Random Thoughts.....What Are You Thinking?

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I only wanted to give an advice about giving an advice!

Soft paws I suppose.

I said "good idea", not "nice". Which is the term that you used, not I.

To me it is not a "ummm this is not nice" issue, but a "hmmmm this may affect me" issue. I don't use terms like "nice" or "good" as a base for decision making.

In other words, not a moral issue according to my definition of moral. Not sure if your definition of moral is different though.


If your advice only has the term "nice" or "good" involved, then it's not gonna work on me, lol. If you tell me I can make a lot of money by being nice, it would have work way better ;p.

Pushing one's own morals onto other people is the same as someone saying "be nice".

I don't think they are the same, lol.

I would push certain belief if I feel some belief or action may potentially affect my personal benefit in the future. I don't view it as moral issue though. Moral is only about good or bad, not necessarily a conflict with personal benefit.

(This is also why piracy is never a moral issue to me, but a money issue btw)

But maybe you have different definition on moral, idk.

Morals are inherently subjective. As is being nice/bad. They are not "the same", they are, however, both based on one's own definition of them.

At least we agree with this. That's why I normally don't care about other people's moral until I feel they may potentially affect my life. That's where I draw the line between act or don't act.

I owned several leather shops in the hippy years. I like working with leather and designing clothing and accessories.

Longest time I ever held one job was my last leather shop. I just couldn't figure out how to quit.

Nice didn't mean what it does now.

Origin

Middle English (in the sense ‘stupid’): from Old French, from Latin nescius ‘ignorant’, from nescire ‘not know’. Other early senses included ‘coy, reserved’, giving rise to ‘fastidious, scrupulous’: this led both to the sense ‘fine, subtle’ (regarded by some as the ‘correct’ sense), and to the main current senses.

I dont get the double quest when referring to my ADVICES.

If im giving an ADVICE, the proper way to reference that is by using bold and underline

BUT BOLD AND UNDERLINE MAKES TOO MUCH NOISE!!!!!

Corsair is heckin' fun

if you're not adding italic to emphasis leaning in while giving advice I can't take it seriously.

But the things you said, and the way you worded your responses:
make it likely for the reader to think that moral implications are a big motivation for responding. Curious how you are gonna explain this.

Not to mention saying that "he also broke ettiquette". Etiquitte = appropriate behaviour. So you believe there is appropriate behaviour for things.

But regardless, it goes both ways. Even if you think that a person offering a (somewhat) cordial advice on advice etiquitte so that your advice doesn't come across as abrasive (which is desirable from a purely utilitarian standpoint, unless one's intention was to sound abrasive, which I didn't want to assume) is "pushing his morals" on you, they still have as much right to offering it as much as you think you have a right to offer an advice motivated by personal reasons (which you haven't explained yet). In effect, you're telling people how to behave.


How will it affect you? I assume you mean by making you closer to adopting the same behaviour?

Philosophy time with Zeig and Afania.

Get some powdered wigs, y'all! And/or come down with an unhealthy addiction to prostitutes. And/or get jacked and write about a cave allegory while you're at it!

Or idk, pluck a chicken and say, "BEHOLD A MAN!"

Alternatively, Afania posts from Ragnarok character because that profile picture is way cooler than account main PFP :3c

Or stream a Shadow of the Erdtree challenge run of your choosing.

Speaking of Elden Ring, what do you think of Nightreign's announcement?
As a Fromsoftware fan who isn't very fond of ER's combat, I found what I saw in the trailer interesting. Players seem less restricted than what's usual in your standard Souls game. Seems it's intended for multiplayer though.

Probably not going to play it. It's single player or a 3 player team up. Battle Royale style where the map is shrinking and you have 3 game days to obtain loot and kill the final boss before the session ends and you start over. Still no cross platform which for a multiplayer-centric game is unacceptable.

It sounds weird. Idk! Made me wonder if Fromsoftware has a fox in the hen house or something. I'll wait to see what people think when it lands.

I don't view etiquette as moral. To me the use of etiquette is a behavior that one can choose which leads to certain result. Like when you go to a country with different culture, you follow their etiquette so you become part of the group etc. likewise when you purposely ditch etiquette, you convey your negative emotion to the opposite side. It's a social tool first and foremost.

Rant about specific individual behind their back at its core, it is an action of emotions. You feel good when you do it. That's it. It doesn't even convey the negative emotion to your target because they can't be read by the target. It doesn't serve any other purpose except emotional "feel good".

To me personally, whenever I see someone do this multiple times, my first reaction is always "will they do the same to me?". If you talk bad behind someone's back once, they'll do it second time,third time, and anyone they know can be the next victim. And other people may view such behavior negatively because they may not want to become the next victim.

(Personally, irl I avoid anyone that has such habit so I don't become the next victim)

Additionally, there is also the risk of the listeners are all supporters in the same social circle, created a bubble that prevented the speaker from really seeing the flaws in their actions. Because nobody will point that out due to "etiquette" reasons.

That was the whole logic behind why I said "it is not a good idea". I didn't say nice. "Be Nice" has to produce specific result to have a value. It's not always the best response to every situation.

And you didn't convey that value in your "advice" lol. That's why it's totally unconvincing.

I didn't say you can't offer advice btw, of course you can. I only said purely moral based advice isn't going to work on me.


I get that many people operate on the basis of moral when they make decisions, especially you. So it's easy to think that way.

Not me though, moral as a concept is rejected by every braincell in me. It's like when vampire touches sun, painful.

Maybe I had moral concept when I was younger, but the influence of such concept got weaker as I got old.

I am surprised that you haven't realize this fact after this many years of moral exchange lol.


I view it as a bad idea, why would I want adopt the same behavior under most circumstances? Your assumption is WAY off lol.


What's wrong with sounding abrasive though? You haven't give me a reason beyond "be nice". (I know you feel sounding abrasive is wrong, but I don't share such views)

You are free to assume I sound abrasive because I am mean if you wish. Why does it even matter? Why do you keep saying you don't want to assume this way? I just don't understand.

I admitted the first response was an emotional response by nature too. I have higher emotional fluctuation than average, so it's easy to make emotional decisions for me too. But at least the message communicated the negative emotion. and whether the opposite side appreciate the advice or not, and their negative emotional response after that, didn't really affect my mind. So whatever, idc.

And like you said, Vyre is a "good guy" and a mod, so I don't mind backing down. But if you think that's because of "moral", you are damn wrong.

That one isn't evil enough though ;(

Here, do something productive to the world

Human philosophy and ideology debate is THE productive action in human society silly. That's how our social and political systems are built. People debate on the best course of action and society found a consensus, then move forward.

Funny enough, my company rotates the managers/boss with incredibly high speed.

So much that when they interviewed us to allocate us in each department, they said to not to choose managers, because they often change.

I remember my last three year in my previous job i had different bosses (direct and 1 lv above) each year.

While this sounds like a chaotic world, and its, at least, the problem with bad managers is diminished, you just need to wait a bit for it to change.

That said, i feel like lately my direct bosses are relatively younger than the firsts one i had.

Maybe they are in the 30~50 range.

Young people tend to care less about small details. They have less problem leaving workers alone than the older generation, that had the mentality of monitoring as much as they can

Are you aware you just said a sophistry?

No? Explain to me like Im 5 plz.

I've been learning leatherwork and accessories from a mentor recently too. My mentor asked me if I can help her open an online store and sell those together. If I wasn't already busy with job I would, but I may eventually do it in the future too.

Looks like Chanti is Senpai from this perspective ;)

Go to school kid.

FFXIAH is a dangerous place for filthy kids

The internet did not exist when I had my leather shops.