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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-04-19 09:00:45
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but I was playing jungle WW all night and only a few games were hopeless

ww junglers make me sad, he sucks at ganking until 6, and clears way too slow :\. if i want a supression bot, ill take a skarner.

@rhaokin

if you have a severely negative KDR before 15 mins, youre feeding.
if you dont learn your lesson the first time you die, youre feeding.
if youre purposely dying, youre feeding.

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If you want a noob stomper in lower ELO, try Annie.
or jax, lot more forgiving of a pubstomper, since his skill cap is way lower than annies.
WW is a good champ to learn jungling on though, since it's so easy and forgiving. Once you get the hang of it down, since it is definitely different from laning, then try other champs.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 09:05:40
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His kit is better than karma at least XD

i do fine on her too :|

karma support can be really good, just need to be good with her
 
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-04-19 09:11:22
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
His kit is better than karma at least XD

i do fine on her too :|

karma support can be really good, just need to be good with her
You have just cemented your position as full time support :D
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 09:21:13
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
His kit is better than karma at least XD

i do fine on her too :|

karma support can be really good, just need to be good with her
You have just cemented your position as full time support :D

>.> no
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-04-19 09:23:16
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My roommate prefers to play support, shes pretty good with Soraka so far
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 09:25:58
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I normally don't prefer support, people just like calling roles like APmid and Solotop so im stuck jungling, supporting, or bottom lane ADing every game
By volkom 2012-04-19 09:43:47
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
Shiva.Schatzie said: »
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but I was playing jungle WW all night and only a few games were hopeless

ww junglers make me sad, he sucks at ganking until 6, and clears way too slow :\. if i want a supression bot, ill take a skarner.

@rhaokin

if you have a severely negative KDR before 15 mins, youre feeding.
if you dont learn your lesson the first time you die, youre feeding.
if youre purposely dying, youre feeding.

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If you want a noob stomper in lower ELO, try Annie.
or jax, lot more forgiving of a pubstomper, since his skill cap is way lower than annies.
WW is a good champ to learn jungling on though, since it's so easy and forgiving. Once you get the hang of it down, since it is definitely different from laning, then try other champs.

TF is the best noob stomper imo~ claim mid lane go AP, your burst from sheen/lichbane stacked deck shot, pick-A-card and wildcard together can bring people from full to nothing in under a second also having teleport + your ult, you can jump between anylane or jungle location or even the enemies base and pick off people out of no where and return safetly and have people complaining
global ult op
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 09:48:55
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volkom said: »
Asura.Dameshi said: »
Shiva.Schatzie said: »
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but I was playing jungle WW all night and only a few games were hopeless

ww junglers make me sad, he sucks at ganking until 6, and clears way too slow :\. if i want a supression bot, ill take a skarner.

@rhaokin

if you have a severely negative KDR before 15 mins, youre feeding.
if you dont learn your lesson the first time you die, youre feeding.
if youre purposely dying, youre feeding.

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If you want a noob stomper in lower ELO, try Annie.
or jax, lot more forgiving of a pubstomper, since his skill cap is way lower than annies.
WW is a good champ to learn jungling on though, since it's so easy and forgiving. Once you get the hang of it down, since it is definitely different from laning, then try other champs.

TF is the best noob stomper imo~ claim mid lane go AP, your burst from sheen/lichbane stacked deck shot, pick-A-card and wildcard together can bring people from full to nothing in under a second also having teleport + your ult, you can jump between anylane or jungle location or even the enemies base and pick off people out of no where and return safetly and have people complaining
global ult op

the reason Annie might be considered a better noob stomper is the AoE burst and the fact that she has that OP bear and stun and ***
 
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By Bismarck.Misao 2012-04-19 10:31:11
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I never played TF and stuff, but I think I'll trust to someone who mains TF on this :P
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By Asura.Ludoggy 2012-04-19 11:13:02
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Well the first half is global...
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 11:24:07
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I'm getting tired of Ranged ADs getting Wriggle's Lantern (They always suck and never do their *** job)
By volkom 2012-04-19 11:25:18
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
TF ult is not global!

well it use to be "global" but its pretty much near global(5500 units).

if you were midding as tf, and you ulted, you can nearly be at top or bottom lane or your base or the enemy's base.
as you can see here:



edit: and lu's right, the first half is global :P
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-19 13:43:38
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
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I don't recommend taric, he's a pretty bad support/ap. Alistar is much better! (and free + skin)

I do fine on taric, thanks though

o.o taric is a great support o.o... stun... heal... tanky .... dat ult....
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-19 13:46:34
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I'll have Miss Fortune today! less than 250 away, 1st Match bonus will take care of that! YAAAAAAAAAAY!

Next to get:

Varus (when he comes out, got RP for him)
Taric (1350, not too hard)
Shaco (3150, again not too hard)
Ezreal (6300 OHH GOD WHYYYYYYYY)

Start saving your IP around lvl 20 till you hit 30 btw. You will need runes... and only buy t3 runes... never waste IP on anything like t1 and T2 runes...
By volkom 2012-04-19 15:31:26
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Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
I'll have Miss Fortune today! less than 250 away, 1st Match bonus will take care of that! YAAAAAAAAAAY!

Next to get:

Varus (when he comes out, got RP for him)
Taric (1350, not too hard)
Shaco (3150, again not too hard)
Ezreal (6300 OHH GOD WHYYYYYYYY)

Start saving your IP around lvl 20 till you hit 30 btw. You will need runes... and only buy t3 runes... never waste IP on anything like t1 and T2 runes...

just save ip from the very beginning! :D

and you better be ap ezreal faelar! regardless of what everyone says about ap ezreal calling it crappy. its realllly amazing especially if you're good with skillshots.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 15:46:52
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volkom said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
I'll have Miss Fortune today! less than 250 away, 1st Match bonus will take care of that! YAAAAAAAAAAY!

