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 Fenrir.Terminus
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-12-01 09:21:10
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Impetus (MNK Lv.88 Ability Delay: 5 min. Effect Duration: 3 min.)
Enhances attack and critical hit rate with each successive melee attack you land.

I think it does, although I suppose there could be a cap to it. Either way, sounds like something that we'll be popping just about any time it's up.

If there's no cap to the crit hit rate - and it does say "with each successive melee attack" - Impetus + Hundred Fists, anyone?
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-12-01 09:23:06
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It's probably a .01% increase and will be barely noticeable. :P
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-01 09:24:46
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Ramuh.Laffter said:
It's probably a .01% increase and will be barely noticeable. :P
It's MNK, it'll be plenty potent.
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-12-01 09:26:35
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Ramuh.Laffter said:
It's probably a .01% increase and will be barely noticeable. :P

oh yeah... damn, never thought of that. *** decimals! Crap.
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-12-01 09:29:28
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I think its duration is way too long. Focus/dodge are only 2 mins. War's new JA is 30 secs. This is... 3 mins?!? Unless it does absolutely nothing, it'll be epic.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2010-12-01 09:38:47
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This has the potential to be the biggest boost monk has ever seen. It also could possibly just be a small boost. Either way it's a bonus to overall damage, so yes it's cool.

It's a boost to damage, whether large or small.
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By Odin.Blazza 2010-12-01 09:39:49
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What if it wears off when you miss?
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By Ramuh.Laffter 2010-12-01 09:41:25
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Odin.Blazza said:
What if it wears off when you miss?
Oh man, MNKs everywhere would cry when they pop it and miss the very next attack.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-01 09:42:51
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Looks more like an Enspell II/Auspice type deal.
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By Sylph.Rorrick 2010-12-01 10:08:14
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Sort of looks like that ability they talked about at the Fanfest without the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE TP penalty they were going to attach to it.

Regardless of how potent it is, it won't hurt to have it up. Between this and Berserk you can have an attack boost up fulltime. Same with accuracy between Focus and Aggressor.
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By Titan.Cripnicc 2010-12-01 11:11:31
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Is it too soon to start stacking Acc gear?
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By Bahamut.Serj 2010-12-01 11:15:35
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Titan.Cripnicc said:
Is it too soon to start stacking Acc gear?

Should really be capping acc on most everything =S


Sylph.Rorrick said:
Sort of looks like that ability they talked about at the Fanfest without the HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE TP penalty they were going to attach to it.

Regardless of how potent it is, it won't hurt to have it up. Between this and Berserk you can have an attack boost up fulltime. Same with accuracy between Focus and Aggressor.

Yea, I was psyched when I saw attack +. Mnk got their own berserk. I don't really get a chance to /war often (outside of exp pts, which I'm never in) but it would be awesome to see with berserk.
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By Sylph.Rorrick 2010-12-01 11:18:33
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Titan.Cripnicc said:
Is it too soon to start stacking Acc gear?

Why would you stack accuracy?
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By Titan.Cripnicc 2010-12-01 11:27:55
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"Enhances attack and critical hit rate with each successive melee attack you land."

Thats why u would stack acc. u dont wanna miss

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By Sylph.Rorrick 2010-12-01 11:39:32
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I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-01 11:40:10
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Titan.Cripnicc said:
Is it too soon to start stacking Acc gear?
You weren't capping to begin with?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Natlow 2010-12-01 11:41:14
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Titan.Cripnicc said:
"Enhances attack and critical hit rate with each successive melee attack you land."

Thats why u would stack acc. u dont wanna miss


Whoooooosh!
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By Bahamut.Xslayrx 2010-12-01 11:41:44
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Sylph.Rorrick said:
I'm not entirely sure how to respond to that.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-12-01 11:44:13
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Quetzalcoatl.Natlow said:
Titan.Cripnicc said:
"Enhances attack and critical hit rate with each successive melee attack you land."

Thats why u would stack acc. u dont wanna miss


Whoooooosh!
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By Quetzalcoatl.Natlow 2010-12-01 11:58:56
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:
Quetzalcoatl.Natlow said:
Titan.Cripnicc said:
"Enhances attack and critical hit rate with each successive melee attack you land."

Thats why u would stack acc. u dont wanna miss


Whoooooosh!

