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Rajas Vs Sattva?
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By Diabolos.Torazalinto 2010-07-21 13:27:28
Also for those who don't have atonement yet...get to it. I got mine at floor 6. Do the math yourself if you want to know how long it took. It's THAT worth it.
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By Cerberus.Scruffumz 2010-07-21 13:27:38
Carbuncle.Zanno said: I would chose Tamas for pld. the extra MND for cures and extra INT for resisting black magic.
Damn all you noobs, you know nothing..
Yup
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By Midgardsormr.Soki 2010-07-21 13:28:48
Alexander.Nepharite said: Midgardsormr.Soki said: wait a minute, if you have sam 80, y play on pld? sam dancer dual wielding katanas for the win, now that the skill cap is higher ><
please post your gearsets, i'm interested in how you play this game.
i did blm/nin to 60 with dual wield int wands and -GA'ed everything from behind the pld with cover :)
no really, rajas is said to be the best ring ever, i dont use it on blm or brd, and i dont have cop done yet, going to solo it or low man at least, bards cant solo too well,
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-21 13:28:52
This whole thread reminds me why I only play with a small group of people and avoid new ppls :( If you are willing to learna and take advice thats cool, but if you are stuck in your ways for no other reason then a Childish "it works better for me" Ih8u
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-07-21 13:34:04
Diabolos.Torazalinto said: Also for those who don't have atonement yet...get to it. I got mine at floor 6. Do the math yourself if you want to know how long it took. It's THAT worth it.
agreed, got mine on floor 25
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2010-07-21 13:35:09
Midgardsormr.Soki said: Alexander.Nepharite said: Midgardsormr.Soki said: wait a minute, if you have sam 80, y play on pld? sam dancer dual wielding katanas for the win, now that the skill cap is higher ><
please post your gearsets, i'm interested in how you play this game.
i did blm/nin to 60 with dual wield int wands and -GA'ed everything from behind the pld with cover :)
no really, rajas is said to be the best ring ever, i dont use it on blm or brd, and i dont have cop done yet, going to solo it or low man at least, bards cant solo too well,
I meant like your current gearsets.
Like what you think a pld should wear or the dual katana sam/nin.
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By Cerberus.Scruffumz 2010-07-21 13:35:21
Leviathan.Tamian said: Wow thanks for all your posts guys. I am going to try both... I understand you can drop the ring and get another one after a period of time.
I will try Sattva first. Have in mind that I don't have the time and/or gil to go get those other items. I rarely do ENM, VNM runs and takes me a lot of time to get some gil.
Looks to me he still did take the advice, but the fact he said Career PLD already shouted "He's leaning towards Sattva"
Then saying he doesn't have time to get all the other things. That says he's a player who has other things he does in life, or maybe in game, and camping NMs is not his thing. Or getting gil is not his thing either. Which just puts up a banner saying "I'm going for Sattva" Which in his case, will most likely benefit HIM.
Fenrir.Mankey said: This whole thread reminds me why I only play with a small group of people and avoid new ppls :( If you are willing to learna and take advice thats cool, but if you are stuck in your ways for no other reason then a Childish "it works better for me" Ih8u
I played with my friends, only really did things with them, and avoided the elitists. Nothing pisses me off more, then elitists.
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2010-07-21 13:38:20
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Nothing pisses me off more, then elitists.
People who spread false information about gear choices annoy me more.
remember those sams saying they out dd hagun sams with their shinsoku?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-21 13:38:34
Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: i did blm/nin to 60 with dual wield int wands
Because elemental staves sucks
His dual wield wands probably give him more INT ... duh!
He can't do gear swaps because the healers won't be able to cure him !
Obvious sarcasm is obvious.
Soki is an appropriate name, indeed.
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-21 13:40:54
Quote: I played with my friends, only really did things with them, and avoided the elitists. Nothing pisses me off more, then elitists.
