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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 12:41:05
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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
because nobody few people get my name right
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
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because nobody gets my name right
why, ***-faced ***started Jetabitch doesn't tickle your fancy?
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By Odin.Liela 2011-01-07 12:42:49
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I'm a bit late to the conversation, but I have had experience with both types of discipline. My parents divorced when I was 3 years old, so for several years I lived at two separate homes with two separate styles.

My mom and stepfather spanked me when I did bad things. When I was very naughty, I was slapped across the mouth.

My dad and stepmother guilt tripped when I did bad things. I was never spanked at their house, but I was scolded and guilted a LOT. It took me years after I stopped seeing them to get over saying sorry to everyone about everything.

I wish very much that my dad and stepmother had just spanked me when I deserved it instead of guilting me. The pain is very mild, I can't recall a time that a spanking actually hurt more than a few moments. It got the point across quicker than the guilt trips and made me less likely to be bad again than the guilt trips, PLUS the spankings didn't take years to get over like the guilt trips. They took five or ten minutes to get over.

Anyways, long story short, having experienced both types of discipline I very much prefer the spanking method. I don't know that I will ever have children, but if I do, I would prefer to give them small spanks for bad behavior if they respond better to that.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-01-07 12:43:04
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Also this is the list Jet is talking about, I think:

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Where corporal punishment in the home is outlawed

Corporal punishment of children by parents, is unlawful in the following countries[1] -

* Austria - since 1989
* Bulgaria - since 2000
* Croatia - since 1999
* Costa Rica - since 2008
* Cyprus - since 1994
* Denmark - since 1997
* Finland - since 1983
* Germany - since 2000
* Greece - since 2007
* Hungary - since 2004
* Iceland - since 2003
* Israel - since 2000
* Kenya - since 2010
* Latvia - since 1998
* Luxembourg - since 2008
* Moldova - since 2009
* Netherlands - since 2007
* New Zealand - since 2007, when the Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 came into effect. However, a non-binding citizen-initiated referendum on corporal punishment in August 2009 produced a large majority against the ban. A private member's bill was then introduced to Parliament to overturn the ban, but it failed at first reading: see New Zealand corporal punishment referendum, 2009.
* Norway - since 1987 [3](The Supreme court ruled in 2005 that a light "careful slap" applied immediately after the "offence" is still allowed.[4] Legislature abolished this in 2010, and the current law is that any violence against children, including careful slaps, is prohibited.[5])
* Poland - since 2010
* Portugal - since 2007
* Romania - since 2004
* Sweden - Parents' right to spank their own children was first removed in 1966,[6] and it was explicitly prohibited by law from July 1979.
* Spain - since 2007
* Tunisia - since 2010 [7]
* Ukraine - since 2004
* Uruguay - since 2007
* Venezuela - since 2007

The penalties vary by country. In Sweden, for example, corporal punishment does not necessarily carry a criminal penalty unless it meets the criteria for assault.[6]

In Brazil, a law banning corporal punishment is being considered.[8]
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 12:44:06
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
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The Minnesota Supreme court has ruled that spanking is NOT child abuse.

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The Minnesota Supreme Court ruled Friday that a father who spanked his 12-year-old son 36 times with a maple paddle did not commit physical abuse.

The unanimous ruling finalized the reversal of a lower court's decision, which did deem the punishment administered by Shawn Fraser of Bloomington, Minn., abusive.

The case passed through 3 courts – county, district and state Supreme – while lawyers and judges argued whether there was any evidence of physical or mental harm from the spankings.

The guardian ad litem, an attorney appointed to represent the children's interests, argued that while there was no evidence of injury, inflicting pain should be grounds enough for establishing abuse.

The Supreme Court disagreed.

"We are unwilling to establish a bright-line rule that the infliction of any pain constitutes either physical injury or physical abuse, because to do so would effectively prohibit all corporal punishment of children by their parents," Justice Alan Page wrote for the court.

The law allows "reasonable discipline," the ruling said, and "it is clear to us that the Legislature did not intend to ban corporal punishment."
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yeah, I see it going to the supreme court, want to take bets?
Citing legal precedent, they will rule in the same manor, not abuse.
no, no they won't
Precedent: In common law legal systems, a precedent or authority is a legal case establishing a principle or rule that a court or other judicial body may utilize when deciding subsequent cases with similar issues or facts.
So in the way our court systems work, yes they would.

