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Abyssea NM's and the !!'s list.
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2010-09-22 01:22:13
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Okay, so I'm looking to compile information for the !!'s that the monsters show in Abyssea. I've checked multiple sources, but there's no mass compilation for this list. Even wiki is lacking information for this, nor has a designated spot to add the !! information. As of right now, it looks like every NM can do it, and reward possibly an Atma, along with full drops, IF the !!'s are exposed.
If the mobs end up not having one. I'll put a N/A, or XX in the spots on the graph, but this can still serve as a mass monster list.
I'll break the NM's up by zone, keep editing OP, and troll the thread to find any information people post. Please help me, if your group kills an NM and figure out how to get the !!, let me know on this thread. Also going to list the messages displayed in the chat log, that hinders the monsters performance, known as... stagger?
Thanks for the help.

Abyssea - Misareaux
Monster How to !! Spawn Condition Stagger Abyssite/Key/Atma?
Abyssic Cluster ?? Timed ?? ??/KeyItem/??
Amhuluk Blizzard IV(green !!) Key Item ?? ??/??/??
Asanbosam ?? Timed Spawn ?? ??/KeyItem/??
Athamas ?? Timed Spawn ?? ??/??/??
Avalerion ?? Trade pop ?? ??/??/Atma
Cep-Kamuy ?? Trade Pop ?? ??/??
Cirein-Croin ?? Key Item ?? Abyssite/??/??
Flame Skimmer ?? Timed Spawn ?? Abyssite/??/??
Funereal Apkallu ?? Trade Pop ?? ??/??/??
Gukumatz ?? Timed Pop ?? ??/KeyItem/??
Heqet ?? Timed Pop ?? ??/KeyItem/??
Ironclad Observer ?? Trade Pop ?? ??/KeyItem/??
Ironclad Pulverizer ?? Key Item ?? ??/??/??
Jala ?? Timed Spawn ?? N/A
Karkatakam ?? Trade Pop ?? ??/??/??
Kutharei Drain !! Firesday ?? ??/??/??
Manohra ?? Trade pop ?? ??/??/??

Getting tired, I'll finish compiling the rest tomorrow.
Hope this will work. Enjoy.



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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2010-09-22 01:23:12
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Reserved for original Abyssea area's.
Abyssea - Tahrongi
Abyssea - Konschtat
Khalamari Cross Reaper !!Blue; Blade: Ei !!Red Timed Spawn ?? ??/??/Atma


Abyssea - La Theine
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-09-22 01:30:53
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Cross Reaper triggers blue !! on Khalamari
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By Bahamut.Kymira 2010-09-22 01:32:33
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It doesn't matter.
It changes every time.
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 01:35:08
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Bahamut.Kymira said:
It doesn't matter.
It changes every time.



what?.... !! triggers are standard aren't they?
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By Gilgamesh.Astrida 2010-09-22 01:35:31
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Bahamut.Kymira said:
It doesn't matter.
It changes every time.
this
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By Lakshmi.Galvaya 2010-09-22 01:37:36
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I'll still keep compiling whatever is found until its un-necessary. There might even be a correlation such as job claimed/job !!'s. And then even day of the week or w/e. (Hence the colors?)

Until we find more information i'll keep making this. Worse comes to worse, it'll be a nice table of NM's for a quick reference guide.
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By Bismarck.Rinomaru 2010-09-22 01:39:57
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I've fought Khalimari a few times, koki proc'd !! once.
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By Bahamut.Kymira 2010-09-22 01:44:42
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I fight Whiro about 3+ times a day and have tried every imaginable connection to what procs !! and there isn't one. It's completely random.
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-09-22 01:50:57
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
Bahamut.Kymira said:
It doesn't matter.
It changes every time.



what?.... !! triggers are standard aren't they?

nope. its an elemental weaponskill thats can change every time
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By Phoenix.Airbag 2010-09-22 01:52:58
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welcome to a couple weeks ago
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By Asura.Domz 2010-09-22 01:57:43
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ive seen flash trigger !! on whiro, but cant remember color or which day it was
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 01:59:04
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man thats so weak...i thought that crap was consistent :(
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-22 02:03:22
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To my knowledge it's completely random and only has a chance at that.

