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Coffer is an Illusion
Server: Sylph
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By Sylph.Vandalien 2009-01-31 21:02:14
Its more like this:
If the HNM you are hunting is a 70 hour respawn, SE changes it to a 15 hour respawn, HOWEVER, if you've killed once, you'll have to wait 70 hours to kill it again, otherwise it vanishes as an illusion. MEANWHILE, those who DIDN'T get a chance at the HNM who try to kill it, will be able to. So while it doesn't affect how the HNM remains a 70 hour respawn for the individual/alliance, it is respawning more often for others to get a chance.
The new coffer system means that the coffers respawn more often, but unless you are getting an AF piece or map, you are stuck on the old timer. So if it is just an illusion for you, that means that on the old system, there would be no coffer for you to pick because SOMEONE else already got it.
I think people are just complaining because the faster respawns are getting their hopes up. Aside from AF/Map hunters having more chances, the respawn for treasure HAS NOT CHANGED.
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By Ramuh.Brahmdut 2009-01-31 21:16:27
that's not totally true because i have gone over the timer and still gotten a illusion
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By Sylph.Vandalien 2009-01-31 21:49:47
That presumes you're the only one hunting. If that is the case, then I don't know, perhaps Squeenix's system is a little different. Otherwise, someone else may have opened a coffer for treasure, putting you back at the illusion stage. *shrug* I can only speak to what I've seen and read about it.
Ragnarok.Anye
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-01-31 23:35:32
FFXIclopedia said: There is a different theory regarding the new Treasure Coffer system. Once a person opens a Coffer, and receives an item (either a Quest item, or a gil/prize), a cooldown time period begins. During the cooldown period, all subsequent Coffers which spawn will be "illusionary" Coffers. If a person who is not on a Quest attempts to open an "illusionary" Coffer, the Coffer will disappear, and the person will not receive any gil/prize. The person will still possess their Coffer Key. However, if a person who opens the "illusionary" Coffer IS on a Quest which requires the Coffer, that person WILL receive the Quest-related item. In other words, during the cooldown period, only players on relevant Quests are eligible to receive items from the "illusionary" Coffers. After the cooldown period expires, any existing "illusionary" Coffer in the zone reverts to a "real" Coffer. People who are not on a Quest can receive gil/prize from "real" Coffers only. I am pretty sure this is a measure the STFU has initiated in order to keep RMT from camping coffers for gil. The reason why those without quests flagged are unable to open coffers, even if they haven't opened a coffer, is probably because RMTs would be able to send out mule after mule after mule to the same areas every 5 minutes to locate coffers and obtain an item or gil prize. That, and one RMT would not be able to run to different zones to open coffers in different areas. But this is all just speculation--I'm making a guess from what I've read. Don't take my word for it~
Cerberus.Radaghast
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By Cerberus.Radaghast 2009-01-31 23:51:58
Xxnumbertwoxx said: Radaghast said: Xxnumbertwoxx said: Do you really think it's fair that a 75 THF can run around and pick them over and over while a 50 something is sneaking and invising around ***that will 2 shot them to try and get ONE? Yes. Stop crying. I had friends that did that as 50 thf. If I recall, I wasn't the one crying about coffers being illusions in the first place... This is true. You were not. My bad.
Caitsith.Neonracer
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By Caitsith.Neonracer 2009-02-01 00:51:22
Hey Anye.. just wanted to say that I like your posts alot, and like all of us, you indeed help many of us who have many questions about the new system SE has put in place for us..
Ugg.. RMTs have certianly fugged it for us good ppl, I loved popping coffers..it was nice... till now....
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By Sylph.Caderyn 2013-01-29 13:04:51
Coffers optional for people that need items? Tell that to bards
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By Asura.Ina 2013-01-29 13:06:06
Fenrir.Mariane
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By Fenrir.Mariane 2013-01-29 17:05:14
Necro - psych !
O_O
Ramuh.Austar
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-01-29 17:08:14
Totally thought this was going to be about the prize powder.
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By Sylph.Winterlight 2025-06-08 14:27:59
Moar Necro Bump!
BRDs and Mage Ballad II
It's a sad song of the illusory coffers along with the Karen-ing of those who don't play BRD demanding Refresh.
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By Genoxd 2025-06-08 15:07:37
I honestly have no idea what you just said.
By Kaffy 2025-06-08 16:33:29
it would be nice if they added vendors for all spells, kind of an outdated concept at this point. if they wanted to curb people from popping coffers on spawn for gil and denying people who were doing AF the chance to get a coffer, fine. but when that same coffer is the only source of a scroll in the entire game, no bueno.
I used to sell ballad2 scrolls frequently, too. can pos to all the coffer spawns in under a minute and potentially make 1m+ for 5k gil investment. risky of course.
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By Dodik 2025-06-08 18:02:43
You're not going to say anything about the 4,513 day necro?
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By Pantafernando 2025-06-08 19:15:12
I though this was about Shamis trove...
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By Pantafernando 2025-06-08 19:16:06
And everything inside this matrix is an illusion.
YOU are an illusion.
By Pantafernando 2025-06-08 19:16:22
Yeah, thats right.
You.
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By Cerberus.Immortalmoon 2025-06-08 23:51:08
the matrix has you
knock
knock
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By Asura.Sensarity 2025-06-09 06:25:52
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By Pantafernando 2025-06-09 08:32:54
I would say that you belong to the majority in this site.
Asura.Saevel
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By Asura.Saevel 2025-06-09 10:01:22
The cake is a lie.
By Dodik 2025-06-09 10:23:56
Average XI multi-boxer:
Anyone know why this happens. I went to pick a coffer and it said "it was but an illusion" It didnt take my key, and no i have not recently opened a chest or coffer anywhere.
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