I highly doubt this would even go to court, or even be reported as abuse by anyone in the family. Sure there could be some nut case who saw the video and tries to report it, but corporal punishment at home is legal in the U.S.
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I was talking about the case of the guy with the paddle, if they managed to take it to supreme court (the next step, no?) the previous ruling wouldn't matter as they'd make their own ruling either eliminating that ruling, or agreeing with it. Then that would make take precedent. But I know what you're saying with this kids case, but if it's a different state it won't hold much water.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 12:46:33
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Also this is the list Jet is talking about, I think:

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Where corporal punishment in the home is outlawed

Corporal punishment of children by parents, is unlawful in the following countries[1] -

* Austria - since 1989
* Bulgaria - since 2000
* Croatia - since 1999
* Costa Rica - since 2008
* Cyprus - since 1994
* Denmark - since 1997
* Finland - since 1983
* Germany - since 2000
* Greece - since 2007
* Hungary - since 2004
* Iceland - since 2003
* Israel - since 2000
* Kenya - since 2010
* Latvia - since 1998
* Luxembourg - since 2008
* Moldova - since 2009
* Netherlands - since 2007
* New Zealand - since 2007, when the Crimes (Substituted Section 59) Amendment Act 2007 came into effect. However, a non-binding citizen-initiated referendum on corporal punishment in August 2009 produced a large majority against the ban. A private member's bill was then introduced to Parliament to overturn the ban, but it failed at first reading: see New Zealand corporal punishment referendum, 2009.
* Norway - since 1987 [3](The Supreme court ruled in 2005 that a light "careful slap" applied immediately after the "offence" is still allowed.[4] Legislature abolished this in 2010, and the current law is that any violence against children, including careful slaps, is prohibited.[5])
* Poland - since 2010
* Portugal - since 2007
* Romania - since 2004
* Sweden - Parents' right to spank their own children was first removed in 1966,[6] and it was explicitly prohibited by law from July 1979.
* Spain - since 2007
* Tunisia - since 2010 [7]
* Ukraine - since 2004
* Uruguay - since 2007
* Venezuela - since 2007

The penalties vary by country. In Sweden, for example, corporal punishment does not necessarily carry a criminal penalty unless it meets the criteria for assault.[6]

In Brazil, a law banning corporal punishment is being considered.[8]
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I liked Norway's the best, but then they reruled it. A careful slap is much different than a spanking, but still depends on the offense. As for the nations that are, I am suprised some by the South American ones.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-01-07 12:47:28
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Shiva.Flionheart said:

Calling other countries worthless, sport?

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Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Ifrit.Kungfuhustle said:
because nobody gets my name right
why, ***-faced ***started Jetabitch doesn't tickle your fancy?

nope
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Odin.Liela said:
I'm a bit late to the conversation, but I have had experience with both types of discipline. My parents divorced when I was 3 years old, so for several years I lived at two separate homes with two separate styles.

My mom and stepfather spanked me when I did bad things. When I was very naughty, I was slapped across the mouth.

My dad and stepmother guilt tripped when I did bad things. I was never spanked at their house, but I was scolded and guilted a LOT. It took me years after I stopped seeing them to get over saying sorry to everyone about everything.

I wish very much that my dad and stepmother had just spanked me when I deserved it instead of guilting me. The pain is very mild, I can't recall a time that a spanking actually hurt more than a few moments. It got the point across quicker than the guilt trips and made me less likely to be bad again than the guilt trips, PLUS the spankings didn't take years to get over like the guilt trips. They took five or ten minutes to get over.

Anyways, long story short, having experienced both types of discipline I very much prefer the spanking method. I don't know that I will ever have children, but if I do, I would prefer to give them small spanks for bad behavior if they respond better to that.


quite frankly it doesn't matter what you prefer, the physical assault was still abuse and the worse method
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By Odin.Liela 2011-01-07 12:50:06
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Odin.Liela said:
I'm a bit late to the conversation, but I have had experience with both types of discipline. My parents divorced when I was 3 years old, so for several years I lived at two separate homes with two separate styles.

My mom and stepfather spanked me when I did bad things. When I was very naughty, I was slapped across the mouth.

My dad and stepmother guilt tripped when I did bad things. I was never spanked at their house, but I was scolded and guilted a LOT. It took me years after I stopped seeing them to get over saying sorry to everyone about everything.