Imo there is a difference between elitist who yell at ppl for not having AV items/All HQ gear, then ppl who get pissed off when someone is blatantly doing it wrong for no other reason then they are either A. HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE B. Can't read English(most likely a Jp Askarz) C. Do it wrong to be "different" because being edgy on the internet is cool
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By Midgardsormr.Soki 2010-07-21 13:41:47
Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: i did blm/nin to 60 with dual wield int wands
Because elemental staves sucks
been playing since 2005
didnt have know about the ele staffs until i started blm burning at 60 and changed it up
so 2 years of pld being the best tank, and blm burn being the best exp.
to toah being ninja tp burn best, to now abyssea balance of both tp burn and manaburn, so when something is the best, it can always change
example, the ele staffs are replaceable now with a +5% more damage affinity? right?
but at the same time, will anything replace the rajas for DD
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-21 13:42:43
Midgardsormr.Soki said: Alexander.Nepharite said: Midgardsormr.Soki said: wait a minute, if you have sam 80, y play on pld? sam dancer dual wielding katanas for the win, now that the skill cap is higher ><
please post your gearsets, i'm interested in how you play this game.
i did blm/nin to 60 with dual wield int wands and -GA'ed everything from behind the pld with cover :)
no really, rajas is said to be the best ring ever, i dont use it on blm or brd, and i dont have cop done yet, going to solo it or low man at least, bards cant solo too well,
You'd use it on brd if you had a dagger DD set for solo.
Your point is moot.
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By Cerberus.Scruffumz 2010-07-21 13:42:48
Alexander.Nepharite said: Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Nothing pisses me off more, then elitists.
People who spread false information about gear choices annoy me more.
remember those sams saying they out dd hagun sams with their shinsoku?
Yes I remember those. And I remember doing it myself, except I used Rindomaru/Onimaru/etc.
And yes, I do use a Hagun.
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By Midgardsormr.Soki 2010-07-21 13:43:13
Quetzalcoatl.Giazz said: Caitsith.Shiroi said: Quote: i did blm/nin to 60 with dual wield int wands
Because elemental staves sucks
His dual wield wands probably give him more INT ... duh!
He can't do gear swaps because the healers won't be able to cure him !
Obvious sarcasm is obvious.
Soki is an appropriate name, indeed.
ha, i cast what i cast and geared that till 60 with nin sob for shadows and more int, and did lots of damage, low lvl
its true, and it was 2005
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By Fenrir.Mankey 2010-07-21 13:43:42
unless they release a STP ring with better DD stats, say haste? Then I really doubt Rajas will be replaced
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By Cerberus.Scruffumz 2010-07-21 13:45:31
Fenrir.Mankey said: Quote: I played with my friends, only really did things with them, and avoided the elitists. Nothing pisses me off more, then elitists.
Imo there is a difference between elitist who yell at ppl for not having AV items/All HQ gear, then ppl who get pissed off when someone is blatantly doing it wrong for no other reason then they are either A. HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE B. Can't read English(most likely a Jp Askarz) C. Do it wrong to be "different" because being edgy on the internet is cool
If someone gets pissed off at how another person does something, then someone needs to get slapped in the face. >_>
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2010-07-21 13:45:40
Midgardsormr.Soki said:
ha, i cast what i cast and geared that till 60 with nin sob for shadows and more int, and did lots of damage, low lvl
its true, and it was 2005
too bad its 2010 and people know how to play the game now.
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By Fenrir.Tool 2010-07-21 13:46:17
Let's put it this way:
If you hit something, go Rajas :3
Svatta is situational thus macroed only, and Tamas merely saves you some gil in replacing the need for two of INT and MND rings with a lil extras.
Rajas is rather universal in it's combination of significantly useful stats for any melee class, be it tank or otherwise.
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By Cerberus.Scruffumz 2010-07-21 13:48:33
Fenrir.Mankey said: unless they release a STP ring with better DD stats, say haste? Then I really doubt Rajas will be replaced
You can already replace Rajas as simple as that. But I'm being a smart *** I guess.
