for the AoE nukes they'll get hit by, of course.
yes Am I doing it right? I keep the AF hat on, in case I do decide to quick draw after the tank dies.
Morgana choker would be an upgrade, and Relic Hat would be better. Bifrost ring over Serket and I believe you're good to go. Well serket ring is more expensive, so i thought it would be better. :( I'm too good to do dynamis or einherjar anyways.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-04 01:20:04
Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Maybe they'll make Skadi useful
Legs/Hands were useful for COR..... >_>;
For CORs who were meleeing? >_>
Tell me what was better than Skadi legs for meleeing that actually existed. Oh wait, you can't. Barbarossa pants didn't exist, and ACP legs didn't exist until much later. So yes. Skadi Legs.
Hands were good for QD. I honestly saw more of the Barbarossa than I did Skadi legs. :(
idk, they didn't exist for me. Skadi wasn't bad at all. :/
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:21:19
Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Rorrick said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Maybe they'll make Skadi useful
Legs/Hands were useful for COR..... >_>;
For CORs who were meleeing? >_>
Tell me what was better than Skadi legs for meleeing that actually existed. Oh wait, you can't. Barbarossa pants didn't exist, and ACP legs didn't exist until much later. So yes. Skadi Legs.
Hands were good for QD. I honestly saw more of the Barbarossa than I did Skadi legs. :(
idk, they didn't exist for me. Skadi wasn't bad at all. :/ I think the only time I saw skadi pants was on a THF.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-04 01:22:39
Ramuh.Austar said: I think the only time I saw skadi pants was on a THF.
It was best in slot on THF at the time, so understandable. Skadi wasn't best in slot, but it was a lot easier to acquire if you were already spamming Salvage anyway and had THF as a job.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:23:44
Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I think the only time I saw skadi pants was on a THF.
It was best in slot on THF at the time, so understandable. Skadi wasn't best in slot, but it was a lot easier to acquire if you were already spamming Salvage anyway and had THF as a job. It wasn't homam in most situations? I never really payed attention to THF back then, just TH4 and get off.
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2011-06-04 01:28:14
Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I thought cor was supposed to /WHM, throw out some rolls, and then AFK? /WHM is obviously for Magic Defense bonus for the AoE nukes they'll get hit by, of course.
yes Am I doing it right? I keep the AF hat on, in case I do decide to quick draw after the tank dies.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2011-06-04 01:31:45
Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I think the only time I saw skadi pants was on a THF.
It was best in slot on THF at the time, so understandable. Skadi wasn't best in slot, but it was a lot easier to acquire if you were already spamming Salvage anyway and had THF as a job. It wasn't homam in most situations? I never really payed attention to THF back then, just TH4 and get off.
Depends on your setup. If you had vbelt/dusk+1 Skadi was best, if not pretty sure it was Homam.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:34:57
Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I think the only time I saw skadi pants was on a THF.
It was best in slot on THF at the time, so understandable. Skadi wasn't best in slot, but it was a lot easier to acquire if you were already spamming Salvage anyway and had THF as a job. It wasn't homam in most situations? I never really payed attention to THF back then, just TH4 and get off.
Depends on your setup. If you had vbelt/dusk+1 Skadi was best, if not pretty sure it was Homam. Probably why I always thought homam then, since I didn't expect +1 dusk on most people back then.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:35:13
Shiva.Darkmacabre said: Ramuh.Austar said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Ramuh.Austar said: I thought cor was supposed to /WHM, throw out some rolls, and then AFK? /WHM is obviously for Magic Defense bonus for the AoE nukes they'll get hit by, of course.
yes Am I doing it right? I keep the AF hat on, in case I do decide to quick draw after the tank dies.
Totally, I mean, I even have Armageddon, dude.
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By Shiva.Darkmacabre 2011-06-04 01:37:28
Oh.. well in that case I'd recommend something with a little more MND since MP is not a big deal in Aby.
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-06-04 01:38:14
Been trying to HQ my light staff.
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