I wish very much that my dad and stepmother had just spanked me when I deserved it instead of guilting me. The pain is very mild, I can't recall a time that a spanking actually hurt more than a few moments. It got the point across quicker than the guilt trips and made me less likely to be bad again than the guilt trips, PLUS the spankings didn't take years to get over like the guilt trips. They took five or ten minutes to get over.

Anyways, long story short, having experienced both types of discipline I very much prefer the spanking method. I don't know that I will ever have children, but if I do, I would prefer to give them small spanks for bad behavior if they respond better to that.


quite frankly it doesn't matter what you prefer, the physical assault was still abuse and the worse method


Worse to have 5 minutes MAX of very mild stinging sensation than years of feeling guilty and insecure about everything? :-( I will have to agree to disagree with you on that one.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 12:50:49
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I am going to start seriously considering moving to Norway, anyone know anyone who lives there? or anyone live there?
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-01-07 12:51:46
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Odin.Liela said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Odin.Liela said:
I'm a bit late to the conversation, but I have had experience with both types of discipline. My parents divorced when I was 3 years old, so for several years I lived at two separate homes with two separate styles.

My mom and stepfather spanked me when I did bad things. When I was very naughty, I was slapped across the mouth.

My dad and stepmother guilt tripped when I did bad things. I was never spanked at their house, but I was scolded and guilted a LOT. It took me years after I stopped seeing them to get over saying sorry to everyone about everything.

I wish very much that my dad and stepmother had just spanked me when I deserved it instead of guilting me. The pain is very mild, I can't recall a time that a spanking actually hurt more than a few moments. It got the point across quicker than the guilt trips and made me less likely to be bad again than the guilt trips, PLUS the spankings didn't take years to get over like the guilt trips. They took five or ten minutes to get over.

Anyways, long story short, having experienced both types of discipline I very much prefer the spanking method. I don't know that I will ever have children, but if I do, I would prefer to give them small spanks for bad behavior if they respond better to that.


quite frankly it doesn't matter what you prefer, the physical assault was still abuse and the worse method


Worse to have 5 minutes MAX of very mild stinging sensation than years of feeling guilty and insecure about everything? :-( I will have to agree to disagree with you on that one.

yeah, don't blame your physiological disorders on your inability to stand getting yelled at.
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By Sylph.Oddin 2011-01-07 12:51:50
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For Jet:

These nations have abolished corporal punishment of children in the family:

Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Norway
Austria
Cyprus
Croatia
Latvia
Israel
Germany
Bulgaria
Iceland
Romania
Ukraine
Hungary
Greece
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
Uruguay
Venezuela
Spain
Costa Rica
Republic of Moldova
Luxembourg
Liechtenstein
Tunisia
Poland
Kenya

Mostly European countries. No Asian countries. Handful of African and South American countries. No real surprises (except there's a country named Cyprus. Didn't know that. Themoreyouknow.jpg)
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Sylph.Oddin said:
For Jet:

These nations have abolished corporal punishment of children in the family:

Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Norway
Austria
Cyprus
Croatia
Latvia
Israel
Germany
Bulgaria
Iceland
Romania
Ukraine
Hungary
Greece
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
Uruguay
Venezuela
Spain
Costa Rica
Republic of Moldova
Luxembourg
Liechtenstein
Tunisia
Poland
Kenya

Mostly European countries. No Asian countries. Handful of African and South American countries. No real surprises (except there's a country named Cyprus. Didn't know that. Themoreyouknow.jpg)

already saw it but ok, and yeah nothing real surprising in that list
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-01-07 12:58:26
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Sylph.Oddin said:
For Jet:

These nations have abolished corporal punishment of children in the family:

Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Norway
Austria
Cyprus
Croatia
Latvia
Israel
Germany
Bulgaria
Iceland
Romania
Ukraine
Hungary
Greece
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
Uruguay
Venezuela
Spain
Costa Rica
Republic of Moldova
Luxembourg
Liechtenstein
Tunisia
Poland
Kenya

Mostly European countries. No Asian countries. Handful of African and South American countries. No real surprises (except there's a country named Cyprus. Didn't know that. Themoreyouknow.jpg)


yea the usual suspects on that list and additionally some Countries that flion holds very close to his heart such as Moldova, Tunisia and Cyprus

inb4Tweekissuchajerkforcallingthesecountriesworthlessteamamericafuckyeah
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By Odin.Sinharvest 2011-01-07 12:59:22
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Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Odin.Liela said:
Bahamut.Jetackuu said:
Odin.Liela said:
I'm a bit late to the conversation, but I have had experience with both types of discipline. My parents divorced when I was 3 years old, so for several years I lived at two separate homes with two separate styles.

