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 Shiva.Flionheart
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:40:35
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Langeleik

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March+3 "Etude"+3
LV 90 BRD

Means that if a new march is ever released with a highish cap, string+ gear will be much more important.

As it is now you can sit happy near cap, as long as string and singing lets you hit 600.
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2011-05-09 15:44:24
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Would the skill from String actually help it at all though? With String only effecting Range and not potency (or at least, that's what I was always told).
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:46:31
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Oh and for those interested:

With this instrument and AF3+2 hands

Advancing will now sit at 11% haste
Victory will now sit at 14.50% haste

Meaning we'll be sitting at 25.50% haste.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:47:34
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Sylph.Hitetsu said:
Would the skill from String actually help it at all though? With String only effecting Range and not potency (or at least, that's what I was always told).

It would do yeah, or it does for mambo at least.

For buffs which scale it's normally singing combined with whichever instrument is used.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:48:39
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And also the nursemaids harp does add time to lullabies

Edit: That was a stupid thing to say, disregard it.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-05-09 15:48:45
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People still use BRD?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:50:43
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Asura.Daleterrence said:
People still use BRD?

Why wouldn't they?
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-05-09 15:51:35
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
People still use BRD?

Why wouldn't they?

I dunno, it was a serious question. I have seen.. what.. 2 BRD since I came back?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:52:49
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Asura.Daleterrence said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
People still use BRD?

Why wouldn't they?

I dunno, it was a serious question. I have seen.. what.. 2 BRD since I came back?

BRDs are still as useful as they were before. Less necessary maybe, but they still provide the exact same as they did before.

And it's also a fairly decent healing job with MM and Tenuto'd ballads.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-05-09 15:54:10
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Sylph.Hitetsu said:
Would the skill from String actually help it at all though? With String only effecting Range and not potency (or at least, that's what I was always told).
Different buffs, different mechanics.

Also if I'm not mistaken you'd be at 288/1024 now (28.125%) with this instrument and BRD hands +2.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-05-09 15:54:44
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
People still use BRD?

Why wouldn't they?

I dunno, it was a serious question. I have seen.. what.. 2 BRD since I came back?

BRDs are still as useful as they were before. Less necessary maybe, but they still provide the exact same as they did before.

And it's also a fairly decent healing job with MM and Tenuto'd ballads.

Interesting.. Sorta got the feeling they were obsolete, because I've seen so few.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:55:44
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Sylph.Hitetsu said:
Would the skill from String actually help it at all though? With String only effecting Range and not potency (or at least, that's what I was always told).
Different buffs, different mechanics.

Also if I'm not mistaken we'd be at 288/1024 now (28.125%) with this instrument and BRD hands +2.

I'm counting 25.5% haste all together with this and hands+2.

Wiki takes piccolo into mind when they jotted down the numbers.

So it'd essentially be 2% higher than shown on each song.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 15:56:51
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Asura.Daleterrence said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
Asura.Daleterrence said:
People still use BRD?

Why wouldn't they?

I dunno, it was a serious question. I have seen.. what.. 2 BRD since I came back?

BRDs are still as useful as they were before. Less necessary maybe, but they still provide the exact same as they did before.

And it's also a fairly decent healing job with MM and Tenuto'd ballads.

Interesting.. Sorta got the feeling they were obsolete, because I've seen so few.

Nah, people just don't like playing the job.

Add a BRD/WHM to a lowman as a third job and you can add a lot of things to the table.

And that usefulness goes up the more people that are added.

It's quite a potent duo job too, with MM and Cure IV.
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-05-09 15:58:12
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G-horn 90 is back to ballads onry again.
Already got my string though.
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By Diabolos.Daddyx 2011-05-09 15:58:39
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Asura.Daleterrence said:
People still use BRD?

I use Bard a lot for lowmanning, Carols are especially helpful on those avatar VNMs among other things, as well as Marches / Debuffs. Certain things like Minuet kinda have a bit of a diminishing return inside Abyssea, but there's plenty of other songs to throw out there. Not to mention what BRD/WHM can do in a pinch for healing. :D
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-05-09 16:00:09
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Asura.Ludoggy said:
G-horn 90 is back to ballads onry again.
Already got my string though.

Eh the G.horn is still good for people who can't be bothered to totally re-do sets of gear to encompass string. Though a buffset is utterly pointless now anyway.
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By Gilgamesh.Hatfield 2011-05-09 17:44:35
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I love that there is now a march+3 instrument, but it really does seem like a kick in the *** to ghorn. Id feel like the relic should always stay at least +1 above whatever is released. Not that i mind since i most likely will never have ghorn for my brd. Had string caped at 75 (lol) but really its gimp now, guess its time for harp threnody spam.
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By Leviathan.Alkalinejoe 2011-05-09 17:48:22
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gdi.... Guess I gotta go level String now.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-05-09 17:58:13
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Sylph.Hitetsu said:
Would the skill from String actually help it at all though? With String only effecting Range and not potency (or at least, that's what I was always told).
Different buffs, different mechanics.

Also if I'm not mistaken we'd be at 288/1024 now (28.125%) with this instrument and BRD hands +2.

I'm counting 25.5% haste all together with this and hands+2.

Wiki takes piccolo into mind when they jotted down the numbers.

So it'd essentially be 2% higher than shown on each song.
Base values are 64/1024 and 96/1024, each +1 adds 16/1024 per song. So values with March+4 are 128/1024 and 160/1024, totaling 288/1024.
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By Creecreelo 2011-05-12 16:07:28
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Gilgamesh.Hatfield said:
I love that there is now a march+3 instrument, but it really does seem like a kick in the *** to ghorn. Id feel like the relic should always stay at least +1 above whatever is released. Not that i mind since i most likely will never have ghorn for my brd. Had string caped at 75 (lol) but really its gimp now, guess its time for harp threnody spam.

Honestly, I'm guessing that Gjallarhorn will be All Songs +4 once it hits lvl 99.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Daurdabla was 2 Additional Songs as well... :o
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-05-12 17:40:54
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
... can't be bothered to totally re-do sets of gear to encompass string.

Actually, the only slots you would need to change to go from Max Singing+Wind to Max Singing+String is One Earring and Feet.
(Wind > String Earring; Oracle's Pigaches > Marduk Feet)
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By Cerberus.Alshandra 2011-05-12 17:53:13
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Creecreelo said:
Gilgamesh.Hatfield said:
I love that there is now a march+3 instrument, but it really does seem like a kick in the *** to ghorn. Id feel like the relic should always stay at least +1 above whatever is released. Not that i mind since i most likely will never have ghorn for my brd. Had string caped at 75 (lol) but really its gimp now, guess its time for harp threnody spam.

Honestly, I'm guessing that Gjallarhorn will be All Songs +4 once it hits lvl 99.

I really wouldn't be surprised if Daurdabla was 2 Additional Songs as well... :o


i reckon ghorn will end up being at least +4 as well, and wouldnt it be nice if the harp gave another song at 99^^ im dreading the thought of having to rewrite macros if that happens i barely have enough room as it is haha
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By Caitsith.Alberic 2011-05-12 18:09:38
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My guess is that GHorn will be songs +4, Daurdabla will be songs +2 and grant the 3rd song. I'm not looking forward to the trials to get them to 99 though.