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Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
By Zehira 2025-02-25 11:55:53
Awe, they don't like their new boss. No, they have the same boss they've always had; the people of the United States.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-25 12:10:40
Found my Musk email in my inbox when I got to work today, along with an all caps email from the union saying ignore it. They promised OPM would back the hell off by end of business, and sure enough, around 3 pm got another all caps email declaring victory. It's gonna be a stupid 4 years lol. Oh I see Musk is saying we have a second chance to respond, or else we will be fired. That's just not how the world works, Elon.
It's fine to hate Elon, and I understand that the email is meaningless. That said, what have you done in the last week? If you're a productive person, making 5 bullet points should be easy and satisfying. Are you opposed to it just because it's Elon, or are you ineffective? 100% chance he's ineffective.
I have to report what I worked on every day as part of my time sheets. I have to file a quick weekly report, very simple ~50 words, for my boss (which I've complained about because we already do this in greater detail in our daily timesheets). I had to do this at my old job too, but that was because of customer billing.
He's a *** govt employee being paid by your tax dollars (I say your because I'm not American), and as a tax payer, you should have every right to know where your taxes are going. Its no different with my outlandish condo fees: I have a right to know where that money is going.
If "what did you do last week" is such an outlandish request for someone to fill out, they're definitely doing *** all.
By RadialArcana 2025-02-25 12:15:43
Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »there is massive fraud with people having 2nd jobs etc due to WFH and this is causing labor shortages in the private sector. please link to the source you saw for this statement, this is fascinating and I want to learn more about it. First I heard about a labor shortage due to this. There is no need to provide a source oh weird. you stated a technical fact regarding a defined labour shortage being proven to be caused by a specific thing. And when I inquired as to the source where you personally heard this. You can't remember?
So does this mean there is no source for this specific claim? You're just implying this technical fact is true without evidence to support it as a specific cause for this claim?
I never understand this kind of argumentation online, we aren't in a court of law with a judge and jury to persuade. All that matters is if it makes sense or not, and you obviously know it does or you would refute it with your own thoughts instead of using nonsense.
If you're unaware, this is a FFXI forum. None of this matters, me posting it won't bring it into life. It will happen if it's going to happen, regardless whether I post it or you refute it in silly ways.
It's a discussion cause it's interesting, nothing else. There is no greater weight to it, it's just what it is. We could be just as easily be talking about star wars, or pineapple on pizza in this random thoughts thread.
If you want to explain why someone wont take a second job out of honor to tax payers, then please do so. If you want to explain why over employment in the public sector does not remove jobs from the private sector, please do that too.
This is how this works, someone says something and you say why you think that's wrong it if you wanna. You don't just say um excuse me, sauce and gravy?!
By Kaffy 2025-02-25 12:33:24
Depends if you want to discuss something (or even argue passionately) in good faith or just bait with troll comments. Most of the time it seems you just want to get a rise out of people rather than have a discussion because its interesting.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-02-25 12:40:54
A source helps to back up a specific claim:
there is massive fraud with people having 2nd jobs etc
This is relatively easy to support, you can find data to show that people working two jobs at once has a specific prevalence. Whether it's massive is much harder to support.
due to WFH
Also easy to support, don't need a study. Common sense that if you have to work in office you can't be doing 2 jobs at once.
and this is causing labor shortages in the private sector.
This is what Josi is questioning, because you have to establish both that those labor shortages exist and that they are being directly caused by what you outlined. It doesn't even seem logical(why would someone working 2 jobs create a shortage), much less factual.
Ultimately, I think that a strict deference to sources is tedious and on forums like this it's typically just being used to silence another argument by putting the cost of continuing it greater than the value. I don't think we should need to cite sources to share 'random thoughts' on FFXIAH. But, the scope of your statement could be narrowed to make it more accurate and easier to accept at face value.
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By RadialArcana 2025-02-25 13:07:00
It was just something I added onto the list, it's not that big of a deal to the point I was making. However it made sense to me that if you have too many workers in public sector, when you're removing a lot of illegal workers already it's good to have a lot of people looking for jobs (and possibly willing to retrain into other fields).
There is obviously a worker shortage or there would be no immigration.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-02-25 13:21:46
It's fine to hate Elon, and I understand that the email is meaningless. That said, what have you done in the last week? If you're a productive person, making 5 bullet points should be easy and satisfying. Are you opposed to it just because it's Elon, or are you ineffective?
I largely agree and most people who are doing work will have some weekly status email/update on where things are going, if anything just to have someone that can unblock things for you if there are problems and for accountability. You should, barring illness or vacation, but able to talk about what you've done in the past week so that's reasonable. I've had this everywhere I've ever been and I think most productive people will say the same.
The problem is when you start having a bullet pointed list being reported to a single OPM address that has no understanding of the tasks involved, assuming they are actually going to review it for the 100s of thousands of employees, it seems foolish. Do they actually expect OPM to review and follow up on everything? What about singular tasks that are compounding/difficult problems that may not be easy to split into 5 bullet points?
It's even more foolish when you consider that a lot of people in the US government work on things that are sensitive in some capacity or another, so sending that data to a single source is a problem. It doesn't have to be outright sensitive directly, but you now have one email address that has every federal employee reporting back what they are working on, this is a problem on multiple levels. Even mild things, let's say someone working on software responsible for personnel info in the military - it's easier to find out who target if someone wanted to obtain that information now in a central location, making it an opsec problem.
