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 Cerberus.Tikal
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-19 18:02:11
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So attack speed cap is 2.5, but how much does it take to reach that cap? I'm not home to experiment and I can't find something online with the values or how they're modified.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 18:06:46
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
So attack speed cap is 2.5, but how much does it take to reach that cap? I'm not home to experiment and I can't find something online with the values or how they're modified.

depends on the champ
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 18:07:42
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Fairy.Spence said: »
If you can't carry and win the majority of your normal games, you won't do well in ranked.

Ranked difficulty is more or less relative to your true ELO. If you belong in a higher ELO tier, you will eventually get there.

Also, people are terrible in ranked games. Mute mute mute!

and ive had good games that you could define as carrying on in ranked but it hasnt been enough

cant always carry on your own
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-19 18:10:38
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I can't find base Attack Speed values on Moba or LoL's website. :/
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-03-19 18:13:22
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Base as in, starting value? Check leegz wiki.
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By Rhaokin 2012-03-19 18:20:34
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I thought people were bad enough in Normal Game, where you literally can't play without someone talking trash. I wish someone could just be humble and have a little honor. More on this topic in a few minutes...
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-19 18:25:08
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So with an attack speed of 1.01 at 18, it'd require 234.9% Attack Speed to cap. With PD 55%, Greaves 25%, Triforce 30%, I'd still be 124.9% short of attack speed cap? Or did I glean over something vital?
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-03-19 18:30:15
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Rhaokin said: »
I thought people were bad enough in Normal Game, where you literally can't play without someone talking trash. I wish someone could just be humble and have a little honor. More on this topic in a few minutes...
Bolded, in my Leegz?
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By Rhaokin 2012-03-19 18:36:36
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I had a Fiddlesticks in my last game, who was very cocky and ridiculed me... I normally wouldn't be annoyed but he just kept going. Then my internet dropped for a minute, which ticked me off and I came back and destroyed him. He was visibly upset and tried to tell me I was playing an overpowered champion.



Is there no honor in winning humbly?

(We still lost, because we couldn't get a good push going, but it was my best effort.)
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-03-19 18:36:45
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Wit's end's a good choice, too. *shrug*
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2012-03-19 18:39:10
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i don't usually talk smack unless someone on the other team is bitching about someone being op, or one of their team mates sucking.






except for the one time the other team sat in their base for an hour and fifteen minutes. then i talked smack, cause i was very very annoyed.
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 22:21:51
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
So with an attack speed of 1.01 at 18, it'd require 234.9% Attack Speed to cap. With PD 55%, Greaves 25%, Triforce 30%, I'd still be 124.9% short of attack speed cap? Or did I glean over something vital?

i wouldnt be too worried about attack speed tbh
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-19 23:12:28
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Well I'm going to be experimenting with efficiency. Making the best choices for gear is key to getting better with a champ, and I'm estimating attack speed will make a larger difference than AD. Another thing is comparing AD to AP for Poppy, since she's a hybrid class. Comparing Bloodthirster to Hex Gunblade.

I also need to find a way to increase her survivability.
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By Shiva.Spathaian 2012-03-19 23:19:23
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Ragnarok.Hevans said: »
i don't usually talk smack unless someone on the other team is bitching about someone being op, or one of their team mates sucking.






except for the one time the other team sat in their base for an hour and fifteen minutes. then i talked smack, cause i was very very annoyed.
I still feel horrible about prolonging that game. >.>;
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-03-19 23:20:11
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Atmogs x6!
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 23:27:26
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Atmogs x6!

get the *** out
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 23:28:52
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Well I'm going to be experimenting with efficiency. Making the best choices for gear is key to getting better with a champ, and I'm estimating attack speed will make a larger difference than AD. Another thing is comparing AD to AP for Poppy, since she's a hybrid class. Comparing Bloodthirster to Hex Gunblade.

I also need to find a way to increase her survivability.

normally its best to look at some of the higher rated guides on mobafire and solomid and test them for yourself

or think of something and see if it works

Like how I used to run manamune panth

now i run atmas panth
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-03-19 23:30:37
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Asura.Lolserj said: »
Fairy.Spence said: »
Atmogs x6!

get the *** out

It's no 6 boots, but it works!
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 23:36:38
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Fairy.Spence said: »
Asura.Lolserj said: »
Fairy.Spence said: »
Atmogs x6!

get the *** out

It's no 6 boots, but it works!

that was one time and i was mad D:
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 23:36:51
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spence change your flag!
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-03-19 23:46:53
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Done!
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By Asura.Lolserj 2012-03-19 23:47:54
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>: not what i meant but okay
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-03-19 23:49:13
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I got mad at Australia so I changed it back to Canada
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-03-20 01:43:12
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Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Well I'm going to be experimenting with efficiency. Making the best choices for gear is key to getting better with a champ, and I'm estimating attack speed will make a larger difference than AD. Another thing is comparing AD to AP for Poppy, since she's a hybrid class. Comparing Bloodthirster to Hex Gunblade. I also need to find a way to increase her survivability.
Poppy does well with Hex/Trinity.

As far as AS, I personally wouldnt aim toward that as thats not personally a route that she should take(leave that to teemo/twitch/ashe/kog since AS can suit their builds depending) while it would make her a powerhouse, you leave her probably vulnerable at times(if you have a tank, build as you like), imo poppy is a tanky/dps so you would probably build her like:

Boots/trin/hex/frozen heart/madreds blood + w/e you want(lots of AP damage build m.res item, need more AD go with Infinity etc etc)

Like Aaron said, experiement and see what feels right.
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By Odin.Minefield 2012-03-20 01:58:22
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WARDS
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Wards wins games.
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By Cerberus.Sacredshot 2012-03-20 02:24:56
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the liessss wards do not win games!
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2012-03-20 03:14:17
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Odin.Hitoseijuro said: »
Cerberus.Tikal said: »
Well I'm going to be experimenting with efficiency. Making the best choices for gear is key to getting better with a champ, and I'm estimating attack speed will make a larger difference than AD. Another thing is comparing AD to AP for Poppy, since she's a hybrid class. Comparing Bloodthirster to Hex Gunblade. I also need to find a way to increase her survivability.
Poppy does well with Hex/Trinity.

As far as AS, I personally wouldnt aim toward that as thats not personally a route that she should take(leave that to teemo/twitch/ashe/kog since AS can suit their builds depending) while it would make her a powerhouse, you leave her probably vulnerable at times(if you have a tank, build as you like), imo poppy is a tanky/dps so you would probably build her like:
Boots/trin/hex/frozen heart/madreds blood + w/e you want(lots of AP damage build m.res item, need more AD go with Infinity etc etc)

Like Aaron said, experiement and see what feels right.
Where ya been? :P

And Poppy is totally not tanky. Her passive is nice but if you're a tank and 10%+ of your life is gone in a single hit, I think you're doing something wrong. She's honestly a ridiculously powerful carry with an incredibly powerful whallop. AS/Cooldown is what feels right.
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By Odin.Minefield 2012-03-20 03:22:28
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Regarding my Wards comment, a bit of a joke match we got ourselves into.

So we were going to lose, no question. So we all bought like ...as many wards as we could, and we laced the entire map with wards. Basically we could see everything, including some of their base.

Not only that, we placed around 100 wards inside our base all around, to the point it was actually lagging. I took a picture but of course it failed miserably :(.

So wish I could show it, was hilarious.
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By Asura.Dominate 2012-03-20 05:14:18
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... Well this wasn't what I was looking for, but ran into it. I laughed a little. o_o
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By Bismarck.Rharmony 2012-03-20 06:53:18
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Lulu is fun. That is all.
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