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Average brds up to the well geared ones.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-10-02 08:36:28
Kirschy said: Victory March now caps~ (Sad Face Here)
Went through and tested it to hell. Victory March now caps at 600 total skill. Very easy to see with decent gear and Lv 85 skills.
Victory March caps at 600 total skill for 96/1024 Haste. (+2 Instrument adds +32/1024 making this total 128/1024 Haste. 12.5% Haste.)
What does this mean for the future of marches?
(Champion's March is just some fictional new march tier I'm using for the purposes of this post.)
Advancing March caps at 64/1024 (96/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [9.375%]
Victory March caps at 96/1024 (128/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [12.5%]
Champion's March will probably cap at 128/1024 (160/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [15.625%]
Right now the non-SV cap for marches:
Victory + Advancing = (128 + 96 = 224/1024 = 21.875% Haste)
Haste Spell + Victory + Advancing = (224 + 150 = ~35.5% Haste)
SV'd Victory + Advancing is exactly 43.75%, the Magic Haste Cap. (No need for Haste Spell.)
Currently +2 is the highest march instrument available. Assuming SE will release a +3 instrument in the future and hopefully Gjallar trials, the following will work:
Advancing March: 64 + 48 = 112/1024 = 10.94% Haste
Victory March: 96 + 48 = 144/1024 = 14.06% Haste
Champion's March: 128 + 48 = 17.19% Haste
Just to add: Lv 85 BRD has 560 total natural skill. You only need 40 skill from either merits or eq to cap. Pretti much any BRD can cap now, and next update every BRD will be capped.
They better release them non offensive relic trials pretty quick, because someone is losing it's thunder. I'm looking at you
Source info: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/99367-Victory-March-now-caps-%28Sad-Face-Here%29?p=4152396#post4152396
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-02 08:39:26
Sooo, the good news is I can take out my BRD merits and finally do Enfeeb/Elemental, right?
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-10-02 08:41:13
Leviathan.Niniann said: Sooo, the good news is I can take out my BRD merits and finally do Enfeeb/Elemental, right? Unless they remove that cap, pretty much.
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-02 08:41:42
Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sooo, the good news is I can take out my BRD merits and finally do Enfeeb/Elemental, right? Unless they remove that cap, pretty much.
*** yeah.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-10-02 08:42:13
You should upgrade relic horn yo
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-02 08:45:11
Permabrd would make me so sad. :(
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2010-10-02 08:54:39
Ninian makes a lovely DNC.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-10-02 08:55:15
Well that's the thing. She wouldn't have to perma brd w/ Ghorn, only the ones w/ all the +3 instruments~
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By Leviathan.Niniann 2010-10-02 09:00:30
:D
*hides Elegy+3 Horn in her satchel*
You didn't see that.
By Nehalania 2010-10-02 10:01:58
*sigh*
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By Ragnarok.Alaron 2010-10-04 14:37:55
Sigh indeed.
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By Lakshmi.Hypnotizd 2010-10-04 14:40:21
Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sooo, the good news is I can take out my BRD merits and finally do Enfeeb/Elemental, right? Unless they remove that cap, pretty much.
*** yeah. 
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2010-10-04 16:44:02
Lakshmi.Hypnotizd said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Leviathan.Niniann said: Sooo, the good news is I can take out my BRD merits and finally do Enfeeb/Elemental, right? Unless they remove that cap, pretty much.
*** yeah. LOL
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-14 22:36:33
Well I kinda started playing today and I am COMPLETELY and utterly lost when it comes to BRD gear now. I'm not sure what Atma you'd use or anything or optimal gear with said Atma...
God damn it, anyone know for an updated BRD guide?
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-14 22:39:06
cheers, I'm way behind though, my MNK gear was crap before these updates and my BRD gear was mediocre. I'm not even sure if a Sha'ir manteel is worth it any more with Atma.
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By Carbuncle.Axle 2010-12-14 23:07:43
Shiva.Flionheart said: cheers, I'm way behind though, my MNK gear was crap before these updates and my BRD gear was mediocre. I'm not even sure if a Sha'ir manteel is worth it any more with Atma.
AF3 is your 1st stop i'd say. movement speed feet, af3 legs HQ+2 is ballad+1, new horn that's ballad +1. And make sure you can land elegy on mobs that are weak to it.