Next to get:

Varus (when he comes out, got RP for him)
Taric (1350, not too hard)
Shaco (3150, again not too hard)
Ezreal (6300 OHH GOD WHYYYYYYYY)

Start saving your IP around lvl 20 till you hit 30 btw. You will need runes... and only buy t3 runes... never waste IP on anything like t1 and T2 runes...

just save ip from the very beginning! :D

and you better be ap ezreal faelar! regardless of what everyone says about ap ezreal calling it crappy. its realllly amazing especially if you're good with skillshots.

AD ezreal is better >:
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-04-19 15:46:53
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I bought a few champs and then saved IP from 10-20. That way as soon as I hit 20, I had a rune page set up.
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By Bismarck.Faelar 2012-04-19 15:52:39
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MISS FORTUNE GET!!!
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 15:52:56
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
MISS FORTUNE GET!!!

nice lol
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By Rhaokin 2012-04-19 16:11:15
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Bismarck.Faelar said: »
MISS FORTUNE GET!!!

Watch your mouth kid, or you'll find yourself respawning at home~
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By Cerberus.Kengo 2012-04-19 17:22:49
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I don't recommend taric, he's a pretty bad support/ap. Alistar is much better! (and free + skin)

Are you joking? You have to be.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-19 17:35:53
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
volkom said: »
Pandemonium.Anookulchandra said: »
Bismarck.Faelar said: »
I'll have Miss Fortune today! less than 250 away, 1st Match bonus will take care of that! YAAAAAAAAAAY!

Next to get:

Varus (when he comes out, got RP for him)
Taric (1350, not too hard)
Shaco (3150, again not too hard)
Ezreal (6300 OHH GOD WHYYYYYYYY)

Start saving your IP around lvl 20 till you hit 30 btw. You will need runes... and only buy t3 runes... never waste IP on anything like t1 and T2 runes...

just save ip from the very beginning! :D

and you better be ap ezreal faelar! regardless of what everyone says about ap ezreal calling it crappy. its realllly amazing especially if you're good with skillshots.

AD ezreal is better >:

*** what both of them say.. hybrid Ez made easy.. see what I did there.
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By Pandemonium.Anookulchandra 2012-04-19 17:42:29
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Are you joking? You have to be.

That was obvious
 
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 18:32:53
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Cerberus.Kengo said: »
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I don't recommend taric, he's a pretty bad support/ap. Alistar is much better! (and free + skin)

Are you joking? You have to be.

Well how do you want to play him? Full support? He's alright as a full support but other champions have more/stronger utility then him.

AP mid? That could work but he'll have one hell of a time farming.
AP bottom? Hope you dominate the lane because you are splitting a lane farm in 2.

i play him full support

other champs could do it better but a good taric will still do amazing
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-04-19 18:35:07
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taric is a good support if you need a tank support. so is alistar. alistar adds a ton of cc utility though. a really good alistar has a dozen different ways to use his q and w to move people into killable situations, or save lives.

both are good choices if you're playing both tank and support roles.

if we're going to be talking crap on champs here it should be mf lol.
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By Cerberus.Kengo 2012-04-19 18:38:27
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Cerberus.Kengo said: »
Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
I don't recommend taric, he's a pretty bad support/ap. Alistar is much better! (and free + skin)

Are you joking? You have to be.

Well how do you want to play him? Full support? He's alright as a full support but other champions have more/stronger utility then him.

AP mid? That could work but he'll have one hell of a time farming.
AP bottom? Hope you dominate the lane because you are splitting a lane farm in 2.

What other support has more utility then Taric? Explain it to me. He has the second best single target stun in the game, next to Sion's. The stun no longer is distanced based to duration, how it use to be. It has a low cooldown, and low mana cost.

Melee close by, but not last hitting, minions to reduce the cooldown on your heal, which scales great into mid and late game.

Let's not forget Shatter is by far one of the best early game buffs you can give to your AD Carry, as long as YOU DON'T USE IT UNLESS YOU'RE BURSTING DOWN AN ENEMY CHAMPION. I can't stand it when players spam Shatter when they're suppose to keep it up to help reduce the harass your carry takes.

Granted, Sona's ULT is still better for initiation, Taric's ULT used with Shurelya's Reverie, can completely shutdown a heavy carry in a team fight, and in general. Shurelya's Reverie, ULT, Dazzle, then use Shatter if needed, will give your team so much mobility and burst damage it's not even funny.

If you want to play AP with Taric, more power to you. He has no problems farming, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about. I've even had great success in jungling with him back before his change and the jungle change. It's all in knowing how to Rune and setup your Masteries for the roll, and champion.

Don't knock Taric because he's not as brainless to play as Sona, or another support champion.

"Look at me guys! All I have to do is mash QWE. I'm so good at playing Sona!"

"Oh, I'm Alistar, I don't know how to Headbutt+Pulv, so I'll just keep pushing the enemy champ to safety, ok guys?"

Tell me what champion you like to play a lot so I can tell other players he sucks because I don't know anything about him.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-04-19 18:38:53
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Cerberus.Eugene said: »
taric is a good support if you need a tank support. so is alistar. alistar adds a ton of cc utility though. a really good alistar has a dozen different ways to use his q and w to move people into killable situations, or save lives.

both are good choices if you're playing both tank and support roles.

if we're going to be talking crap on champs here it should be mfeve lol.
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