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By Cerberus.Kengo 2012-06-12 16:30:46
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
back in my day we did normals from level 1 and built 5 sunfires on Garen and liked it!

Back in my day, Nocturne could ult almost the length of the map, and that ***was scary!
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-06-12 16:31:27
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Cerberus.Kengo said: »
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Cerberus.Kengo said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
New rotation woot! Taric's on it, been wanting to try him. 9/0/16 first game with him, seems ok.

Kinda disappointed Draven isn't free this week, new champs usually are Week 2.


Gotta play some real games man. That AI stuff only goes so far.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FIRST THING I THOUGHT OF.... Wait... you had 9 kills on taric? You were doing it wrong.

I wasn't trying to put down AI games, or learning new champions.

Back when I was new at the game, AI wasn't around, and most games I got slaughtered. Then I sat down, poked around online for info on the types of champions, what they can and can't do, and just went from there. I asked a lot of questions.

Meh bots are great for 1 thing... learning how to last hit from lvl 1-3. After that straight to normal, but I do custom matches and *** around with someone else Ik to try things. Like head butting 2 hecarims at each other by dragon. AH GOOD TIMES AARON GOOD TIMES
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-06-12 16:32:13
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Cerberus.Kengo said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
back in my day we did normals from level 1 and built 5 sunfires on Garen and liked it!

Back in my day, Nocturne could ult almost the length of the map, and that ***was scary!

Fiddles........ nuff said.. I used to freak the *** out IRL when I heard a crow lol
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By Bismarck.Rharmony 2012-06-12 17:06:30
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Back in my day Evelyn was useful.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-06-12 17:30:31
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Bismarck.Rharmony said: »
Back in my day Evelyn was useful.

by useful do you mean one of the most OP champs in the game? >.>
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By Bismarck.Rharmony 2012-06-12 17:40:54
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
Bismarck.Rharmony said: »
Back in my day Evelyn was useful.

by useful do you mean one of the most OP champs in the game? >.>

Yes. Useful.
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By Rhaokin 2012-06-12 20:50:06
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Playing Ashe today I was sucking it up, constantly missing ults and generally lacking confidence. I was farming really well though, and stayed optimistic. So we got ganked at bot and I survived, tried to ult someone as they escaped and missed. I was sourly disappointed because we could have killed him. Then it said I got a kill anyways, turns out it went all the way and killed someone at mid!

After busting a gut our Lee Sin said "COME ON MAN, KS'd me!"

So I'm getting into the solo top role more, but what irks me is that people seem to play a lot of champs that are very harsh on "modest" solo tops... People constantly play Sion, Jax, Darius, and Teemo. Darius is actually more manageable than the others now that I know how to play against him, but the others just have stupid ranged harass or near-unavoidable disables that almost ensure a lane win.

The biggest problem with those champs is that they don't do all physical damage, so by the time I've built the resistances to halt their harass I've delayed my core build and can't really beat up enemy carries. (unless I'm Irelia, TWINITY FAWSS) What kind of solution should I look for?
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-12 20:59:22
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Harass back, if you get a solid gank once from jungle you'll be ahead enough to win lane.
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2012-06-12 21:02:22
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soo this is where sock (lolserj) been hideing? :o
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By Fenrir.Tsuji 2012-06-12 21:07:06
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In my humble opinion, the point of solo top is to hold the turret until your team can heave-ho mid or bot lane. After that, the teams usually start roaming a bit and you get a bit more freedom.
When I go solo top, I just play it super passive. I rarely harass back unless I think its perfectly safe to do so. If they decide to turret dive me, I do everything in my power to make them regret it by firing everything I have at them. Granted I never did Ashe solo top mind you, when I do solo top I try to make sure its a pusher champ of sorts (Wukong, Yorick, Irelia, etc).
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-06-12 21:08:51
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Bismarck.Moonlightespada said: »
soo this is where sock (lolserj) been hideing? :o


nope

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By Rhaokin 2012-06-12 21:16:27
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Fenrir.Tsuji said: »
In my humble opinion, the point of solo top is to hold the turret until your team can heave-ho mid or bot lane. After that, the teams usually start roaming a bit and you get a bit more freedom.
When I go solo top, I just play it super passive. I rarely harass back unless I think its perfectly safe to do so. If they decide to turret dive me, I do everything in my power to make them regret it by firing everything I have at them. Granted I never did Ashe solo top mind you, when I do solo top I try to make sure its a pusher champ of sorts (Wukong, Yorick, Irelia, etc).

Heh, sorry if I made it seem like I was Ashe solo top :P

I mean today I was Shen vs Teemo, and any time I got in range to throw my Q (which is rare with Teemo's move speed) he'd blind me and hit me at least twice with his poison darts. Or when I play Fiora against Jax, it's pretty much guaranteed that I'll lose because he can just jump away if I get the drop on him, if not he just jumps in on me and stuns me and gets some free hits.

