With warrior benefitting from "occasional double dmg" on the +2 gear, I'm wondering if you guys/girls that are already using something like VV + RR are putting another "Double Attack: Major" atma in your third slot.
I LOVE AoA, don't get me wrong, but wouldn't another double attack atma be more beneficial to a warrior? Like Atma of the Harvester? Str/Double Attack Major?
Opinions?
Another Atma Question
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Another atma question
10% double attack over 15% triple attack? Not sure I follow ^^;
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I run with Razed Ruins, Harvester, and Impaler on WAR.
When a +2 warrior double attacks, they have a chance at dealing double dmg. They already have a ton of DA from gear alone, so wouldn't more DA with atma give them a better shot at some high hits/crits? That's what I'm asking
And fwiw, I believe the combo of atmas I listed + gear caps DA. If thats true, is DA > TA for war?
Ramuh.Leif said: I run with Razed Ruins, Harvester, and Impaler on WAR. I think you'd be better with VV over impaler since its got str major too, plus regain Bismarck.Josiahfk said: It looks like the OP is asking "Is the af3+2 proc so powerful that I should overstack DA and disregard TA and it'll still come out on top?" *edit slowgaaaa Yup! I'm no mathologist, but the answer is no. Set bonus can't proc on ws, proper gear in tp phase will only use 4/5 or 3/5 +2 pieces which is a 3% or 2% proc rate. You're hoping that a .3% chance of proccing double damage on a tp swing will beat out the 15% triple attack, and it won't. If I'm wrong though, correct me! :)
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Leviathan.Solanis said: I'm no mathologist, but the answer is no. Set bonus can't proc on ws, proper gear in tp phase will only use 4/5 or 3/5 +2 pieces which is a 3% or 2% proc rate. You're hoping that a .3% chance of proccing double damage on a tp swing will beat out the 15% triple attack, and it won't. If I'm wrong though, correct me! :) My thoughts: I'll be DA'ing frequently. RR atma is gnarly with frequent DA's. I also have an emp. weapon with aftermath, another double dmg piece. Wouldn't near 50% DA grossly out-land 15% TA? Leviathan.Solanis said: I'm no mathologist, but the answer is no. Set bonus can't proc on ws, proper gear in tp phase will only use 4/5 or 3/5 +2 pieces which is a 3% or 2% proc rate. You're hoping that a .3% chance of proccing double damage on a tp swing will beat out the 15% triple attack, and it won't. If I'm wrong though, correct me! :) Bahamut.Zoltar said: Leviathan.Solanis said: I'm no mathologist, but the answer is no. Set bonus can't proc on ws, proper gear in tp phase will only use 4/5 or 3/5 +2 pieces which is a 3% or 2% proc rate. You're hoping that a .3% chance of proccing double damage on a tp swing will beat out the 15% triple attack, and it won't. If I'm wrong though, correct me! :) xiah is showing you using bhuj, my bad. I personally do have ukon, and I use RR VV Apoc. The extra DA won't beat the TA, no. please please please understand that the higher your DA is, the less impact adding more DA will have (diminishing returns). 15% TA will easily beat out any amount of DA you can get from atma. Set bonus procs are rare, and rarely worth building towards. Set bonuses cannot proc on WS either, otherwise we would be seeing screenshots of thieves doing 20k+ rudra's storms.
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Phoenix.Kirana said: please please please understand that the higher your DA is, the less impact adding more DA will have (diminishing returns). 15% TA will easily beat out any amount of DA you can get from atma. Set bonus procs are rare, and rarely worth building towards. Set bonuses cannot proc on WS either, otherwise we would be seeing screenshots of thieves doing 20k+ rudra's storms. So is this to say that (not counting job traits) a warrior with 35% DA (Gear/Atma) and 15% TA (Atma) will out parse a war with near 50% DA (Gear/Atma)? Not trying to beat the dead horse, just making sure yes. use RR VV Apoc atmas.
Correct, 15% TA from 0% is a straight 30% increase to ws frequency (15*2)/100*100. 15% DA from 35% is a an 11% increase. 15>11. Set bonuses are just that, a bonus, they make up such a low % of your overall damage, it's a bad idea to gear towards activation.
Thanks to all who responded, greatly appreciated!
Before I eject from thread, one last q: this applies to both Great Axe and Axe warriors, correct? :P
What's an Axe warrior?
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Someone like me with a Farsha/Ridill, hence why I ask
Bahamut.Zoltar said: Before I eject from thread, one last q: this applies to both Great Axe and Axe warriors, correct? :P Applies to anything Ifrit.Darkanaseur said: Correct, 15% TA from 0% is a straight 15% increase to ws frequency. 15% DA from 35% is a an 11% increase. 15>11. Set bonuses are just that, a bonus, they make up such a low % of your overall damage, it's a bad idea to gear towards activation. 15% TA from 0% DA/TA is actually a 30% increase Ah yeah sorry rushed that, thanks for correction
Lakshmi.Mabrook said: ~30% melee and ~15% more WS frequency, both are correct lol. It's 30% for both, but due to TP overflow it is a bit less than 30% for WS frequency.
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