He's been 'whooshed', it's gone right over his head. Or have I grossly misunderstood what 'whooshed' is?
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By Fenrir.Terminus 2010-12-01 12:28:52
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I think what's trying to be said is that maybe it resets if you miss. So let me get this straight:

1. The only downside I thought of was a cap (like attack +40 or something) but, then...
2. The increase could be something stupid, like less fractions of decimals of percents, then....
3. What happens if wears off when you miss? Or...
4. It might reset when you miss.

What a downer, ***!

Edit: I took successive to mean that each hit would increase it, but... this might suggest otherwise.
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By Sylph.Rorrick 2010-12-01 12:47:00
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Irrelevant. Your accuracy should have been capped already, without going out of your way. Stacking more is useless.

Been forever since I actually cast one but this ability sounds like Enspell IIs and as far as I remember those don't reset when you miss, they just don't gain strength if you don't connect.
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By Titan.Cripnicc 2010-12-01 13:50:18
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Call me mis-informed but how much acc can u have on a 85 mnk before ur capped?
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By Fairy.Spence 2010-12-01 13:51:36
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Titan.Cripnicc said:
Call me mis-informed but how much acc can u have on a 85 mnk before ur capped?

Depends what you're fighting.
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By Fenrir.Azazael 2010-12-01 14:08:26
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Titan.Cripnicc said:
Call me mis-informed but how much acc can u have on a 85 mnk before ur capped?
inside Abyssea? enough to eat meat.

Oustide Abysea, why?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-12-01 14:21:01
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Odin.Blazza said:
What if it wears off when you miss?
Even if it did, you'd most likely have to miss the entire background. These things usually go by attack round, not by individual attack. Boost, for example. It says "next attack" but works for both punches and wears off.

That being said, you would more likely than not have to miss your entire attack round for it to wear off. W/ capped acc, .05 x .05 = .25% chance of that happening. Even less when you consider double attacks and kicks.
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By Unicorn.Motenten 2010-12-01 14:37:57
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Titan.Cripnicc said:
Call me mis-informed but how much acc can u have on a 85 mnk before ur capped?

One of the better accuracy setups you can have at the moment:

weapon // Tantra
AF3+2/Agasaya/Brutal/Kemas
Usu/hands/Rajas/Ulthalam
back/Black/AF3+2/AF3+2

Weapon: generally won't have acc
Neck: Faith for +6 to +7, Agasaya for +8, PCC for +10
Hands: swap in Sasuke if you need acc for +13
Back: Belenos for +8 or Sharpeye for +12

Along with
Ammo: +6
Ear: +4
Body: +16
Ring: +4
Legs: +10
Feet: +8

So +48, along with ~8 from neck for 56, and the option for up to 25 more from hands/back for up to 81. Can get a bit more from neck (PCC or Ziel) and rings (eg: Toreador).

Base skill: 347 for 332 acc
Dex: Something around 175 in Abyssea with RR atma and Furtherance abyssites for ~87 acc

Total: 475 to 500+ acc before Focus


I estimated a while back that most stuff only needs about 450 acc to cap, give or take. Even if I'm a bit off, it looks like you'd need to be fighting a thf-type mob to really be pressed for accuracy.

Granted not everyone will have the above gearset, but there's enough leeway that it's not a major strain.

EG: Changing to ACP body, no Kemas, Chivalrous Chain, and AF3+1 gear drops the total by 15 points. That's still ~460 acc, which should still be above the cap for most stuff.

The only real limitations are the atma and abyssites. +70 dex between them (not counting Martello bonuses) is 35 acc, which drops you well below the capped threshold to about 425 total. In that case, pizza easily makes up the difference.

Essentially, only a handful of mobs are likely to make you care about accuracy at all, beyond what you'd want to wear anyway.
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By Cerberus.Blazed 2010-12-01 14:42:18
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Its pretty simple.
you use Impetus, and with each successive successful attack your dmg scales upwards. You miss, and your dmg is reset. the JA won't wear off. you will just be back to your base dmg and start out on a new curve. For 3 minutes duration that's basically what it is.

Edit: Can't remember which FF game it was, but there was a weapon that granted this same effect.
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By Sylph.Elgorian 2010-12-02 13:55:07
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By Cerberus.Blazed 2010-12-03 07:21:10
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Sylph.Elgorian said:


damn how'd you find that? lol
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