My mom and stepfather spanked me when I did bad things. When I was very naughty, I was slapped across the mouth.

My dad and stepmother guilt tripped when I did bad things. I was never spanked at their house, but I was scolded and guilted a LOT. It took me years after I stopped seeing them to get over saying sorry to everyone about everything.

I wish very much that my dad and stepmother had just spanked me when I deserved it instead of guilting me. The pain is very mild, I can't recall a time that a spanking actually hurt more than a few moments. It got the point across quicker than the guilt trips and made me less likely to be bad again than the guilt trips, PLUS the spankings didn't take years to get over like the guilt trips. They took five or ten minutes to get over.

Anyways, long story short, having experienced both types of discipline I very much prefer the spanking method. I don't know that I will ever have children, but if I do, I would prefer to give them small spanks for bad behavior if they respond better to that.


quite frankly it doesn't matter what you prefer, the physical assault was still abuse and the worse method


Worse to have 5 minutes MAX of very mild stinging sensation than years of feeling guilty and insecure about everything? :-( I will have to agree to disagree with you on that one.

yeah, don't blame your physiological disorders on your inability to stand getting yelled at.

Are you kidding me, are you blaming a child for not being able to stand being yelled at, but think spanking is morally wrong, the hell is wrong with your thinking pattern.
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vid related (kenya):
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:00:46
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Gilgamesh.Tweeek said:
Sylph.Oddin said:
For Jet:

These nations have abolished corporal punishment of children in the family:

Sweden
Finland
Denmark
Norway
Austria
Cyprus
Croatia
Latvia
Israel
Germany
Bulgaria
Iceland
Romania
Ukraine
Hungary
Greece
Netherlands
New Zealand
Portugal
Uruguay
Venezuela
Spain
Costa Rica
Republic of Moldova
Luxembourg
Liechtenstein
Tunisia
Poland
Kenya

Mostly European countries. No Asian countries. Handful of African and South American countries. No real surprises (except there's a country named Cyprus. Didn't know that. Themoreyouknow.jpg)


yea the usual suspects on that list and additionally some Countries that flion holds very close to his heart such as Moldova, Tunisia and Cyprus

inb4Tweekissuchajerkforcallingthesecountriesworthlessteamamericafuckyeah

Oh I already knew you were slightly racist.
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Ramuh.Scizor said:
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
But whipping someone with a belt more than a dozen times = ALSO bad parenting.

As a kid my father used to belt me when I got in trouble and I thank him for it. The level of discipline with the current generation of teenagers/kids is so low more parents should follow this guys example.

I was never disciplined(aka spanked sent to my room etc) as a child and I'm respectful, follow the rules, and whatnot.

Where my brother would be spanked, then go right back to doing what he wasn't suppose to.

My point is sometimes it's not because of lack of effort on the parents part, or laziness as some of you had said.
It just comes down to the person, my brother was a *** up, even tho he got punished more than I did, I'm not a *** up, even tho I was rarely punished, if at all.

Tl;dr Discipline is great, but it doesn't work on everyone, there are those people who will ignore it for the most part.
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Well in the U.K. :

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In the UK, spanking or smacking is legal, but it may not leave a mark on the body, and in Scotland since October 2003 it has been illegal to use any implements when disciplining a child. The total abolition of corporal punishment has been discussed.[15] In a 2004 survey, 71% of the population would support a ban on parents smacking their children.[16] In a 2006 survey, 80% of the population said they believed in smacking, and 73% said that they believed that any ban would cause a sharp deterioration in children's behaviour. Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.[17]
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Liela, I'm sorry that you had to endure both physical and emotional abuse as a child. That really really sucks.

But choosing between the two is akin to choosing between getting shot in the face or being slowly bled to death by cutting a major blood vessel. Sure, if forced to choose between the two, I guess anyone would choose the gunshot. Who would want to slowly bleed out to death?
Then again, who really would want to be shot in the face? ...

