League Of Legends

you do need that sustain, his Q sucks without spell vamp, or getting it back to at least 3s cd.

lol i knew you would mention spell vamp

something like that is obvious, but if you're mentioning something like those boots on vlad for "extra sustain" means you might as well be saying you should get those boots on annie for "extra stun potential"

There you go not reading what I'm saying again

because youre using reductio ad absurdum, go ahead and play however the heck you want. just not going to bother trying to help those who dont want to listen.

Why haven't we played around sockman?

Why haven't we played around spoonman?

league > logwatch! play udyr! hes amazingly awesome, top and jungle.

wriggles, wits end, treads or tabi, spirit visage, randuins, and triforce or madreds work amazing on him

tiger + bear = rape.

No!

Honestly, you claim to be a 1750 player and you build Udyr like this?!

We've already observed that in an ideal fight, Udyr wants to hit a button every single opportunity. With no cooldown reduction, this is out-and-out impossible, and represents a DPS loss. Secondly, we know very well that a big chunk of our DPS comes from the Tiger activation, so it logically follows that more Tiger activations = more damage. Still, I'll show my work.

If you hit Tiger once per 6 seconds, at level cap and with the item build listed above, you're looking at about 655 damage per 6 seconds, or 109 DPS. If you get the blue golem buff (17.5% CDR), you've got a five second cycle, which means you could just press Q-W-E-R repeat, accounting for the GCD and reasonable latency; this boosts the Tiger proc to 131 DPS. If you've got CDR runes and a Brutalizer on top of that, you can move on to Q-W-R-Q-E-R Repeat (assuming a Bear Charge initiate), which bumps the Tiger proc to 163.75 DPS. Upgrade Brutalizer to Ghostblade and you're up to 182 DPS; it's an exponential gain until you hit the cap. For comparative purposes, you'd need another 77 AD to match the damage bonus you get to the Tiger activation just for the first 10% of CDR and 257 AD to match the full 40% CDR. I know it's an apples to oranges comparison, since I'm not figuring autoattack damage, which is a messy thing to calculate because it depends on your AS. Even assuming a 1.5 AS, which is a bit generous but compares well against the 40% reduction, the math is as follows. 4 attacks in 3.5 seconds plus a larger Tiger proc means that you'd have to buy and charge a Bloodthirster to roughly equal the damage gain that you get from a Ghostblade, some runes, and the blue buff. Last I checked, Youmu's Glostblade is an awful lot cheaper than Bloodthirster, and doesn't lose stacks on a death, and this all doesn't count the armor penetration of the Ghostblade. And yes, I know that you could just get a Bloodthirster and the Blue buff, but in doing so you've just proven my point for me: CDR is great for Udyr

yes.

theres absolutely no flaw in that build at all, run it 9/21/0. ends up with 3.3k, 220ish armor, and ~175 MR. it does amazing damage as it reaches close to max attack speed.

@serj, spirit visage is for turtle on solo top, against some comps it lets you stay there forever >_>

Why don't we all just agree...Merc Treads all the builds.

>_>

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that ahri/shyvana duo >:] awesome ganks @ mid

and hevanz,lolserj,and zah where there too :3

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Boots of Mob. & 5xPD anything and everything. D:<