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Hundred Knives
Gradd we may be debating with a woman, which mean, what ever logic we present, true or not, she will reply with "I'm Better then you, nanny nanny googoo" There is no one you have capped acc on new content using meat on DNC, maybe old content, but who doesn't, especially with your TP gear. Again not trying to sound harsh, but being honest, just no you don't.
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She is a really good dancer...
She plays all aspects of DNC very well. Fenrir.Gradd said: You are the one spitting out *** information thinking you are some god send of a *** DNC that can suddenly do what nobody else can. I mean *** seriously gtfo No but I am competent enough to realize that certain jobs have their limits, you dont NEED to have a job leveled to know how to play it, if you seriously think that you are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE.
*** FFXI is hard to understand :( For example DRK is my favorite job, but I know that I have my limits and that I will NEVER outparse a well geared SAM or WAR that are worth a damn. Is it possible for me to outparse a SAM or WAR? Yes if they *** suck then yea I will outparse them and I have. Same goes for DNC you have your limits and you cannot bypass them no matter how hard you work.
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Fenrir.Mankey said: Gradd we may be debating with a woman, which mean, what ever logic we present, true or not, she will reply with "I'm Better then you, nanny nanny googoo" There is no one you have capped acc on new content using meat on DNC, maybe old content, but who doesn't, especially with your TP gear. Again not trying to sound harsh, but being honest, just no you don't. Fenrir.Gradd said: No but I am competent enough to realize that certain jobs have their limits, you dont NEED to have a job leveled to know how to play it, if you seriously think that you are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. *** FFXI is hard to understand :( For example DRK is my favorite job, but I know that I have my limits and that I will NEVER outparse a well geared SAM or WAR that are worth a damn. Is it possible for me to outparse a SAM or WAR? Yes if they *** suck then yea I will outparse them and I have. Same goes for DNC you have your limits and you cannot bypass them no matter how hard you work. yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Mankey said: Gradd we may be debating with a woman, which mean, what ever logic we present, true or not, she will reply with "I'm Better then you, nanny nanny googoo" There is no one you have capped acc on new content using meat on DNC, maybe old content, but who doesn't, especially with your TP gear. Again not trying to sound harsh, but being honest, just no you don't.
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Fenrir.Mankey said: DRG has the same acc bonus but it doesn't mean you need 0 accuracy gear/food.... ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU ARE DUAL WIELDING, the dude saying you play all aspects of DNC amazingly is probably a pretty lackluster playing himself to think such a thing :( I find it really hard to believe you are able to play at max efficiency with limited gear choices, may play good, but not amazing. Gear is always a factor, its not the end all be all, but to argue it doesn't help at all is childish. chief....breath a lil lol....I know you're on my side of this debate as I'm a sam..but you're comin off pretty harsh mate, so is Gradd...calm down fellas lol yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Gradd said: No but I am competent enough to realize that certain jobs have their limits, you dont NEED to have a job leveled to know how to play it, if you seriously think that you are HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. *** FFXI is hard to understand :( For example DRK is my favorite job, but I know that I have my limits and that I will NEVER outparse a well geared SAM or WAR that are worth a damn. Is it possible for me to outparse a SAM or WAR? Yes if they *** suck then yea I will outparse them and I have. Same goes for DNC you have your limits and you cannot bypass them no matter how hard you work. There is no situation where a Top of the Line Well geared DNC will out parse a Top of the Line well geared Samurai or any Heavy DD for that matter. The fact that you REFUSE to see that just blindly out of pride of your job is what makes you a poor player. Will a well geared DNC out parse a gimp heavy DD? Hey yea its probrably possible, I wont deny that, but even then id expect the DD to be a player lacking skill.
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Forgive me for giving credit where credit is due. It's not my place to tell you her accomplishments but she's done some pretty great things.
Ifrit.Eikechi said: Fenrir.Mankey said: DRG has the same acc bonus but it doesn't mean you need 0 accuracy gear/food.... ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU ARE DUAL WIELDING, the dude saying you play all aspects of DNC amazingly is probably a pretty lackluster playing himself to think such a thing :( I find it really hard to believe you are able to play at max efficiency with limited gear choices, may play good, but not amazing. Gear is always a factor, its not the end all be all, but to argue it doesn't help at all is childish. chief....breath a lil lol....I know you're on my side of this debate as I'm a sam..but you're comin off pretty harsh mate, so is Gradd...calm down fellas lol
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Fenrir.Mankey said: yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Mankey said: Gradd we may be debating with a woman, which mean, what ever logic we present, true or not, she will reply with "I'm Better then you, nanny nanny googoo" There is no one you have capped acc on new content using meat on DNC, maybe old content, but who doesn't, especially with your TP gear. Again not trying to sound harsh, but being honest, just no you don't. Idk if I'd told you this trist but I love that avatar facial expression... you're all like "....w...t....f...." lol its a great shot of who I assume is you hehe.