Here's the facts, folks, based on psychological study:

When young people are beaten, their brains learn that beatings are "normal", "harmless", or even "good for you". This causes development in the brain similar to what occurs to victims of "battered wife syndrome".
Furthermore, once violence is hard-wired into a young person's brain, it is permanent. So while a spanking does not "turn someone into a musclebound blood-lusting cretin", as some hyperbolic numskull suggested in this thread, it DOES PERMANENTLY hard-wire the child's brain to accept and condone violence as commonplace, acceptable and "no big deal".

You can not argue against this. It's scientific fact.

Those of you that are advocating for corporal punishment for children, you're all blind and innocent victims of this abuse, so I don't blame you, and I do feel compassion for you. As I said before, you deserved much better, probably.

You can go on praising you fathers for "beating some sense into you" or such drivel. But when you do that, think about the battered-wife syndrome. You're the SAME as the wife who keeps coming back to the man who beats her ... coming back to get more of that good tough lovin'.


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@OP
That is *** quality lmao.
"Don't tell me!"
Getting your ***stomped for bangin' under false pretense is a common occurrence,
he's lucky it was a belt by a loved one.

Classic case of knocking some sense into an individual.
Parents, don't be afraid to raise your hand to your children.
I'm not saying to knuckle box them in the Wal-Mart or what have you but...
There is nothing wrong with a spanking.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:03:28
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Well in the U.K. :

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In the UK, spanking or smacking is legal, but it may not leave a mark on the body, and in Scotland since October 2003 it has been illegal to use any implements when disciplining a child. The total abolition of corporal punishment has been discussed.[15] In a 2004 survey, 71% of the population would support a ban on parents smacking their children.[16] In a 2006 survey, 80% of the population said they believed in smacking, and 73% said that they believed that any ban would cause a sharp deterioration in children's behaviour. Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.[17]
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I don't see the problem with a light spanking. I do think the uncle on the video went too far but I don't know the situation so that's just an opinion based on my own feelings.

I agree with some corporal punishment, as a last resort. People like Jeta forget that it escalates into a spanking, doesn't start as one.
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By Ifrit.Kungfuhustle 2011-01-07 13:03:36
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Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Well in the U.K. :

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In the UK, spanking or smacking is legal, but it may not leave a mark on the body, and in Scotland since October 2003 it has been illegal to use any implements when disciplining a child. The total abolition of corporal punishment has been discussed.[15] In a 2004 survey, 71% of the population would support a ban on parents smacking their children.[16] In a 2006 survey, 80% of the population said they believed in smacking, and 73% said that they believed that any ban would cause a sharp deterioration in children's behaviour. Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.[17]
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oh yeah, because the government knows how to raise kids. *** morons. If you take away the means to discipline children, then the government might as well adopt them all. Next thing you know, they'll ban parents from telling their kids what to do. Before you know it, no form of discipline or guidance will be allowed when it comes to a child, leaving them to do whatever the *** they want.

edit: Soon the country is gonna raise a bunch of *** whiny, pussy children with no sense of responsibility, moral fiber, and discipline.

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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-07 13:04:47
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Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Liela, I'm sorry that you had to endure both physical and emotional abuse as a child. That really really sucks.

But choosing between the two is akin to choosing between getting shot in the face or being slowly bled to death by cutting a major blood vessel. Sure, if forced to choose between the two, I guess anyone would choose the gunshot. Who would want to slowly bleed out to death?
Then again, who really would want to be shot in the face? ...

Here's the facts, folks, based on psychological study:

When young people are beaten, their brains learn that beatings are "normal", "harmless", or even "good for you". This causes development in the brain similar to what occurs to victims of "battered wife syndrome".
Furthermore, once violence is hard-wired into a young person's brain, it is permanent. So while a spanking does not "turn someone into a musclebound blood-lusting cretin", as some hyperbolic numskull suggested in this thread, it DOES PERMANENTLY hard-wire the child's brain to accept and condone violence as commonplace, acceptable and "no big deal".

You can not argue against this. It's scientific fact.

Those of you that are advocating for corporal punishment for children, you're all blind and innocent victims of this abuse, so I don't blame you, and I do feel compassion for you. As I said before, you deserved much better, probably.

You can go on praising you fathers for "beating some sense into you" or such drivel. But when you do that, think about the battered-wife syndrome. You're the SAME as the wife who keeps coming back to the man who beats her ... coming back to get more of that good tough lovin'.



Lol'd at the fact you think a psychological study counts as scientific FACT
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In Australia, corporal punishment of children in the home is legal in every state and territory,[9][10] provided it is "reasonable".

