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Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
 Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 15:49:01
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet.
Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech.
It annoys me a bit too. A couple of my friends teach, and you would not believe how many students think that it's acceptable to put text/internet speak in assignments.
Idiocracy is upon us, ladies and gentlemen!
By Artemicion 2011-08-18 15:49:40
It's a little odd that so many of you are concerned with dictionaries, definition, and the etiquette of word-dom, when by definition those terms are undeniably words. Whether they are proper or not is up to the individual.
Webster doesn't own my mind.
Replacing a letter with another one in an existing word or compiled acronyms aren't words last time I checked D:
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 Cerberus.Irohuro
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 15:49:46
<- historical linguistics hobbyist, who usually focuses on the evolution of the germanic branch of indo-european languages
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 Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 15:49:48
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: »these shitty online terms need to stay out of the english dictionary, they're not words at all, just *** slang. You realize that slang and dialects is how languages evolve? That is how languages like English grow and develope from Old English which is borderline undecipherable. This + the internet is becoming such a huge part of every day life for a growing number of people each year. Things like this become common speech for millions of people used every day. It's not hard to beleive that they would make them a word defined in the english dictionary.
Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 15:50:38
I use phrases like "omg" and "idgaf" in normal conversation all the time. And I am not ashamed in the least. It doesn't make me any less intelligent or even less articulate.
Like Urial said, it's evolution before our very eyes. And its only right and proper to partake in such.
I find that obnoxious! How do people take you seriously?
Cerberus.Irohuro
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 15:51:52
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet.
Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech.
It annoys me a bit too. A couple of my friends teach, and you would not believe how many students think that it's acceptable to put text/internet speak in assignments.
Idiocracy is upon us, ladies and gentlemen!
its what happens when you dont have an official group who handles how the language evolves and is presevered
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 15:52:19
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are?
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 Leviathan.Novax
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By Leviathan.Novax 2011-08-18 15:52:54
I don't go as far as sayong O-m-g(unless being playful). Saying the actual acronym isn't for me, unless I'm saying Idk my BFF jill. Then I'm a pro.
By Artemicion 2011-08-18 15:53:28
Whatever. I can't help but find it unprofessional and silly.
It's a language derived of anonymity and laziness through telecommunications.
I'd hate to see the day were things like "lol" or "sammich" get accepted or are overlooked in resumes or essays for academic or career purposes.
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Cerberus.Irohuro
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 15:54:57
what was used before lol anyways? hahaha?
Leviathan.Novax
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By Leviathan.Novax 2011-08-18 15:57:22
what was used before lol anyways? hahaha?
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By Artemicion 2011-08-18 15:57:51
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are?
I'm not really criticizing anything other than the ridiculous nature of unprofessional "words" being put into a professional and defined environment. But if you want to attack an aspect of my argument that was never present in the first place, go for it.
Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 15:58:30
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning.
 Phoenix.Fondue
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By Phoenix.Fondue 2011-08-18 15:59:04
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning.
thats not very nice
Leviathan.Novax
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By Leviathan.Novax 2011-08-18 15:59:23
nekkid- (of a person) naked: some of the oldest photos in existence are of nekkid women
COME ON MAN!?!?
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-08-18 16:00:05
I use phrases like "omg" and "idgaf" in normal conversation all the time. And I am not ashamed in the least. It doesn't make me any less intelligent or even less articulate.
Like Urial said, it's evolution before our very eyes. And its only right and proper to partake in such.
I find that obnoxious! How do people take you seriously? Don't misunderstand me. I'm not going around saying "O-M-G", but I will mutter it. And "idgaf" I say sometimes.
"brb" is another one that I'll say casually.
I don't use it in front of my boss or anything, either, just knowing my audience.
But honestly, I believe I should be able to regardless.
Diabolos.Neclord
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By Diabolos.Neclord 2011-08-18 16:01:15
Sammich has been used way before this whole interwebs came about its not that just sprung up on here. Same with ftw, when i was in middle school friends and i would be idiots tagging walls with it but to us it meant *** the world.
Cerberus.Irohuro
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 16:01:28
i usually say it as ohmahgah when i say it out loud
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-08-18 16:02:41
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning. Sorry but that's elitism bred from convention. I find it odd that people take pride in conforming to what other people have deemed "standards".
For instance: grammar. Yes, grammar serves a purpose and should be utilized in order to increase coherency.
But then you got people that will flame the *** out of others for using "you're" instead of "your".
That's asininely pretentious, and I scoff at those people probably in much the same way you scoff at the receptionist.
Grass is always greener, it seems.
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Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 16:03:09
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning.
thats not very nice
She's a tard and a half to begin with, and she hardly does her job anyway.
Leviathan.Novax
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By Leviathan.Novax 2011-08-18 16:03:14
Ftw(for the win) originated in poker I'm told.
Caitsith.Zahrah
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2011-08-18 16:05:56
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning. Sorry but that's elitism bred from convention. I find it odd that people take pride in conforming to what other people have deemed "standards".
For instance: grammar. Yes, grammar serves a purpose and should be utilized in order to increase coherency.
But then you got people that will flame the *** out of others for using "you're" instead of "your".
That's asininely pretentious, and I scoff at those people probably in much the same way you scoff at the receptionist.
Grass is always greener, it seems.
