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 Carbuncle.Nynja
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-19 19:56:09
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
Poker can be gambling but mostly isn't.
wat

Yes, there are varying degrees of control (investigation into a company before investing, folding a shitty hand in poker, etc) and risk. Perhaps you would go so far as to call these things "odds"?
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By Afania 2025-01-19 22:52:22
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Ill pass, I fall under middle class, lower end of it but still middle class. Your policies will have zero benefit for me financially, and your open support for DEI policies will hinder me greatly as a heterosexual white male.


I think lower tax benefits middle class/below middle class the most tbh. Canada's high tax actually hurt middle class and below the most. It makes it much harder to accumulate wealth and move up a tier in terms of social hierarchy for them. But it doesn't really hurt upper middle class with multiple real estate.

And high tax hurts purchasing power in economy..... except real estate(lol), that's what everyone try to buy after they have money in Canada and that makes middle class or below more poor.

The real underlying economic issue of Canada is far more complicated than just tax of course. Such as the lack of strong industry like tech or high end manufacturing that drive the economy growth, the highest GDP industry in Canada is real estate(lol), which is totally *** up.

Those are far more important issues than "DEI". Because the poor economy performance that Canadians are facing today is the fault of bad economic direction since 25 years ago. Arguing DEI is a waste of time.

Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
your open support for DEI
policies will hinder me greatly as a heterosexual white male.

I do? I supported game dev and investor creative freedom to insert their ideology of any kind in their art in that woke game thread, that's all. That counts as supporting DEI?

I am from a region that is far more conservative region than Canada in terms of social policy, on a level that isn't anywhere close. Our most "left wing"(if that even exist here) party are more right wing than conservative party in Canada.

Irl I see black people on street like once per year lol.

If you think I'd put DEI anywhere close to top 20 priority when it comes to voting or suggesting a policy you are wrong lol. Our politicians and supporters argue about how money should be used everyday, and which country to side with on international level. DEI is like the last thing we care.
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By Afania 2025-01-19 23:07:05
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Garuda.Chanti said: »
To expand on my post above:

Horse racing, the stock market, blackjack, roulette are all gambling. Commodities are HIGH RISK gambling. Poker can be gambling but mostly isn't. Mahjong in the Chinese diaspora is like poker.

The cowboy in the "but its the only game in town" joke knows he isn't gambling, he is paying for amusement.


Stock market is not always gambling though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling

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Gambling (also known as betting or gaming) is the wagering of something of value ("the stakes") on a random event with the intent of winning something else of value, where instances of strategy are discounted.

Buying stock is like owning a company. And you are buying it because the company is currently at a good price that seems worth it to you. The "good price" is determined by various indicator like PE ratio, NAV ratio, and projected industry growth etc.

There are plenty of business analyze and strategic decisions involved in the process when you decide to own a portion of a company.

That being said, some people do buy stocks with a mindset of gambling. Not everyone though.
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By Carbuncle.Nynja 2025-01-20 00:17:59
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Your definition of gambling is wrong then. And I can state that with confidence since you sourced it from Wikipedia.

Unless you're suggesting that games like blackjack and poker arent considered gambling? Because theres definitely strategy involved in those games and other games that are definitely considered gambling.
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By Afania 2025-01-20 00:34:59
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Carbuncle.Nynja said: »

Unless you're suggesting that games like blackjack and poker arent considered gambling? Because theres definitely strategy involved in those games and other games that are definitely considered gambling.

Huh?

Chanti said:
Poker can be gambling but mostly isn't.

Chanti already said Poker mostly isn't gambling because it has strategy. I was simply saying in terms of strategy and decision making stock market isn't any less than poker. Which makes them both not gambling compare with pure luck based games like slot machines.

Also when it comes to random elements it doesn't have to be 0% or 100%. It can be 40% random 60% strategy for example. It's not black and white.

Idk that much about poker, but in stock market the influence of luck element is 50% at most. Black swan is bad luck, the market condition when you are in the market is luck based too. But minimize the impact of bad luck is part of stock market strategy already. Hence it's mostly not gambling.
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