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Random Thoughts.....What are you thinking?
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By Allyha Kiade 2014-11-26 21:53:05
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2014-11-26 21:54:24
i clicked on spath's stream, watched an ad, saw spath throw his hands in the air and go like 'yeah!', and then another ad.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2014-11-26 21:55:12
Get out of the Excal LS chat Mine :0 You're not welcome, Ultrosian traitor
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By Odin.Minefield 2014-11-26 22:16:14
I AM OMNIPOTENT AND I AM EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-11-26 22:25:43
i clicked on spath's stream, watched an ad, saw spath throw his hands in the air and go like 'yeah!', and then another ad. :< Didn't even know that was happening.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2014-11-26 23:38:53
I need this bear stuff
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 23:43:30
Josi, what inspires you to post from so many different names so often?
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-11-26 23:49:10
A large thanks to everyone who visited the stream tonight. I know it wasn't the most exciting at times but it certainly picks me up to do it and to see even a few people enjoy watching it.
Now then, to decide between sleep and console gaming. x.x
By Jetackuu 2014-11-26 23:50:34
I think I may play some Mario Kart, was playing earlier but my nephew kept whining so I couldn't really enjoy it too much. But to be fair, I don't really enjoy it so much by myself, or even online.
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2014-11-26 23:56:36
Go explore the world of Thedas and fight darkspawn, dragons, demons, and fellow humans
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2014-11-27 00:13:05
Bismarck.Dracondria said: »
Go explore the world of Thedas and fight darkspawn, dragons, demons, and fellow humans Haven't played the other games yet. Putting it off till then. On top of that, don't have the money for a new game right now.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-27 00:13:42
I think Josi needs laid.
By Artemicion 2014-11-27 00:22:59
Jet, I'm in need of some tech support :(
By Jetackuu 2014-11-27 00:27:55
I slept for like 13+ hours last night, and what'd you do Art?
By Artemicion 2014-11-27 00:36:32
So I was cleaning out my ITX build and rearranging a few things and decided to throw in a second 80mm exhaust fan. Now since my tiny motherboard only has one system_fan input outside the CPU cooler input, I figured I'd just use my included y-adapter and plug it into the pump of my H100i for power. Everything was going fine until I noticed that upon boot up and use, the fans were spinning, then suddenly stopping and repeating this process over and over.
I thought that was weird and decided to turn up their rpm with the built in fan controller switch on each fan. Medium was giving me the same results, and high obviously was loud as hell. So I switched back to low when suddenly everything turns off instantly. I assume I must have shorted something out, or knocked something loose. Anyways, upon booting back up my pump's LED begins flashing red, and now all my fans that are powered via the pump are running full bore and are loud as hell. Worse yet, CPU temps began increasing at an alarming rate when I checked the bios. Went from like 30°C to 50 in seconds, then as high as the low 80s.
At that point I shut off, unplugged everything and did an outside build. Same results sadly. Pump/fans make a loud terrible noise and the LED flashes red. Corsair and users alike put that symptom at three possible outcomes: 1) The block isn't touching the CPU correctly, which I already ruled out. 2) The fans aren't spinning, which again is false as they're now operating at full blast whether I like it or not. 3) The pump is broken, the most likely candidate.
As a precaution I used some isopropyl alcohol and cleaned up my cpu and block, and reapplied my thermal paste. And strangely after putting everything back together, temps are acceptable, but show no consistency. Sometimes jumping and staying in the high 40s/low 50s just in the BIOS, and now while operating, temps are just as they were before. 30ish idle, high 40s under load.
I would say what happened was I somehow *** with the pump voltage while adjusting my fan controllers and broke the pump, but if the pump was truly broken, my temps wouldn't have improved so suddenly.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-27 00:47:57
It's possible you through it for a loop. Really not sure how those things work, as I've never messed with them or researched them but if they're software and physically controlled then the chip to control them may have went into lalaland when it went into fault (assuming that's what the red led was for) now if it's not and the controls are just pots that adjust the speed, well then I'm concerned.
However just dropping the current on one more fan as a load shouldn't have done all of that, unless that sucker is pulling a lot in the first place.
Are they still going full speed?
I mean if your pump is bad, and that's what's drawing the heat from your cpu then if that wouldn't be working I'd say your temps would be much higher, regardless of what the fans are doing.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-27 00:55:15
Personally I never liked the idea of using water in my computer, I know pure water it's not conductive, but still, didn't like the idea.
I honestly am lazy about my computer and use the concept of "leave well enough alone" and don't open it up usually unless something isn't working, so the idea of having to check it often just was a "meh" to my lazyness, my temps aren't too horrible anyway (they could be better, but I don't OC anyway).
