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 Carbuncle.Lolserj
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:29:57
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it was created during the dinosaur age, lol, theres a reason the old languages are called assembly languages
Clearly you have no concept of what assembly language is then...

Without assembly language you wouldn't have anything.

well from what i understand from our lecture its something to do with a ... probably not the best word to use but it looked like a stack so to say with machine language at the bottom (well i think it was something like elec...tronic something or other at the bottom and the actual programming languages at the top)
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-22 09:30:26
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I'll be getting an associates in CS at some point >_>
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2012-01-22 09:31:26
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I'm going to be attempting to self learn C++ again I think, dunno how well that will go though :|

if you have money to spare, or can find them cheap, look up diane zak's programming book. theyre what im using in my classes and i absolutely love them


Thanks I'll look into that!


I think I've offically pissed off like every guard in Markarth :p


gogo stealing *** :p (thieves guild quest, that stingy wizard wouldn't let me use his ***so I just stole his key and went in :p)
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 09:32:38
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
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it was created during the dinosaur age, lol, theres a reason the old languages are called assembly languages
Clearly you have no concept of what assembly language is then...

Without assembly language you wouldn't have anything.

well from what i understand from our lecture its something to do with a ... probably not the best word to use but it looked like a stack so to say with machine language at the bottom (well i think it was something like elec...tronic something or other at the bottom and the actual programming languages at the top)
ASM is the closest thing you can get to that any and all machines understand natively.

Binary > Hexadecimal > ASM
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:33:15
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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it was created during the dinosaur age, lol, theres a reason the old languages are called assembly languages
Clearly you have no concept of what assembly language is then...

Without assembly language you wouldn't have anything.

well from what i understand from our lecture its something to do with a ... probably not the best word to use but it looked like a stack so to say with machine language at the bottom (well i think it was something like elec...tronic something or other at the bottom and the actual programming languages at the top)
ASM is the closest thing you can get to that any and all machines understand natively.

Binary > Hexadecimal > ASM

didn't delve that deep into it :|

just went over some of the things and yeah was something like that
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-22 09:34:01
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here's a picture of what i have so far, but the images i have for it atm are way too small and i'm having trouble getting right mouse click for character 2 to work
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 09:36:24
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In short assembly language is all the op codes that the CPU understands.

All your C++, C#, Java, etc. (all languages) compilers convert all your code into asm so the computer can execute it.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:37:40
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ah ok

does assembly convert to machine language?
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-22 09:38:54
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my teachers like to tell of olden days when you wrote programs via punchcards
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:39:16
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my teachers like to tell of olden days when you wrote programs via punchcards

my dads boss did the same
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 09:40:09
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Cerberus.Irohuro said: »
my teachers like to tell of olden days when you wrote programs via punchcards
That's basically binary, lol.

Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
ah ok

does assembly convert to machine language?
For all intensive purposes, asm is machine language.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:42:21
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
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my teachers like to tell of olden days when you wrote programs via punchcards
That's basically binary, lol.

Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
ah ok

does assembly convert to machine language?
For all intensive purposes, asm is machine language.

ah, seemed as though there was something else when my professor was discussing it

though it looks like ***i've never seen before when i saw code for it -_-
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 09:45:45
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It's not for your average programmer.

But at least understanding the concepts behind it should be.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:46:41
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well this professors been telling us we need to know assembly and C so idk @_@
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-22 09:47:44
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back then programming wasnt something that anyone could pick up, it was something for scientists to do
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:48:04
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BUT WE ARE SCIENTISTS
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-22 09:49:34
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
BUT WE ARE SCIENTISTS

i mean like rocket scientists >=|
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-22 09:51:03
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do you want me to program you a rocket

i'll program you a *** rocket
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-01-22 09:55:58
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I wake up and walk into a thread full of computer nerds. I suddenly feel inadequate. :x
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 09:57:54
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CS = Computer Science
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 09:58:11
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It's definitely a science, lol.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-22 10:00:19
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i didnt dispute that it was a science =/
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-01-22 10:04:49
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Leviathan.Chaosx said: »
CS = Computer Science
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 10:05:21
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Hurray for science!
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 10:07:05
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I saw someone mention intro to computers before... lol

It was the same for me too, excel, word, all that crap.

It wasn't listed in the CS category though, as it shouldn't be.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 10:10:50
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I remember taking intro to computers the semester after I took asm. It fulfilled one the general elective requirements.

Open up notepad, type whatever sentence, close and save. That's your quiz for today.

I was like wow, and here I was last semester scanning the video memory to determine the manufacturer of your video card, lol.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-22 10:17:27
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for me intro to computers is a required unskippable class =(
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-01-22 10:19:38
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I think the worst class I have had to take in my program was Computer User Support. I thought we were going to learn some troubleshooting techniques and things like that. The teacher we had though was this lady who knows next to nothing about computers (did some research, she has a masters degree in "Leadership" whatever that means) so the class ended up being focused entirely on customer service skills. We had to write a two page paper each week about a customer service experience we had and we shared them on Monday which took up the whole class and then Wednesdays class was watching youtube videos about customer service.

For my final paper about my customer service experience I wrote about how as a student I had signed up for a computer user support class and was disappointed to end up not learning anything about computers whatsoever and how it was a huge waste of my time.
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2012-01-22 10:21:20
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you just have shitty luck with teachers
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2012-01-22 10:23:58
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Cerberus.Irohuro said: »
for me intro to computers is a required unskippable class =(
I think they changed it to a requirement not soon after for all new incoming students.
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