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By ryfen 2010-09-27 09:06:58
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Dislike....
Bloody subligars on Roegadyn's...being a Lalafel, its a disturbing site from your point of view, and got forbid you run into all that meat...
I think they need to add a search function for the retainer/ward system or categorize each floor for armor, food, etc...so we know where to go to find what we need or something...

Likes...
Subligar on Miqo'te...god being short pays off! XD
Course what everyone else has mentioned for likes.

Btw...what server did everyone from Asura join >.>
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By Leviathan.Kiishim 2010-09-27 09:43:07
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Likes: the scenery

Dislikes: repair
Repair
Repair
Repair
Repair
Repair
Oh, and repair.
Repair is quite possibly the most annoying thing about this game. I absolutely hate it more than anything. So sick of having to buy mats and crafting weapons for each piece of my gear, and it's only going to get worse as we level. This is the biggest factor in me wanting to just stop playing.
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By Bismarck.Osaia 2010-09-27 09:51:17
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Likes: looks great.
Dislikes: Everything else. This game is complicated and cryptic beyond belief. Maybe overwhelming is a better word.
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 09:59:24
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Bismarck.Osaia said:
Likes: looks great.
Dislikes: Everything else. This game is complicated and cryptic beyond belief. Maybe overwhelming is a better word.

you must have never played XI back in the day. This is 100x easier to figure out than XI
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By Kujata.Akeda 2010-09-27 10:07:36
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I think 11 is way more cryptic, when you start a new char it's just 'Ohh hey you're in Windurst now. k bye'. In 14 you at least get some kind of tutorial and the starting quest gives you a nice tour of the city and some starting money.


Likes
Guild/craft leves <3 <3
Free spells!
More involved crafting system
Graphics <3
Teleporting
No more sitting down for 30 secs before you start recovering hp
No more EXP loss :D
It's far more adventure friendly and less of a hardcore grind. If you wanted to go explore, you wouldn't get penalized for it.
Being able to wear anything

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Repair
Guildleve 36 hour-ish limit
Confusing Item terms and hidden effects
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-27 10:11:34
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Bismarck.Osaia said:
Likes: looks great.
Dislikes: Everything else. This game is complicated and cryptic beyond belief. Maybe overwhelming is a better word.

you must have never played XI back in the day. This is 100x easier to figure out than XI


I agree, I thought the game was actually pretty simple, but I've grown up on convoluted RPG's, and they've colored my taste for these kinds of games to be sure.

I agree with the complaints about the Repair system as well. It might evolve later in the Game's life to facilitate a necessary purge of raw materials, and stir the economy, but right now, it's just a tedious step preventing players from getting into the game.

Honestly, a good middle ground would be to have Repairs only require Crafting skill and Crystal shards, instead of random materials that can be a nightmare to track down.


I really don't have too many complaints other than that, there are some little things, but they tend to be negligible in my eyes, part of the tiny imperfections that make you know a Human Being worked on the game, instead of some hyper advanced entertainment generator, perfectly facilitating your every need.
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 10:13:51
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Oh about the exp loss, i think there will be exp loss, just not at this low level. Else what is the purpose of the onion helm.
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By Asura.Dameshi 2010-09-27 10:15:17
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Oh about the exp loss, i think there will be exp loss, just not at this low level. Else what is the purpose of the onion helm.
Onion helm makes weakness go away in 1.5 min instead of 5 min. Nothing to do with exp loss.
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 10:17:18
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oh damn did i completely misread that? The whole time i've been thinking it was referring to exp loss....

i like the onion helm a ***load more now.
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By Asura.Funkatron 2010-09-27 10:31:30
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There were only a couple things about this game i disliked: The first being that my my computer couldnt handle it, So i had to turn the settings really low. The game still looked really good at that point, but im not looking forward to buying a new graphics card to play a game. The second would be the retainer system. Old Gripe, Heard it all before, and i agree with the general concencus that a simple search function would do wonders. Other than that the game is really solid, and from what it sounds like all around this site is that ppl waited 20+ hours for the dl, got it, had to deal with how slow it was if your computer wasnt that great, got to control their character and since all the controls werent the same as ffxi they said,"WTF too hard." and didnt play anymore.
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By Asura.Funkatron 2010-09-27 10:43:07
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
oh damn did i completely misread that? The whole time i've been thinking it was referring to exp loss.... i like the onion helm a ***load more now.

I think the Goggles that give you more skill and rank ups are better
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By Sylph.Tibze 2010-09-27 10:55:01
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Seriously this game was released at least 3 months too early. SE better bust a$$ to improve it's faults otherwise FF14 will be classified as the next Aion flop.
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By Asura.Funkatron 2010-09-27 11:01:23
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Sylph.Tibze said:
Seriously this game was released at least 3 months too early. SE better bust a$$ to improve it's faults otherwise FF14 will be classified as the next Aion flop.

Did You actaully play it? Cuz most ppl that play it enjoy it.
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-27 11:14:33
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Sylph.Tibze said:
Seriously this game was released at least 3 months too early. SE better bust a$$ to improve it's faults otherwise FF14 will be classified as the next Aion flop.


