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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-03-27 06:55:01
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My first perfect Ahri game! Was building Rylai's to help against Yi and then they surrendered. :(

Needs moar AD Sona.
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-03-27 07:06:38
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So a friuend of mine convinced me to get Xin Zhao. now i try against bots and im like wtf.
Any advice how to play it?

people expect me to jungle but even then is not enough.
If i jungle i miss the early level ups/kills.
If i go help the lane i risk highly death.
and as soon as i jump in a team fight im always the first to get killed. He has not escape abilities and is really hard to get kills to get feeded (more often than not others steal my kills or i just get assist)
Any advice? or just drop him ?


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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2012-03-27 07:11:16
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i've been on a roll lately. i bought amumu to give me something new to try out. still working on a build for him. any suggestions?
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-03-27 07:23:13
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Fenrir.Eneas said: »
So a friuend of mine convinced me to get Xin Zhao. now i try against bots and im like wtf.
Any advice how to play it?

people expect me to jungle but even then is not enough.
If i jungle i miss the early level ups/kills.
If i go help the lane i risk highly death.
and as soon as i jump in a team fight im always the first to get killed. He has not escape abilities and is really hard to get kills to get feeded (more often than not others steal my kills or i just get assist)
Any advice? or just drop him ?

How are you building him? If you're building him like every other AD carry you're just going to fall off late game. Tanky DPS def the way to go. (Atmog's, Merc Treads Vs. CC heavy teams)His Lv.2~3 ganks are just broken. Start Three Strike Talon, (if you want a Lv.2 gank, get his E) pretty much just charge into the enemy->Three strike talon and most people will run. If you start with a Vamp Scepter it works well with his passive.If you're just gonna lane Zhao, I'd recommend solotop (Or at least top to avoid the ranged ad meta) depending on your enemy laner you *shouldn't* be afraid to trade a few blows with his E+Q+W combo.
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-03-27 07:32:50
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i've been on a roll lately. i bought amumu to give me something new to try out. still working on a build for him. any suggestions?

AP/Health Amu can be fun. Stuff like Rhylais and RoA.

It's also awesome building really tanky and letting your tears just eat up a team
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2012-03-27 08:48:24
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Fenrir.Uzugami said: »
Fenrir.Eneas said: »
So a friuend of mine convinced me to get Xin Zhao. now i try against bots and im like wtf.
Any advice how to play it?

people expect me to jungle but even then is not enough.
If i jungle i miss the early level ups/kills.
If i go help the lane i risk highly death.
and as soon as i jump in a team fight im always the first to get killed. He has not escape abilities and is really hard to get kills to get feeded (more often than not others steal my kills or i just get assist)
Any advice? or just drop him ?

How are you building him? If you're building him like every other AD carry you're just going to fall off late game. Tanky DPS def the way to go. (Atmog's, Merc Treads Vs. CC heavy teams)His Lv.2~3 ganks are just broken. Start Three Strike Talon, (if you want a Lv.2 gank, get his E) pretty much just charge into the enemy->Three strike talon and most people will run. If you start with a Vamp Scepter it works well with his passive.If you're just gonna lane Zhao, I'd recommend solotop (Or at least top to avoid the ranged ad meta) depending on your enemy laner you *shouldn't* be afraid to trade a few blows with his E+Q+W combo.

Ok thanks i'll try that. And as far as masteries goes, defence or offence too?
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 08:58:48
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Berserker's Greaves on Xin are good actually


normally i start cloth/5 at red ganking a lane at level 2

I normally go Wriggles -> Berserkers -> Black Cleaver -> Frozen Mallet -> Randuin's Omen/Banshee's Veil depending on what you need and then you can get either another defensive item or get something like a phantom dancer or an atmas

It gets me kills
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 09:01:06
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ghostblade could be good as well I think, I don't really remember what I built on him when I played him last >.> been a while
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-03-27 09:19:49
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I think Xin would go 21/9/0 probably?
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By Rhaokin 2012-03-27 09:26:21
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I tried my first ranked match just now... While I did okay and had fun (went 5/2/9 vs. a very fed team, Talon went 1/19...) I found that our team's Tryndamere spammed pings and complained during the whole game. This is surely not very inviting, and I'm already unsure about continuing to do ranked. Even before we got into the game people were complaining nonstop about champion choices.

