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 Fairy.Spence
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-01-16 16:30:13
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Okay, rushing a ton of armor aside when you have DBC, you're still very susceptible to AP.

Rushing it when AD don't have much AD won't really hurt them that much.

Thornmail only benefits you. Outside of taunt, no one should really be attacking you unless you get caught out alone.

Frozen heart gives one less armor, gives you 20% CDR, and has an AoE attack speed slow. Also, mana.

Randuins is built from HoG, which will help your gold income earlier on. It has 25 less armor. Gives 5% CDR, chance to slow movement and attack speed on hit, an active that slows movement speed and attack speed by 35% +. Health, and health regen.

They cost more, but are for more beneficial to the entire team.

It's a far inferior item :/ I can't think of any reason to get a thornmail unless the entire enemy team is AD and you've already got Randuin's and Frozen heart.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-16 17:08:00
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idk its just my personal preference when im tanking :/
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-01-16 17:20:09
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I know, but it's not good :/
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-16 17:21:51
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Well it works enough most of the time for early game

and I only get it on Rammus and maybe Malphite (It's gotten me multiple double kills solo) and on no one else

just my personal preference

i'd prefer to leave it at that
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-16 20:38:54
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though spence there is one thing you have one thing right for sure >: play carry in ranked and win games <.<
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By Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha 2012-01-16 20:41:34
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Thornmail is bad? News to me. >.>
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2012-01-16 20:43:28
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get thornmail

watch tryn kill himself on you

or

gangplank crit and lose a third of his health

laugh
By volkom 2012-01-16 20:44:41
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thornmail on shyvana :3
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By Bahamut.Serj 2012-01-16 20:45:45
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I always build thornmail on all my AP carries!
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-01-16 20:46:14
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That was hard as hell to read

Lots of nerfs in this patch. I'm a little sad they nerfed Graves, but he still had way too much burst :/
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By Odin.Minefield 2012-01-16 20:48:33
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No bueno :<
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By Sylph.Nephriel 2012-01-16 21:05:35
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New Jax sounds pretty stronk. Maybe I'll try him out. But that is a lot of nerfs x:
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By Eugene 2012-01-16 21:28:04
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Fairy.Spence said: »
That was hard as hell to read

Lots of nerfs in this patch. I'm a little sad they nerfed Graves, but he still had way too much burst :/
vaynes nerfs are tame compared, new queen ad?
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By Fairy.Spence 2012-01-16 21:31:45
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I've always felt Vayne was the strongest ranged AD late game. Graves falls off with his Q and R.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-16 21:57:34
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Fairy.Spence said: »
I've always felt Vayne was the strongest ranged AD late game. Graves falls off with his Q and R.

but but <3 graves D:
By volkom 2012-01-16 22:16:38
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
Fairy.Spence said: »
I've always felt Vayne was the strongest ranged AD late game. Graves falls off with his Q and R.

but but <3 graves D:

what?!

its all about grave's E late game
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By Odin.Hitoseijuro 2012-01-16 22:47:18
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Since all Ive done on my way to 30(soon) is tank 90% of my games, from whatever experience I have gained, I have to agree with Spence on the other armor pieces and not rushing thornmail, as the other armors provide more helpful boosts.

However its situational aswell, as Hevans mentioned, Tryn, I almost always rush a thornmail with him present. Mind you I generally already have 2/3 Randuim and glacial shroud for F.H., but it will probably be the first completed armor piece.

Reason being is 2/3 Randuim + shield gives you +95 armor/15% CDR/+20H.regen/5gold per 10secs(nice with philo stone)/425mana/250 health. Its a nice core to have for early/mid game. From there I can go FoN or Thorn depending on the ADs or APs. Again situational and as Aaron said, preference. On Rammus I like thornmail, on mumu I like sunfire cape, on Nas I like Frozen heart. Not to say I dont use them in combinations, but theyre -normally- pieces that I tend to use on them as they go so well and then build other pieces for my enemy.
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By Fenrir.Uzugami 2012-01-16 22:58:30
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Well, new champ looks stupid. :<
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-01-16 23:29:24
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HUE HUE HUE HUE
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By Siren.Delirium 2012-01-17 03:10:59
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>< was just in a game when they took the servers down wihtout warning. score was US 80 THEM 40 in dominion. we had 3 points capped and just aced their team... /sigh
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By Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha 2012-01-17 03:11:56
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<.< Without warning? They've been giving warnings for over an hour before it went down. :p
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By Siren.Delirium 2012-01-17 03:17:25
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it didnt display once during the entire game. usually you get the text saying it while in game as well
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By Quetzalcoatl.Yomisha 2012-01-17 03:19:18
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I've never got text DURING a game about the servers going down. There was a message at the top of the game from at least 11 PM PST onward though. So, two hours of notice at the very least. :3
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-17 10:14:14
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new champ looks like she will be a *** <.<
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-01-17 10:21:06
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
new champ looks like she will be a *** <.<
I wonder if her passive will stack with Phage/Frozen Mallet.
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-17 10:43:29
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Asura.Dameshi said: »
Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
new champ looks like she will be a *** <.<
I wonder if her passive will stack with Phage/Frozen Mallet.

phreak builds one :|
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By Shiva.Fereydoon 2012-01-17 10:47:31
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Red post says ability slows will all stack, but you can only throw one item slow, so Mallet will stack.


Also, bought Sona earlier, I'm enjoying her a ton, waiting for something to ruin that. <_<
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By Carbuncle.Lolserj 2012-01-17 10:49:35
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Shiva.Fereydoon said: »
Red post says ability slows will all stack, but you can only throw one item slow, so Mallet will stack.


Also, bought Sona earlier, I'm enjoying her a ton, waiting for something to ruin that. <_<

uhhhhhh

getting stuck with a bad ranged AD bottom lane?
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By Asura.Dameshi 2012-01-17 10:52:50
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Playing against her will be like playing against a team that all have exhaust.
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By Shiva.Fereydoon 2012-01-17 11:24:41
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Carbuncle.Lolserj said: »
Shiva.Fereydoon said: »
Red post says ability slows will all stack, but you can only throw one item slow, so Mallet will stack.


Also, bought Sona earlier, I'm enjoying her a ton, waiting for something to ruin that. <_<

uhhhhhh

getting stuck with a bad ranged AD bottom lane?

Level 21 atm, been doing mostly normals, so only encounter half the meta. I've been playing her like I should though, to get prepared.

Also, Cottontail Teemo is the best. That is all.
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