Lol yeah that's me and that's my face while reading this thread.
Fenrir.Mankey said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: Fenrir.Mankey said: DRG has the same acc bonus but it doesn't mean you need 0 accuracy gear/food.... ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU ARE DUAL WIELDING, the dude saying you play all aspects of DNC amazingly is probably a pretty lackluster playing himself to think such a thing :( I find it really hard to believe you are able to play at max efficiency with limited gear choices, may play good, but not amazing. Gear is always a factor, its not the end all be all, but to argue it doesn't help at all is childish. chief....breath a lil lol....I know you're on my side of this debate as I'm a sam..but you're comin off pretty harsh mate, so is Gradd...calm down fellas lol i asked about an alternate situation because every that HAS argued for sam has made a point about outside buffs. yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Mankey said: yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Mankey said: Gradd we may be debating with a woman, which mean, what ever logic we present, true or not, she will reply with "I'm Better then you, nanny nanny googoo" There is no one you have capped acc on new content using meat on DNC, maybe old content, but who doesn't, especially with your TP gear. Again not trying to sound harsh, but being honest, just no you don't. in all fairness, i argued for non-outside buffs for sam too... :P and lol Trist
Fenrir.Mankey said: You make up for the acc w/ gear you lose potential haste and would parse considerably lower then if you just stuck with haste gear/pizza, I played Ridill WAR probably before you started playing, I know how emo dual wield is, you need acc food can't get around it if you want to stay at full haste which would benefit you greater in the long run actually a dnc can cap haste without the 4% from Rap Harness now with AF3+2... and there is an acc+25 body that dnc can use...so you're point in this post is kind of moot... Fenrir.Mankey said: yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Mankey said: yunalaysca said: Fenrir.Mankey said: Gradd we may be debating with a woman, which mean, what ever logic we present, true or not, she will reply with "I'm Better then you, nanny nanny googoo" There is no one you have capped acc on new content using meat on DNC, maybe old content, but who doesn't, especially with your TP gear. Again not trying to sound harsh, but being honest, just no you don't. Ifrit.Eikechi said: in all fairness, i argued for non-outside buffs for sam too... :P and lol Trist Ifrit.Eikechi said: Fenrir.Mankey said: You make up for the acc w/ gear you lose potential haste and would parse considerably lower then if you just stuck with haste gear/pizza, I played Ridill WAR probably before you started playing, I know how emo dual wield is, you need acc food can't get around it if you want to stay at full haste which would benefit you greater in the long run actually a dnc can cap haste without the 4% from Rap Harness now with AF3+2... and there is an acc+25 body that dnc can use...so you're point in this post is kind of moot... At most ACC Bonus trait makes up for the fact that DNC is still only using a B+ weapon Vs an A+ weapon. DNC is also a Dual Wielding job, it doesnt have the bonus that 2handers have to Dex making it a hell of alot harder to cap ACC. I'm trying to Yuna...I got no personal qualms with your right to argue for Dnc. I just dont think a support DD will ever outdo a job specialized for DD only.... well DD + tanking. Its like Cor vs Rng.. yes Cor has nice buffs, but will NEVER out do a rng in slug shot dmg..its just not possible. (plz don't derail this thread into cor v rng :P)
We could always derail in DNC tanking... NOT!!!!
Lord... Even with this... you would need abyssea to generally keep capped acc in Abyssea, just sayin....
Ifrit.Eikechi said: I'm trying to Yuna...I got no personal qualms with your right to argue for Dnc. I just dont think a support DD will ever outdo a job specialized for DD only.... well DD + tanking. Its like Cor vs Rng.. yes Cor has nice buffs, but will NEVER out do a rng in slug shot dmg..its just not possible. (plz don't derail this thread into cor v rng :P) i may have gone to far by saying dnc can out DD sam. but i will not concede to the fact that dnc is definitely up there as a DD, not only a haste samba *** as half these angry people make it out to be.
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Asura.Tristean said: We could always derail in DNC tanking... NOT!!!! Lord... DNC tanks fine x; Ive seen a DNC tank Ixion was kinda cool, held hate fairly well aswell~ on a side note, (im gonna have to look into making this work) but i just discovered nusku's sash
you're missing 8 acc in gear Mankey and not including a dex+acc+ kila+1, which would more than cap their acc..and haste..
yunalaysca said: Ifrit.Eikechi said: I'm trying to Yuna...I got no personal qualms with your right to argue for Dnc. I just dont think a support DD will ever outdo a job specialized for DD only.... well DD + tanking. Its like Cor vs Rng.. yes Cor has nice buffs, but will NEVER out do a rng in slug shot dmg..its just not possible. (plz don't derail this thread into cor v rng :P) i may have gone to far by saying dnc can out DD sam. but i will not concede to the fact that dnc is definitely up there as a DD, not only a haste samba *** as half these angry people make it out to be. |
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