Also I started with the Tribunal today so I can get free points for my account, reading some of the logs from those seems even worse than my encounter. I will probably do more ranked matches just because I like the stat accumulation on my profile, but if things turn out to be as stressful and hateful as that game (or the ones I read about) I'll have to stick to good old Normal games. :/
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-03-27 09:26:28
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I generally go 21/9/0 on him. I don't like Zerker's Greaves because he has no escapes, and if the enemy team has any CC at all, most likely they're going to blow them on you. Yeah, greaves gets better kills early on since Xin's OP as *** around then. But once team fights break out, chances are since you're the one who has to be up in their faces you'll get the blunt force of CC and just fall to the ground/get your combo kited to all hell, and end up doing almost nothing. (He also, gets enough AS from Battle Cry's 80% (Lv.5) and should you built a Wit's End, or bloodrazor that works even more-so.

Ghostblade is a lot better item than Phantom Dancer for Xin imo.(Most of the time.) With the CDR(Goes well with Battle Cry) Armor Pen (Well, you know he deals physical damage and all.) And it's active pretty much gives you a Phantom Dancer.
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-03-27 09:27:11
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Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
i've been on a roll lately. i bought amumu to give me something new to try out. still working on a build for him. any suggestions?
I love building Shurelya's/Frozen Heart/Sunfire Cape/Abyssal Scepter.

F.H/cape/scepter synergize so well with Amumu's abilities its almost too good to pass them up.

I like Shurelya's just because the speed boost can help my team escape/chase or position me for a team snare, the cdr is also a nice bonus since I want my ult up asap amap.

You cant really go wrong with Amumu, can go AP, full tanky, support-ish gear buff, or hybrid( ap/tank).
 
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 09:46:23
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Fenrir.Uzugami said: »
I generally go 21/9/0 on him. I don't like Zerker's Greaves because he has no escapes, and if the enemy team has any CC at all, most likely they're going to blow them on you. Yeah, greaves gets better kills early on since Xin's OP as *** around then. But once team fights break out, chances are since you're the one who has to be up in their faces you'll get the blunt force of CC and just fall to the ground/get your combo kited to all hell, and end up doing almost nothing. (He also, gets enough AS from Battle Cry's 80% (Lv.5) and should you built a Wit's End, or bloodrazor that works even more-so.

Ghostblade is a lot better item than Phantom Dancer for Xin imo.(Most of the time.) With the CDR(Goes well with Battle Cry) Armor Pen (Well, you know he deals physical damage and all.) And it's active pretty much gives you a Phantom Dancer.

merc treads are a situational item based on the enemy team, if they have a morgana, mummy, and some other huge forms of CC i'm probably going to get them (or something like a QSS)

Most of the time the last 2 items or so on my Xin build are completely dependent on the other team, though I don't think I've ever build bloodrazors or atmas on him
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 09:47:06
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
i've been on a roll lately. i bought amumu to give me something new to try out. still working on a build for him. any suggestions?
(Amumu's jungling is really bad since the new jungle so ignore them).

I don't know what you're talking about I still love my mummy jungle
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-03-27 09:49:11
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Not optimal =/= Useless

He's got AoE abilities, he's not that bad

Also, comparing Annie to Amu is silly.
By volkom 2012-03-27 09:49:52
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jungle pantheon or gtfo
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 09:51:41
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personally I build Merc Treads, Aegis, Omen, Reverie (I get a philo stone jungling), and then some other items depending on the enemy team on mummy
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-03-27 09:53:26
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What is this? The jungle belongs to Trundle!
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 09:53:44
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NO YORICK JUNGLE OR GTFO
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-03-27 09:55:24
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NO YORICK JUNGLE OR GTFO
Do I have to show you the hue?
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 09:59:20
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Morde jungle?
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-03-27 10:02:05
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O.o I would never! Too much CS to be had in lane!
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 10:04:02
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YOU SAID HUE
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-03-27 10:05:18
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Don't need to jungle on Morde to gank!
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 10:07:10
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lately my favorite jungler has been shen though
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-27 10:07:28
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even though his ganks arent that great its just fun to do lol
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-03-27 10:10:45
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Mid on Shen was really fun. Can just farm without a care in he world lol. Never tried jungling him, have to much fun on Udyr and Trundle.
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jungle alistar is cold
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-03-27 10:31:56
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
NO YORICK JUNGLE OR GTFO
Skarner Skarner SKARNER ! ! !
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