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Making hexa better
Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 00:42:24
I think the discrepancy is that our gear options for Realmrazer are superior to those for Hexa Strike.
Fenrir.Camaroz
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2012-06-06 00:56:58
I can't really see it though; only thing I added to my set is Heka vs. Augur's Jaseran for a total of 4 mind.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 01:04:13
This is what I'm looking at:
vs.
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2012-06-06 01:06:05
Hyaline hat for realmrazer! Also moonshade for hexa, and probably smart grenade.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 01:09:52
Changed~
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2012-06-06 01:14:27
Ya, I use almost the same - Rubeus because I'm not going to get them and Marduk. I use moonshade for hexa. I guess my thing is I felt since the update is when I noticed an increase in the output.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 01:19:24
You make it sound like you're using identical sets for the two WS o_o
(except for earring)
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2012-06-06 01:45:51
Well they are close but they are on my item sets.
EDIT: I guess what I don’t really understand is why/how since I have only added Heka (4 mind addition) that realmrazer is suddenly epeen now is all. Nothing more nothing less. I definitely was not hitting those numbers before the update is all I’m saying. Reaching out to other whm's that use the weaponskill.
By luckycharms1877 2012-06-06 02:24:21
My Current TP Setup
Realmrazer
/cry still no luck on Heka 0/647 fights lots of Heavy plates tho so its a win still
By luckycharms1877 2012-06-06 02:26:25
really wish i could get Hyaline Hat im sure ill have soon tho
By luckycharms1877 2012-06-06 03:04:40
Well they are close but they are on my item sets.
EDIT: I guess what I don’t really understand is why/how since I have only added Heka (4 mind addition) that realmrazer is suddenly epeen now is all. Nothing more nothing less. I definitely was not hitting those numbers before the update is all I’m saying. Reaching out to other whm's that use the weaponskill. I agree seems astho the WS has gotten stronger or another reason, well... in my case anyways i did some work to my Spellcast coz seem like the WS was going off before the gear swap but when i got the delays and all that str8 it is really doing some impressive numbers
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 07:36:19
I mean on paper Realm comes out ahead of Hexa with "similar quality" gearsets.
I still hold that Realmrazer's 100% mind mod and lack of dependence on critical hits makes WHM gear options for it much better than Hexa's STR20/MND20 and critical hit dependence in practice.
I don't know the augments you're using on Selenian, but I would strongly recommend grabbing a Rancorous Mantle for Hexa at least. Sunbeam MAY come out ahead of it on Realm, but it's close either way.
Most of all, I'd really really recommend trying to go for Rubeus pants. The drop isn't all that uncommon and they're the best thing melee WHM has ever seen o_O
I severely doubt that they altered the fTP in the last update, it's more than likely confirmation bias, especially considering realmrazer should take the lead both in theory and for the "reality" reason I put forth.
Fenrir.Camaroz
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2012-06-06 07:57:43
Ya i made a Kala thread just the other day. I didnt get one single tell lol.
Lakshmi.Byrth
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-06-06 08:39:55
I suspect Hexa has an attack penalty, but I don't have WHM leveled on the real server or reinstalled since getting my new computer. Anyone feel free to confirm~!
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 09:11:48
I suspect Hexa has an attack penalty, but I don't have WHM leveled on the real server or reinstalled since getting my new computer. Anyone feel free to confirm~!
No one ever responded to my question on BG about mystic boon mods ;-;
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-06-06 09:23:34
Whatever is on BGwiki is probably right. 30% STR/50% MND would make it an 80% mod WS, while essentially all the other WSs from NI are 60% or less. You can test it in about 5 minutes on WHM/THF against bunnies, though. Stack some STR and SA-WS, calculate the base damage of the weapon.
My guess is that whoever figured it out for wikia forgot fSTR. 30*.85 = 25.5%
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 09:25:13
It was on Gobli, not wikia (generally more reliable), but I had sort of noticed that the 30% STR was mysteriously close to fSTR myself.
I'd test it myself, but I don't have it! :D
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-06-06 09:28:51
lol, do Nyzul to 100 you noob! It'd take like 10 runs tops these days even without all the .dat mods and stuff people doubtlessly have applied for Neo NI.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 09:30:17
I have a runic key now, I even unlocked PK! Don't you remember the 5 minutes I cared about PK in the DNC thread? That's why!
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By Lakshmi.Byrth 2012-06-06 09:34:37
It doesn't look like the bgwiki info was based on anything obvious:
http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/63084-New-WS-Properties-Modifier-Damage-Testing?p=2214884&viewfull=1#post2214884
I still think it's pretty likely to be 50% MND, though.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 09:45:47
Someone who actually plays FFXI needs to test it for me!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-06-06 09:50:50
Someone who actually plays FFXI
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Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 09:58:52
I'm sure there's someone out there still playing.
Fenrir.Didgist
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By Fenrir.Didgist 2012-06-06 10:51:30
Man if only I played on Fenrir and had Mystic Boon unlo...wait.
Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 10:55:07
Go SA mystic boon some level 1 bunnies!
Fenrir.Camaroz
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2012-06-06 15:15:19
I would like to thank you guys/girls for helping also. I appreciate that while this may not be your job of choice you still put in effort as though it is.
Cam
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Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-06 15:16:22
I would like to thank you guys/girls for helping also. I appreciate that while this may not be your job of choice you still put in effort as though it is.
Cam
But we don't have this job levelled and/or don't have a Mjollnir, so how could we POSSIBLY do math for it!
You're welcome and thank you D:
It's nice to have someone actually notice that we're just trying to provide good information and aren't just being anal retentive, for once.
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Fenrir.Sylow
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-13 21:34:42
Thanks to Jinjo for dat mining, but
Shedir Manteel
DEF:63 Accuracy+10 Attack+10
Magic Accuracy+5
"Magic Attack Bonus"+5 Haste+4%
Potency of "Cure" effects
received +3%
WHM gets a respectable TP body now.
Fenrir.Camaroz
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By Fenrir.Camaroz 2012-06-13 22:06:36
Use that over Royal Redingote with Dual Wield and Double Attack?
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2012-06-13 22:11:41
Royal Redignote may pull ahead, but I can't personally sacrifice my ACP body.
You also need haste in the body slot to be able to afford things like Kthonios Mask and Rubeus pants.
I am always looking for ways to improve this ws, sadly we dont have to much gear to work with. If i am missing anything please feel free give me some pointers. Club is 357 capped. My hexa's have gone as high as 2500~ outside abyssea (not on skele or dmg prone mobs) As far as accuracy i dont miss much and generally all 6 hits from hexa land. Thanks for your time!!
Item set is on my profile: Molva maul is main makhila is 2nd
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