Parents who act unreasonably may be committing an assault.[11][12] The Australian state of Tasmania is continuing to review the state's laws on the matter, and may seek to ban the use of corporal punishment by parents. The matter is also under review in other Australian states. A 2002 public opinion survey suggested the majority view was in support of retaining parents' right to smack with the open hand but not with an implement,[13] although as of 2010, there are no laws against using an implement.

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In Canada, parents may spank their children, but there are several restrictions.

In Canadian Foundation for Children, Youth and the Law v. Canada (2004) the Supreme Court upheld, in a 6-3 decision, the use of "reasonable" force to discipline children, rejecting claims that moderate spanking violated children's rights. However, it stipulated that the person administering the punishment must be a parent or legal guardian, and not a school teacher or other person (i.e. non-parental relatives such as grandparents, aunts, or uncles, as well as babysitters and other caretakers, are banned from spanking); that the force must be used "by way of correction" (sober, reasoned uses of force that address the actual behaviour of the child and are designed to restrain, control or express some symbolic disapproval of his or her behaviour), that the child must be capable of benefiting from the correction (i.e. not under the age of 2 or over 12, etc.), and that the use of force must be "reasonable under the circumstances", meaning that it results neither in harm nor in the prospect of bodily harm. Punishment involving slaps or blows to the head is harmful, the Court held.[14] Use of any implement other than a bare hand is illegal, and "bare-bottom" spanking is also illegal. Provinces also legally have the authority to enact complete bans, although none currently does so.

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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Bismarck.Elanabelle said:
Liela, I'm sorry that you had to endure both physical and emotional abuse as a child. That really really sucks.

But choosing between the two is akin to choosing between getting shot in the face or being slowly bled to death by cutting a major blood vessel. Sure, if forced to choose between the two, I guess anyone would choose the gunshot. Who would want to slowly bleed out to death?
Then again, who really would want to be shot in the face? ...

Here's the facts, folks, based on psychological study:

When young people are beaten, their brains learn that beatings are "normal", "harmless", or even "good for you". This causes development in the brain similar to what occurs to victims of "battered wife syndrome".
Furthermore, once violence is hard-wired into a young person's brain, it is permanent. So while a spanking does not "turn someone into a musclebound blood-lusting cretin", as some hyperbolic numskull suggested in this thread, it DOES PERMANENTLY hard-wire the child's brain to accept and condone violence as commonplace, acceptable and "no big deal".

You can not argue against this. It's scientific fact.

Those of you that are advocating for corporal punishment for children, you're all blind and innocent victims of this abuse, so I don't blame you, and I do feel compassion for you. As I said before, you deserved much better, probably.

You can go on praising you fathers for "beating some sense into you" or such drivel. But when you do that, think about the battered-wife syndrome. You're the SAME as the wife who keeps coming back to the man who beats her ... coming back to get more of that good tough lovin'.



Lol'd at the fact you think a psychological study counts as scientific FACT
Anything he says is FACT, don't you know?
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Leviathan.Chaosx said:
Well in the U.K. :

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In the UK, spanking or smacking is legal, but it may not leave a mark on the body, and in Scotland since October 2003 it has been illegal to use any implements when disciplining a child. The total abolition of corporal punishment has been discussed.[15] In a 2004 survey, 71% of the population would support a ban on parents smacking their children.[16] In a 2006 survey, 80% of the population said they believed in smacking, and 73% said that they believed that any ban would cause a sharp deterioration in children's behaviour. Seven out of ten parents said they themselves use corporal punishment.[17]
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I don't see the problem with a light spanking. I do think the uncle on the video went too far but I don't know the situation so that's just an opinion based on my own feelings.

I agree with some corporal punishment, as a last resort. People like Jeta forget that it escalates into a spanking, doesn't start as one.
then it escalates to hitting, none of it is acceptable
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the only reason wives get battered is because they made the sandwiches wrong. Its not the same as beating kids.
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Sylph.Siccmade said:
@OP
That is *** quality lmao.
"Don't tell me!"
Getting your ***stomped for bangin' under false pretense is a common occurrence,
he's lucky it was a belt by a loved one.

Classic case of knocking some sense into an individual.
Parents, don't be afraid to raise your hand to your children.
I'm not saying to knuckle box them in the Wal-Mart or what have you but...
There is nothing wrong with a spanking.
yes, yes there is
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