There's no reason this should be handled in this haphazard, insecure, problematic way. It should be handled at lower levels where decisions can be segmented and made based on productivity, with sensitive potentially interesting data being kept within their own departments/orgs.
By RadialArcana 2025-02-25 13:36:16
People are celebrating cause Kathleen Kennedy is retiring after ruining everything she had control over, with her militant feminism. I would bet she has groomed someone to take over from her, that is just as bad and with the same ideology.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-02-25 13:37:19
Disney is rotten from the core, there's no doubt whoever ends up in her place will just be more of the same
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-02-25 13:37:38
The problem is when you start having a bullet pointed list being reported to a single OPM address that has no understanding of the tasks involved, assuming they are actually going to review it for the 100s of thousands of employees, it seems foolish No one had to review these lists. The lists are a red herring. He just had to tell some stupid AI bot "cross reference who sent an email back with the full list of federal employees and report who didnt send an email back".
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-02-25 13:47:39
Make your list like
- Price
- Of
- Eggs
- Went
- Up
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By Fenrir.Richybear 2025-02-25 13:54:54
due to WFH
Also easy to support, don't need a study. Common sense that if you have to work in office you can't be doing 2 jobs at once.
So fun thing, back when I had an office~y job, the guy working the order desk also had a side business. 75% of the time he was in the office, he was just networking himself out for his actual company.
Regular company thought it was great because he was there in person. Plus it's not as if someone working an order desk has to meet a quota, you're not a salesman trying to bring in revenue. Instead he'd be on the phone calling his customers for his locksmithing gig. Higher ups would hear him on the phone to customers thinking he was doing his regular job. If he ever *** off to do his personal business, he'd say he was out doing site checks. Now throw in the fact that all the various hardware (doorknobs, locks, pins) was just yoinked from the regular company for his own personal use and they thought "nahhhh, he's just making sure our customers' places are up to par." You. dumb. shits.
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By Shiva.Thorny 2025-02-25 13:56:55
The problem is when you start having a bullet pointed list being reported to a single OPM address that has no understanding of the tasks involved, assuming they are actually going to review it for the 100s of thousands of employees, it seems foolish. Do they actually expect OPM to review and follow up on everything? What about singular tasks that are compounding/difficult problems that may not be easy to split into 5 bullet points? It said about 5 bullet points. If you listed a single complex task you could add a clarifying sentence to make it clear you were still being productive; do you think someone is going to be fired for having 1 good bullet point?
It's even more foolish when you consider that a lot of people in the US government work on things that are sensitive in some capacity or another, so sending that data to a single source is a problem. It doesn't have to be outright sensitive directly, but you now have one email address that has every federal employee reporting back what they are working on, this is a problem on multiple levels. Even mild things, let's say I know you are working on software responsible for personnel info in the military - I now know who to target if I want to obtain that information, making it an opsec problem. This is the real problem with the way it was done. It's evident by the way many different administrators are immediately having to tell their employees not to respond; even ones who would likely defer to Trump/Musk.
It should be handled at lower levels where decisions can be segmented and made based on productivity, with sensitive potentially interesting data being kept within their own departments/orgs. Not so sure there, either. With how heavily bureaucratic our government is, I suspect you'd have efforts to resist at every management level.
Ultimately, there's probably a better solution. I don't think I'm qualified to say what it is, and there are glaring problems with the way it was done. Many employees have serious reasons they can't or shouldn't respond. However, I suspect the majority are more concerned about the fact they did not do 5 meaningful bullet points worth of verifiable work in the last week.
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By Asura.Iamaman 2025-02-25 14:05:28
Not so sure there, either. With how heavily bureaucratic our government is, I suspect you'd have efforts to resist at every management level.
It's a challenge for sure, it happens in the private sector too. When layoffs occur they typically come from finance who just kinda decides who stays and who goes regardless of productivity and without consulting the managers. A company I used to work for went through this recently and some highly productive people were laid off while some who never did anything remained.
That's the way people in these positions do layoffs, they just pull plugs and assume it's gonna work out. In their defense, it often does. Things still work eventually and things settle down after the initial uproar. I've just always felt it was a weak and unproductive way of doing it, decisions should be delegated to people who know who should go based on productivity.
Everyone knows who the unproductive people are. I'd like to think if you told a VP or mid manager they had to lay off x FTEs, they'd pick the people who never do anything, but maybe that's just naive of me. It certainly doesn't work that way in the real world, but I think that's because of the way layoffs are conducted.
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By Bismarck.Josiahflaming 2025-02-25 14:08:12
Make your list like
- Price
- Of
- Eggs
- Went
- Up my eggs seem to be immune to the inflation. I only get the dumb expensive extra extra large ones since wife likes feeling rich and making big eggs, easy for a husband to want to spoil etc
And I took this photo late into Biden's presidency, and just bought a couple more cartons last night and they were the same price lol. I expected them to shoot up in the last 8 weeks of new administration but thankfully no price changes on the gourmet dumb eggs
The suppliers must have some built in price hike safety nets I was already absorbing beforehand.
By Pantafernando 2025-02-25 15:24:07
Here is me thinking they pack the eggs differently in another country, but its about the same.
(I actually favor the free range egg).
This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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