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By Nabis 2011-03-19 04:17:13
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on the XI forums crying about how war is too strong and how it needs to be nerf

still wondering how the hell he could ws back to back like that with out a brew
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-03-19 04:27:26
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By Quetzalcoatl.Dawnn 2011-03-19 04:29:46
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its his 3 hit zanshin build with gaxe doncha kno?
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2011-03-19 04:29:52
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
He is refering to this thread in it that video was posted as an example of how war is "OP".

Nabis said:

still wondering how the hell he could ws back to back like that with out a brew
It was explained in the thread how he did it and how that is a bad setup.
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By Bahamut.Dasva 2011-03-19 04:30:50
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Looks like a rather low hit build with tons of multi hit rounds and timing with lots of haste
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By Siren.Kunimatsu 2011-03-19 11:34:41
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I like the random galka in red panties that runs along the screen halfway through :D
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By Bismarck.Torvak 2011-03-20 13:34:17
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Warrior is obscene, i came back the other week got upto lv82 or so and did a 4245 raging rush with my Byakko's axe, no stalwarts or champs tonic, just zerk. craaaazy maynn
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By Asura.Tamoa 2011-03-20 13:45:06
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Holy ***, Pat Sharp!!! :o
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By Fenrir.Horsebreath 2011-03-20 13:49:30
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Yeah WAR can do insane damage, but as always.... better have a hell of a WHM to keep you alive. WAR- defense, evasion - LAME
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-20 13:55:12
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Fenrir.Horsebreath said:
Yeah WAR can do insane damage, but as always.... better have a hell of a WHM to keep you alive. WAR- defense, evasion - LAME

People *** about it because they can't play their jobs right.
SAM can spike pretty high with Jinpu
DRK needs Torcleaver to really hold it's own.
MNK/WAR/DRG/DNC/THF all have critical hit weaponskills so they do just fine.

What makes WAR powerful is retaliation and the fact when they counter you get TP in return like a normal hit. This destroys monsters that multi attack.

Though your standard AH/Perle/Aurore DD are going to *** and whine.

Survival isn't a huge deal if your WHM has atmas.
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By Bismarck.Dmaul 2011-03-20 13:57:27
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Siren.Kunimatsu said:
I like the random galka in red panties that runs along the screen halfway through :D
You gotta love them streakers...

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By Fenrir.Horsebreath 2011-03-20 13:59:18
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Fenrir.Horsebreath said:
Fenrir.Skarwind said:
Fenrir.Horsebreath said:
Yeah WAR can do insane damage, but as always.... better have a hell of a WHM to keep you alive. WAR- defense, evasion - LAME

People *** about it because they can't play their jobs right.
SAM can spike pretty high with Jinpu
DRK needs Torcleaver to really hold it's own.
MNK/WAR/DRG/DNC/THF all have critical hit weaponskills so they do just fine.

What makes WAR powerful is retaliation and the fact when they counter you get TP in return like a normal hit. This destroys monsters that multi attack.

Though your standard AH/Perle/Aurore DD are going to *** and whine.

Survival isn't a huge deal if your WHM has atmas.


LOL @ Skarwind... as always adding your two cents where it isn't needed or wanted. I'm not bitching about the job, just the lack of being able to solo with it. My NIN/DNC SAM/DNC can solo 1000 times better than my WAR.

Oh btw +1 and +2 Ravager's Gear. Not some cheap ***AH stuff.
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By Bahamut.Zoltar 2011-03-20 14:03:36
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I couldn't see a tp-bar so I'm guessing brew or something...was that Metatron or Ukko?
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By Alexander.Xgalahadx 2011-03-20 14:06:27
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Bahamut.Zoltar said:
I couldn't see a tp-bar so I'm guessing brew or something...was that Metatron or Ukko?
The tp bar is gone because someone else is taking the video. It's Ukko and the damage is to low for it to be brewed.
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By Fenrir.Horsebreath 2011-03-20 14:06:33
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I wish I had fraps so I could show you my brew of Rani with a dagger on NIN. Like dropping TP wing every 2 seconds.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-03-20 14:07:38
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edit: beaten
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-03-20 14:13:04
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It's obviously not brewed. Probably just maxed out on Store TP, and getting in the retaliations which don't animate due to other animations. Being able to 5 hit is pretty crazy, and not like I know everything about Store TP, but if it doesn't cap out, then with atmas it's very easy to get up to about 27 TP per hit(probably more). Factor in TP for being struck as well and there ya go. Possible regain from COR as well as moonshade earring and other stuff. It's not really so farfetched or amazing.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-03-20 14:17:15
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Could've killed it faster if he was gear swapping? I've tanked Tabilla Mnk/War and literally got up and went to make a sandwich after putting up counterstance. Who gives a ***lol.....
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By Asura.Kese 2011-03-20 14:17:43
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ya thats what i was thinkin. damage was not impressive at all.
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By Bismarck.Strange 2011-03-20 14:20:52
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-20 14:21:27
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Well WAR IS overpowered and needs a nerf...

EDIT: Though that video is nothing special.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2011-03-20 14:22:59
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5 hit without atmas or regain is already doable, and not -terribly- hard. The biggest things you need to give up is Atheling for tactical mantle (Losing 45 ATT and 3% DA). To go from 5 hit to 4 hit you need.. 39 more STP for Ukon, for a total of +93 from base. If you do 2x major STP atmas (+20 each) you can still use Razed Ruins. Sounds like a fun thing to try, especially if you are blood tanking like the guy in the video.

If you are doing it with Bravura, you can even keep the Atheling in, eat carbonara and 4 hit without giving up haste at all.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Soube 2011-03-20 14:47:23
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WAR is OP
MNK is OP
WHM is OP
PUP is LOL

Nerf them all!
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By Bismarck.Cerelyn 2011-03-20 14:53:36
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By Bismarck.Torvak 2011-03-20 15:01:08
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so is it worth getting ukkos if my raging rush is already 4245 and 1 shotted a worm?
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By Bismarck.Strange 2011-03-20 15:05:05
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Bismarck.Torvak said:
so is it worth getting ukkos if my raging rush is already 4245 and 1 shotted a worm?
im gonna work on it after i do almace for my blu
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-03-20 15:05:08
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Bismarck.Torvak said:
so is it worth getting ukkos if my raging rush is already 4245 and 1 shotted a worm?
yes. it might take some time, though. if you do the walk of echoes weapon, you'll be competing against blus wanting CDC and NINs wanting Blade: Hi.
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By Lakshmi.Blacklion 2011-03-20 15:06:10
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Bismarck.Torvak said:
so is it worth getting ukkos if my raging rush is already 4245 and 1 shotted a worm?

Yes, Because Your ukkos damage would be even higher, And there's harder mobs out there than a worm., quite frankely The war in this video is doinitwrong, not sure what the fuss is about, people should be crying at the fact he doesn't gear swap.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-03-20 15:08:05
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Quetzalcoatl.Soube said:
WAR is OP
MNK is OP
WHM is OP
PUP is LOL

Nerf them all!
What are you saying? PUP is essentially a shitty MNK, but it's better than a Caladbolg-less DRK or a CDC-less PLD.
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