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By Siren.Flunklesnarkin 2010-12-14 23:15:13
My brd isn't the most awesome in the world.. but some nice gear has come out thats pretty cheap..
here are a couple new pieces
quire grip 8K >>> singing skill +3
mesmeric cape 100k >>>> chr +8 magic acc +4
I been using atma of thrashing tendrils (+30 chr) and atma of the deep devourer for my brd (song cast -20%)...
both of the nm's that drop the atma are fairly weak and can be soloed easy enough by the right jobs.
i'm not at the song fast cast cap (i haven't felt the need to go out and spend a billion gil on all the new hp convert stuff for my minstrel's ring) so thats the reason i use the song speed one >_>
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-12-14 23:23:39
atma of razed ruins for DD brd during song downtime or atma of minikin monstrosity for /whm or /rdm curage would benefit you a lot more than +30 chr atma, considering I have rarely seen a good bard get resists in abyssea.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2010-12-14 23:24:12
Also you can just cancel cruor hp buff and shabam you have menstraul ring working, no gears needed
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-14 23:25:07
Siren.Flunklesnarkin said: My brd isn't the most awesome in the world.. but some nice gear has come out thats pretty cheap..
here are a couple new pieces
quire grip 8K >>> singing skill +3
mesmeric cape 100k >>>> chr +8 magic acc +4
I been using atma of thrashing tendrils (+30 chr) and atma of the deep devourer for my brd (song cast -20%)...
both of the nm's that drop the atma are fairly weak and can be soloed easy enough by the right jobs.
i'm not at the song fast cast cap (i haven't felt the need to go out and spend a billion gil on all the new hp convert stuff for my minstrel's ring) so thats the reason i use the song speed one >_>
Cheers for that list, that should help tons. I was thinking Deep devourer, But I was wondering if the Macc one is any good too. I saw no skill atma, few refresh ones so I don't the the Sha'ir (in abyssea) is as good any more seeing as you can hit 25% with ease with that Atma.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-12-14 23:26:11
Carbuncle.Axle said: Shiva.Flionheart said: cheers, I'm way behind though, my MNK gear was crap before these updates and my BRD gear was mediocre. I'm not even sure if a Sha'ir manteel is worth it any more with Atma.
AF3 is your 1st stop i'd say. movement speed feet, af3 legs HQ+2 is ballad+1, new horn that's ballad +1. And make sure you can land elegy on mobs that are weak to it.
I'm gonna start on that. I've never had elegy not hit often so I think I'll be ok as long as I can keep near cap.
Kirschy said: Victory March now caps~ (Sad Face Here)
Went through and tested it to hell. Victory March now caps at 600 total skill. Very easy to see with decent gear and Lv 85 skills.
Victory March caps at 600 total skill for 96/1024 Haste. (+2 Instrument adds +32/1024 making this total 128/1024 Haste. 12.5% Haste.)
What does this mean for the future of marches?
(Champion's March is just some fictional new march tier I'm using for the purposes of this post.)
Advancing March caps at 64/1024 (96/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [9.375%]
Victory March caps at 96/1024 (128/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [12.5%]
Champion's March will probably cap at 128/1024 (160/1024 /w +2 Instrument) [15.625%]
Right now the non-SV cap for marches:
Victory + Advancing = (128 + 96 = 224/1024 = 21.875% Haste)
Haste Spell + Victory + Advancing = (224 + 150 = ~35.5% Haste)
SV'd Victory + Advancing is exactly 43.75%, the Magic Haste Cap. (No need for Haste Spell.)
Currently +2 is the highest march instrument available. Assuming SE will release a +3 instrument in the future and hopefully Gjallar trials, the following will work:
Advancing March: 64 + 48 = 112/1024 = 10.94% Haste
Victory March: 96 + 48 = 144/1024 = 14.06% Haste
Champion's March: 128 + 48 = 17.19% Haste
Just to add: Lv 85 BRD has 560 total natural skill. You only need 40 skill from either merits or eq to cap. Pretti much any BRD can cap now, and next update every BRD will be capped.
They better release them non offensive relic trials pretty quick, because someone is losing it's thunder. I'm looking at you
Source info: http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/99367-Victory-March-now-caps-%28Sad-Face-Here%29?p=4152396#post4152396
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