Some solo tops I like are Irelia, Shen, Riven, and occasionally Ahri (if against Rumble, Teemo, etc.)
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By Fenrir.Tsuji 2012-06-12 21:26:07
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Rhaokin said: »
Fenrir.Tsuji said: »
In my humble opinion, the point of solo top is to hold the turret until your team can heave-ho mid or bot lane. After that, the teams usually start roaming a bit and you get a bit more freedom.
When I go solo top, I just play it super passive. I rarely harass back unless I think its perfectly safe to do so. If they decide to turret dive me, I do everything in my power to make them regret it by firing everything I have at them. Granted I never did Ashe solo top mind you, when I do solo top I try to make sure its a pusher champ of sorts (Wukong, Yorick, Irelia, etc).

Heh, sorry if I made it seem like I was Ashe solo top :P

I mean today I was Shen vs Teemo, and any time I got in range to throw my Q (which is rare with Teemo's move speed) he'd blind me and hit me at least twice with his poison darts. Or when I play Fiora against Jax, it's pretty much guaranteed that I'll lose because he can just jump away if I get the drop on him, if not he just jumps in on me and stuns me and gets some free hits.

Some solo tops I really like are Irelia, Shen, Riven, and occasionally Ahri (if against Rumble, Teemo, etc.)
All of those can solo top quite well. Like I said though, when I play solo top, it's always passive. Stay in range for EXP, but don't hesitate to pull back a bit if you think you are going to get harassed. They might get a level over you, but that's only temporary as the point is to make them push to your turret so you can gain exp and eat up the little minions.
As far as turret diving goes, well... if they turret dive and you have enough HP to survive the encounter, they are being quite silly. :P Shen solo top is an absolute nightmare to try and beat if they don't get the chance to harass.

Just try the whole passive thing the next time you play solo top. Its much easier to gank for the jungler as well as the enemy has to move a larger distance for safety. Works like a charm!
By volkom 2012-06-12 21:27:19
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Rhaokin said: »
Fenrir.Tsuji said: »
In my humble opinion, the point of solo top is to hold the turret until your team can heave-ho mid or bot lane. After that, the teams usually start roaming a bit and you get a bit more freedom.
When I go solo top, I just play it super passive. I rarely harass back unless I think its perfectly safe to do so. If they decide to turret dive me, I do everything in my power to make them regret it by firing everything I have at them. Granted I never did Ashe solo top mind you, when I do solo top I try to make sure its a pusher champ of sorts (Wukong, Yorick, Irelia, etc).

Heh, sorry if I made it seem like I was Ashe solo top :P

I mean today I was Shen vs Teemo, and any time I got in range to throw my Q (which is rare with Teemo's move speed) he'd blind me and hit me at least twice with his poison darts. Or when I play Fiora against Jax, it's pretty much guaranteed that I'll lose because he can just jump away if I get the drop on him, if not he just jumps in on me and stuns me and gets some free hits.

Some solo tops I like are Irelia, Shen, Riven, and occasionally Ahri (if against Rumble, Teemo, etc.)

fiora vs jax is rough. it can go either way. just gotta get riposte up in time :D
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2012-06-12 22:19:31
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Arghhh matey!


supports


carry


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By Ramuh.Urial 2012-06-12 22:21:38
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Arghhh matey!
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By Bismarck.Magnuss 2012-06-12 22:24:00
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Hev, your k/d looks just like mine!
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2012-06-12 22:26:14
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Bismarck.Magnuss said: »
Hev, your k/d looks just like mine!


support =O! i don't take kills i provide them.
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By Cerberus.Kengo 2012-06-12 23:48:52
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AFK farm top, NP

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By Rhaokin 2012-06-13 05:52:28
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Noob question time, does Armor Penetration from Last Whisper affect abilities too?
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-06-13 05:55:21
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Rhaokin said: »
Noob question time, does Armor Penetration from Last Whisper affect abilities too?

If they deal physical damage yes it does.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-06-13 06:35:46
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Depends on how much armor the target has. If they have a lot LW would probably be better. If you have no other armor pen I'd get a last whisper.

From the wiki on effectiveness of armor pen items: Last Whisper becomes more effective at penetrating armor than The Brutalizer when an opponent has more than 37.5 armor. It becomes more effective than Youmuu's Ghostblade at 50 armor. It becomes more effective than 3 stacks of the Black Cleaver's debuff at 112.5 armor.
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By Rhaokin 2012-06-13 07:04:44
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Thank you for the very specific and helpful answer! Sorry for deleting my question, I was embarrassed because I realized it probably sounded stupid.

I ended up building Last Whisper in the game I played just now and boy did it make my ult scary.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-06-13 14:31:23
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http://promo.leagueoflegends.com/pulsefire-ezreal/en.html

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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-06-13 14:32:40
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I love you neph it's beautiful ;_;
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-06-13 14:37:55
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Rushing to buy Ahri for Foxfire skin >.> I don't want skins often but I want that one. I also want Piltover Blitz but that's like $20.

Discovered ARAM games. Those are real fun, just too bad they're low on the IP. Can't wait for the new map.
By volkom 2012-06-13 14:39:08
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when does it come out?
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-06-13 14:39:53
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better get it as soon as its out so you dont need to spend 500 dollars on a skin
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-06-13 14:40:06
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Next patch I believe.

EDIT: Serj, you're gonna have to spell that one out for me lol. I don't understand what you mean.
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