At least FFXIV isn't about something gay like angels fighting angels. I think that's a bigger reason for the flop of Aion. If you don't like the atmosphere of an MORPG, you're not gonna stick with it...
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By Bahamut.Aiyana 2010-09-27 11:17:59
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Odin.Zicdeh said:
Sylph.Tibze said:
Seriously this game was released at least 3 months too early. SE better bust a$$ to improve it's faults otherwise FF14 will be classified as the next Aion flop.


At least FFXIV isn't about something gay like angels fighting angels. I think that's a bigger reason for the flop of Aion. If you don't like the atmosphere of an MORPG, you're not gonna stick with it...

More like massively deformed angels fighting midgets with HUGE heads.
Too much freedom of character customization and people will abuse it to further ruin any kind of atmosphere.
 
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By ryfen 2010-09-27 11:24:33
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Sup Funk! Long time bro, what server you on? Hit playing 14 too?
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-09-27 11:38:58
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This is why they offered incentives for people to play both 11 and 14 because they knew they were releasing a unfinished game. Basically all the CE people paid 80$ to play Final beta...SE once again getting over I'm sure they did this on purpose and is just loling. I'm sure 14 won't be a good play until at least around march when they do the xbox release. Instead of releasing it when it was finished se just said fuk it we'll just charge them to play final beta toss them a few ingame items if they play...and even toss in a pair of fancy shoes for those who play both. Hell if they get tired of the bugs and unfinished content in 14 they can just play Abyssea in 11 0.0

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By Asura.Domz 2010-09-27 11:44:10
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Leviathan.Anbu said:
This is why they offered incentives for people to play both 11 and 14 because they knew they were releasing a unfinished game. Basically all the CE people paid 80$ to play Final beta...SE once again getting over I'm sure they did this on purpose and is just loling. I'm sure 14 won't be a good play until at least around march when they do the xbox release. Instead of releasing it when it was finished se just said fuk it we'll just charge them to play final beta toss them a few ingame items if they play...and even toss in a pair of fancy shoes for those who play both. Hell if they get tired of the bugs and unfinished content in 14 they can just play Abyssea in 11 0.0

what xbox release? last i heard they werent doing it cause m$ being greedy ***
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By Fenrir.Jumeya 2010-09-27 11:44:49
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Leviathan.Anbu said:
This is why they offered incentives for people to play both 11 and 14 because they knew they were releasing a unfinished game. Basically all the CE people paid 80$ to play Final beta...SE once again getting over I'm sure they did this on purpose and is just loling. I'm sure 14 won't be a good play until at least around march when they do the xbox release. Instead of releasing it when it was finished se just said fuk it we'll just charge them to play final beta toss them a few ingame items if they play...and even toss in a pair of fancy shoes for those who play both. Hell if they get tired of the bugs and unfinished content in 14 they can just play Abyssea in 11 0.0


I loled at the "Xbox release around march"

ib4 getting flamed, there are currently no plans to release FFXIV on the Xbox due to Microsoft's grip tight fist on Xbox Live
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 11:57:40
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oh damn did i completely misread that? The whole time i've been thinking it was referring to exp loss.... i like the onion helm a ***load more now.

I think the Goggles that give you more skill and rank ups are better

SE explicitly stated the goggles are only going to work to a point, to allow the kids that didnt get 8 days to catch up with those that did.
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-09-27 12:08:15
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Fenrir.Jumeya said:
Leviathan.Anbu said:
This is why they offered incentives for people to play both 11 and 14 because they knew they were releasing a unfinished game. Basically all the CE people paid 80$ to play Final beta...SE once again getting over I'm sure they did this on purpose and is just loling. I'm sure 14 won't be a good play until at least around march when they do the xbox release. Instead of releasing it when it was finished se just said fuk it we'll just charge them to play final beta toss them a few ingame items if they play...and even toss in a pair of fancy shoes for those who play both. Hell if they get tired of the bugs and unfinished content in 14 they can just play Abyssea in 11 0.0


I loled at the "Xbox release around march"

ib4 getting flamed, there are currently no plans to release FFXIV on the Xbox due to Microsoft's grip tight fist on Xbox Live

Dam that sucks I thought it was mentioned they were doing a march release for xbox I probably read wrong I play on PC so i probably wasn't paying close attention...
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-09-27 12:13:06
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Asura.Funkatron said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
oh damn did i completely misread that? The whole time i've been thinking it was referring to exp loss.... i like the onion helm a ***load more now.

I think the Goggles that give you more skill and rank ups are better

SE explicitly stated the goggles are only going to work to a point, to allow the kids that didn't get 8 days to catch up with those that did.

I thought you get the goggles only if you pre-ordered the standard version...that's the only reason I pre-ordered mine I really had no intention of playing anytime soon I was going to wait at least till Christmas. Now you say goggles are not going to work after a certain point. How long did they say the goggles were going to work?
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 12:21:15
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Leviathan.Anbu said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Asura.Funkatron said:
Leviathan.Yokhai said:
oh damn did i completely misread that? The whole time i've been thinking it was referring to exp loss.... i like the onion helm a ***load more now.