I've fought Chukwa where my first 9 Aspir IIs didn't do anything only to have 2 of the final 4 Aspir II casts force yellow/green !! rage.

I've fought mobs where every other Flash from my PLD yellow/green !! raged a mob.

I kinda feel like it's pre-determined list of a few spells/phys. WS/elem. WS once the mob is claimed then it's also a certain percentage at a chance that whatever the game chose will cause the rage.
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By Bahamut.Kymira 2010-09-22 02:08:11
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Asura.Domz said:
ive seen flash trigger !! on whiro, but cant remember color or which day it was
Ive triggered it with Bliz IV on Windsday.
Have also triggered it with Flash.
Got some damn good drops when its triggered too.
Was green !! iirc
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By Ifrit.Eikechi 2010-09-22 02:12:22
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wait, so certain !! weakness triggers cause a rage? does that basically make the mob unkillable?
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By Bahamut.Kymira 2010-09-22 02:16:17
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
wait, so certain !! weakness triggers cause a rage? does that basically make the mob unkillable?
It makes you squish.
The end.
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By Sylph.Deathknight 2010-09-22 02:28:17
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BG Abyssea NM Weaknesses
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By Odin.Zicdeh 2010-09-22 02:53:44
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I have an unfounded theory that the element of the Weapon Skill for !! is based on the day.

We had Cyclone trigger !! on Eccentric Eve and Rasokovnik in the same run, both on Windsday. Someone with a bit more time and energy can test that if it hasn't been debunked already.
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-22 03:02:12
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Ifrit.Eikechi said:
wait, so certain !! weakness triggers cause a rage? does that basically make the mob unkillable?
No.

iirc it's something like:

Blue !! - Caused by random Physical Weapon Skills : Increased Equipment Drop Rate.
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Red !! - Caused by random Elemental Weapon Skills : 100%/increased Atma Drop Rate.
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Yellow/Green !! - Caused by Random Magic : Increased Item Drop Rate on Craftable/Other items [not gear.]
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By Sylph.Sukh 2010-09-22 03:33:44
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After about 8 Ovnis I was able to trigger I believe Red !!s, but that sucker was too big for me to see the colors >_> dropped an atma though.

Used Tachi: Jinpu, and it would give a message saying Ovni was temporarily terrorized or something to that effect. Unfortunately, since that first fight I haven't been able to get it to proc on any other Ovni spawns, so it may be random. :/
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By Ragnarok.Zirael 2010-09-22 04:26:03
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Shiva.Darkshade said:
Ifrit.Eikechi said:
wait, so certain !! weakness triggers cause a rage? does that basically make the mob unkillable?
No. iirc it's something like: Blue !! - Caused by random Physical Weapon Skills : Increased Equipment Drop Rate. ------ Red !! - Caused by random Elemental Weapon Skills : 100%/increased Atma Drop Rate. ------ Yellow/Green !! - Caused by Random Magic : Increased Item Drop Rate on Craftable/Other items [not gear.]
As for Red !!, there are 13 Elemental WS that trigger it, and every time it's a different WS. I have a list at home, so can post it later, for now I can say that none of them is Mythic, Relic or Empyrean. From memory - Dagger: Cyclone+Energy Drain, Katana: Blade:Ei, Polearm: Raiden Thrust, Great Katana: Jinpu+Koki, Sword: 2 WS(can't remember), Club: 1 WS (can't remember), Staff: 2 WS (can't remember), Great Sword: Freezebite, Scythe: Shadow of Death. No other WS anywhere was reported to proc Red !! ever (well, there was 1 report of Energy Steal, but it's likely mixed up with Energy Drain). Cover all of these and you'll get your atma.
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By Shiva.Darkshade 2010-09-22 05:13:15
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Hmm I see. Thanks for the information.