It may come off elitist, but I'm with Art on this. There's no place for this in a professional environment. Would you like to meet our receptionist? Five minutes with her, and I'm sure you would be thoroughly annoyed.
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 16:07:01
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are? I'm not really criticizing anything other than the ridiculous nature of unprofessional "words" being put into a professional and defined environment. But if you want to attack an aspect of my argument that was never present in the first place, go for it. You called the people at Oxford tools... I take that right away as you putting yourself above them in situation. Therefore you criticized their decisions. Now I'm asking what makes you someone that is qualified to criticize anyone in the matter?
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-08-18 16:08:15
Quote: Like Urial said, it's evolution before our very eyes.
I'd argue it's moreso devolution than evolution. I'm guilty of using some internet speak on the web, but never in real life conversation and never in anything serious.
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Cerberus.Irohuro
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By Cerberus.Irohuro 2011-08-18 16:09:44
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning. Sorry but that's elitism bred from convention. I find it odd that people take pride in conforming to what other people have deemed "standards".
For instance: grammar. Yes, grammar serves a purpose and should be utilized in order to increase coherency.
But then you got people that will flame the *** out of others for using "you're" instead of "your".
That's asininely pretentious, and I scoff at those people probably in much the same way you scoff at the receptionist.
Grass is always greener, it seems.
It may come off elitist, but I'm with Art on this. There's no place for this in a professional environment. Would you like to meet our receptionist? Five minutes with her, and I'm sure you would be thoroughly annoyed. "OH EM GEE so, like, i heard on EF BEE that my friend said that her friend said that his friend said that her mom said that their going to the party 2nite but I DEE GEE A EF cuz im gonna go to the better party EL OH El"
Lakshmi.Flavin
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2011-08-18 16:09:53
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning. Why would you want to make fun of anyone in your office? If we're talking about professionalism and such then that is by far less professional than using OMG or BRB. I mean seriously people here sit on the internet daily while their supposed to be working and no one seems to care about that but watch out for the internet speaks! if she talking to a customer like that then there is a problem but if its just around the office with peers then who cares.
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By Asura.Sandolphon 2011-08-18 16:10:11
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning. Sorry but that's elitism bred from convention. I find it odd that people take pride in conforming to what other people have deemed "standards".
For instance: grammar. Yes, grammar serves a purpose and should be utilized in order to increase coherency.
But then you got people that will flame the *** out of others for using "you're" instead of "your".
That's asininely pretentious, and I scoff at those people probably in much the same way you scoff at the receptionist.
Grass is always greener, it seems.
It may come off elitist, but I'm with Art on this. There's no place for this in a professional environment. Would you like to meet our receptionist? Five minutes with her, and I'm sure you would be thoroughly annoyed. It's only professional because other people say it is.
Do you or have you ever seen a cartoon called "Rugrats"? One of the best episodes is one in which the toddler, Angelica, overhears her mother saying a "bad word". Angelica repeats it and is scolded. Tommy and his crew of babies overhear the adults calling the word "bad" and their expressions sum up my feelings completely.
They stared with looks of terror in their eyes until one of them said "How can words be bad?"
By Artemicion 2011-08-18 16:11:32
Just bugs me how tools at Oxford acknowledge ridiculous internet lingo as actual words, worthy enough to be put in the dictionary, when they belong only to an isolated atmosphere of communication: the internet. Perhaps it's spread like a disease enough to the point where we say things like "BRB" and "LOL" in everyday speech. It kind of bugs me that you think you're so learned that you can criticize others so easily and decide for yourself and everyone else that this kind of language is "ridiculous"... Who are you to decide? What have you contributed to the english language? What makes you the expert you seem to think you are? I'm not really criticizing anything other than the ridiculous nature of unprofessional "words" being put into a professional and defined environment. But if you want to attack an aspect of my argument that was never present in the first place, go for it. You called the people at Oxford tools... I take that right away as you putting yourself above them in situation. Therefore you criticized their decisions. Now I'm asking what makes you someone that is qualified to criticize anyone in the matter?
Simply my stance on the matter.
Internet lingo belongs on urbandictionary.com, not on this
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By Artemicion 2011-08-18 16:13:08
I say "OMG" to make fun of our receptionist. She uses internet speak in the office, and it makes me want to slap her every morning. Sorry but that's elitism bred from convention. I find it odd that people take pride in conforming to what other people have deemed "standards".
For instance: grammar. Yes, grammar serves a purpose and should be utilized in order to increase coherency.
But then you got people that will flame the *** out of others for using "you're" instead of "your".
That's asininely pretentious, and I scoff at those people probably in much the same way you scoff at the receptionist.
Grass is always greener, it seems.
It may come off elitist, but I'm with Art on this. There's no place for this in a professional environment. Would you like to meet our receptionist? Five minutes with her, and I'm sure you would be thoroughly annoyed. It's only professional because other people say it is.
Do you or have you ever seen a cartoon called "Rugrats"? One of the best episodes is one in which the toddler, Angelica, overhears her mother saying a "bad word". Angelica repeats it and is scolded. Tommy and his crew of babies overhear the adults calling the word "bad" and their expressions sum up my feelings completely.
They stared with looks of terror in their eyes until one of them said "How can words be bad?"
I used to take a similar stance when I was younger, but the only thing that makes a word bad or professional or any other adjective that pertains to it is definition and context.
This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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