I think the Goggles that give you more skill and rank ups are better

SE explicitly stated the goggles are only going to work to a point, to allow the kids that didn't get 8 days to catch up with those that did.

I thought you get the goggles only if you pre-ordered the standard version...that's the only reason I pre-ordered mine I really had no intention of playing anytime soon I was going to wait at least till Christmas. Now you say goggles are not going to work after a certain point. How long did they say the goggles were going to work?

not time related, exp/level related
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 12:23:05
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Leviathan.Anbu said:
This is why they offered incentives for people to play both 11 and 14 because they knew they were releasing a unfinished game. Basically all the CE people paid 80$ to play Final beta...SE once again getting over I'm sure they did this on purpose and is just loling. I'm sure 14 won't be a good play until at least around march when they do the xbox release. Instead of releasing it when it was finished se just said fuk it we'll just charge them to play final beta toss them a few ingame items if they play...and even toss in a pair of fancy shoes for those who play both. Hell if they get tired of the bugs and unfinished content in 14 they can just play Abyssea in 11 0.0


and when you join in around march, we will all be level 50 with a mil plus gear doing endgame. You join early because you want to play the game, its not THAT buggy, just lag and minor annoyances
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-27 12:31:22
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People are waving the "Unfinished product" or "Lolpaidbeta" flag on FFXIV a little too heavily. The only MORPG that wasn't in, what some would call "Paid beta" was World of Warcraft, because Blizzard had the cash to sink that game into a played beta for well over a year. I'm not trying to defend all the ***in FFXIV that should have been fixed Pre-Alpha, but there's a lot of refinements that simply can't be dealt with, without a more long-term time investment by players, we wouldn't even be talking about this if WoW hadn't raised the bar in that regard to such an unrealistic level.
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By Leviathan.Anbu 2010-09-27 12:40:18
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Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Leviathan.Anbu said:
This is why they offered incentives for people to play both 11 and 14 because they knew they were releasing a unfinished game. Basically all the CE people paid 80$ to play Final beta...SE once again getting over I'm sure they did this on purpose and is just loling. I'm sure 14 won't be a good play until at least around march when they do the xbox release. Instead of releasing it when it was finished se just said fuk it we'll just charge them to play final beta toss them a few ingame items if they play...and even toss in a pair of fancy shoes for those who play both. Hell if they get tired of the bugs and unfinished content in 14 they can just play Abyssea in 11 0.0


and when you join in around march, we will all be level 50 with a mil plus gear doing endgame. You join early because you want to play the game, its not THAT buggy, just lag and minor annoyances

lol well I didn't play ffxi until 2007-2008 and I caught up to the guys who played when it first dropped with ease so that doesn't bother me I'd be more pissed to play a game with bugs and glitches lol don't get me wrong I'll probably play b4 march but based on the feed back i'm getting from the CE guys I'm in no rush.
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 12:41:45
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Leviathan.Anbu said:

Leviathan.Yokhai said:
Leviathan.Anbu said:
This is why they offered incentives for people to play both 11 and 14 because they knew they were releasing a unfinished game. Basically all the CE people paid 80$ to play Final beta...SE once again getting over I'm sure they did this on purpose and is just loling. I'm sure 14 won't be a good play until at least around march when they do the xbox release. Instead of releasing it when it was finished se just said fuk it we'll just charge them to play final beta toss them a few ingame items if they play...and even toss in a pair of fancy shoes for those who play both. Hell if they get tired of the bugs and unfinished content in 14 they can just play Abyssea in 11 0.0


and when you join in around march, we will all be level 50 with a mil plus gear doing endgame. You join early because you want to play the game, its not THAT buggy, just lag and minor annoyances

lol well I didn't play ffxi until 2007-2008 and I caught up to the guys who played when it first dropped with ease so that doesn't bother me I'd be more pissed to play a game with bugs and glitches lol don't get me wrong I'll probably play b4 march but based on the feed back i'm getting from the CE guys I'm in no rush.

True depending on play time, it wouldnt be that hard. Its really personal preference. I develop games so playing a slightly buggy game isnt that bad for me.
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By Bismarck.Dierdreh 2010-09-27 12:44:23
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Unless they have changed it sense the BETA, when you died there was no message that popped up and said "Return to Home Point?". The first time I died in XIV nothing popped up- I mean----OPENING the MENU and hitting RETURN!!!??? That never crossed my mind since in XI you can't even access your menu when you are dead. Cryptic as hell. Other than that I find it refreshing but I will probably hold off a year or so before actually buying it. Still needs some work- I mean the game did just come out. I don't expect any new MMO to be great hot off the press.
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By Leviathan.Yokhai 2010-09-27 12:48:14
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Bismarck.Dierdreh said:
Unless they have changed it sense the BETA, when you died there was no message that popped up and said "Return to Home Point?". The first time I died in XIV nothing popped up- I mean----OPENING the MENU and hitting RETURN!!!??? That never crossed my mind since in XI you can't even access your menu when you are dead. Cryptic as hell. Other than that I find it refreshing but I will probably hold off a year or so before actually buying it. Still needs some work- I mean the game did just come out. I don't expect any new MMO to be great hot off the press.

yeah they've changed.
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