Well outside of the motherboard doing it, as I let it manage the clock speed, but I bought a higher end mobo, it's an ASUS something with some fancy chipset heatsinks.
By Artemicion 2014-11-27 01:01:31
Well, sadly reddit was of little help other than telling me what I already knew (Yeah, the CPU_FAN1 is PWM and controls the fans as needed based on monitored temps, probably shouldn't have messed with anything in retrospect). Good news is though, is that Corsair approved my RMA for it despite it being user error, and even admitting to it to them lol. So I ordered a low profile heatsink which should get here Friday. I was also idiotic in thinking that this top notch water cooler would be infallible and threw away my stock heatsink.
Also I'll call Corsair Friday and see if there's any tech troubleshooting I can go through before mailing it off to them. As you said, temps are perfectly acceptable, granted inconsistent. So what I'm thinking is I threw off whatever it was that keeps the pump and fans operating efficiently based on temps.
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By Fenrir.Schutz 2014-11-27 01:15:28
Art, maybe ask Mariane about it (I am not sure if Leo comes on FFXI much but probably does...I know he's still addicted to his mules.) :p
But from my lay-person's take on it, it could be the standard Mariane answer ("Maybe it's the power supply!") :) It could be something as simple as your power supply not being sufficient to support all of the peripheral components, thus causing some to not register on start-up or to flicker out during load.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-27 01:18:10
Yeah, I was thinking the PSU may not be putting enough juice out for the pump but if that's the case then you should be having other issues as well.
I mean there should be a way to test just the pump, but as never having messed with one, not sure.
By Artemicion 2014-11-27 01:18:12
Art, maybe ask Mariane about it (I am not sure if Leo comes on FFXI much but probably does...I know he's still addicted to his mules.) :p
But from my lay-person's take on it, it could be the standard Mariane answer ("Maybe it's the power supply!") :) It could be something as simple as your power supply not being sufficient to support all of the peripheral components, thus causing some to not register on start-up of to flicker out during load.
That was reddit's first assumption, but bear in mind everything was fully operational for many months before I decided to go full retard and mess with external fan controllers to fans that were attached to the pump while being already maintained by the PWM.
But it's definitely worth testing. Perhaps it's just a crappy SATA power cord, so I'll see if I have a second cable and PSU to fiddle with.
By Jetackuu 2014-11-27 01:23:06
I'd have to see how many pins that thing has, and you may have put it on a bit screwy, if it's got it's own controls then it should just have 5v and ground (assuming it's 5, I really should pay attention more to the standard plugs on a mobo) but as fans are usually 5v or 12v, I'll think 5v for that, just for the sake of it, but it doesn't matter + and ground (well as long as the fan is the same voltages).
But as a pot is a divider and not an amp, you won't be able to put more on there than what you start with, unless the pot has more potential difference from another connector.
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2014-11-27 01:23:29
Water pumps in a closed loop cooler are not meant to be run at variable speeds.
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By Jetackuu 2014-11-27 01:24:18
Water pumps in a closed loop cooler are not meant to be run at variable speeds.
Hi RP and I would think not, but I imagine the fans are, and it's hard to tell what exactly happened without pictures.
By Artemicion 2014-11-27 01:25:55
Water pumps in a closed loop cooler are not meant to be run at variable speeds.
What I meant is my CPU_FAN1 input is PWM, thus adjusts the RPMs of attached fans accordingly as regulated by my pump. What I'm thinking happened is while fiddling with the fan controllers from the outside, I either inadvertently adjusted voltage or overrode the pump's regulation.
One thing's for sure, everything was peaches and gravy up until I shorted out my entire PC while touching that controller. My heart sank so bad when everything instantly shut off. All from touching a stupid switch -.-
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2014-11-27 01:26:01
Water pumps in a closed loop cooler are not meant to be run at variable speeds.
Hi RP and I would think not, but I imagine the fans are, and it's hard to tell what exactly happened without pictures. The thing about splitters is that it doesn't tell the current to only feed more power to one, it will do it to both. Pumps run at a constant speed, while fans can be controlled via voltage.
I think Arte blew out the pump motor changing its speed.
edit: Blew out not actually meaning asploded or anything, just shorted out.
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This is a thread that I found on another website I post at. It can be really really interesting. I thought it deserved a place here.
Post your random thoughts for the day here, or anything else that intrigues you.
For starters, is it possible to give constructive critism to someone who doesn't have a neck? I totally just walked by a girl who didn't. Someone isn't getting a necklace for Valentines day!
And who decided black and white can't be colors? I want to say a racist. I really do.
Inb4thisthreadgetsreallywtf
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