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By Shiva.Borealis 2010-07-21 13:49:11
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Fenrir.Mankey said: unless they release a STP ring with better DD stats, say haste? Then I really doubt Rajas will be replaced
You can already replace Rajas as simple as that. But I'm being a smart *** I guess.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-21 13:49:22
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Fenrir.Mankey said: unless they release a STP ring with better DD stats, say haste? Then I really doubt Rajas will be replaced
You can already replace Rajas as simple as that. But I'm being a smart *** I guess. Head -> Turban
Hands -> Dusk (+1)
Legs -> Byakko's
Feet -> Fumas
Ring2 -> Rajas
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-07-21 13:49:43
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Leviathan.Tamian said: Wow thanks for all your posts guys. I am going to try both... I understand you can drop the ring and get another one after a period of time.
I will try Sattva first. Have in mind that I don't have the time and/or gil to go get those other items. I rarely do ENM, VNM runs and takes me a lot of time to get some gil.
Looks to me he still did take the advice, but the fact he said Career PLD already shouted "He's leaning towards Sattva"
Then saying he doesn't have time to get all the other things. That says he's a player who has other things he does in life, or maybe in game, and camping NMs is not his thing. Or getting gil is not his thing either. Which just puts up a banner saying "I'm going for Sattva" Which in his case, will most likely benefit HIM.
you seem to be under the impression that you need some secret super special gear to get benefit out of rajas?
you could gear yourself entirely off the ah for under a million gil in a way that would allow you to perform your job quite well and benefit greatly from rajas
i don't think advising a person to gear intelligently is elitist
no one is telling him he sucks cause he doesn't have ares/ageis
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By Quetzalcoatl.Giazz 2010-07-21 13:49:43
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Fenrir.Mankey said: unless they release a STP ring with better DD stats, say haste? Then I really doubt Rajas will be replaced
You can already replace Rajas as simple as that. But I'm being a smart *** I guess.
Full Usukane on SAM? ...
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By Cerberus.Scruffumz 2010-07-21 13:50:15
Yeah I was trying to find one Turban/Dusk/Byakko but that was the first one I found. lol
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By Leviathan.Tamian 2010-07-21 13:50:26
Cerberus.Scruffumz said:
Then saying he doesn't have time to get all the other things. That says he's a player who has other things he does in life, or maybe in game, and camping NMs is not his thing. Or getting gil is not his thing either. Which just puts up a banner saying "I'm going for Sattva" Which in his case, will most likely benefit HIM.
Are you spying on me lol?? That could not be more accurate.
About the Organics comment... the thing I do the most in this game is Campaign Battle, so with all the damn DD out there I can't just go with a Macuahuitl +1 and expect to hold hate, do decent damage and get good exp. Some could use this comment to say that Rajas would work better in campaign battle, but again, I guess I am "old school" and like to take little damage and hold hate on a regular basis outside campaign.
I just want decent gear to play the game as I like, for fun and not just to impress others or avoid hearing crap from elitists.
I was just asking for an opinion, not a judgement.
Peace!
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2010-07-21 13:50:47
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Fenrir.Mankey said: unless they release a STP ring with better DD stats, say haste? Then I really doubt Rajas will be replaced
You can already replace Rajas as simple as that. But I'm being a smart *** I guess.
That's worse than anything Soki has said in this thread.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2010-07-21 13:52:37
Cerberus.Scruffumz said: Yeah I was trying to find one Turban/Dusk/Byakko but that was the first one I found. lol You still forgot Fumas.
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By Alexander.Nepharite 2010-07-21 13:53:09
Leviathan.Tamian said: Cerberus.Scruffumz said:
Then saying he doesn't have time to get all the other things. That says he's a player who has other things he does in life, or maybe in game, and camping NMs is not his thing. Or getting gil is not his thing either. Which just puts up a banner saying "I'm going for Sattva" Which in his case, will most likely benefit HIM.
Are you spying on me lol?? That could not be more accurate.
About the Organics comment... the thing I do the most in this game is Campaign Battle, so with all the damn DD out there I can't just go with a Macuahuitl +1 and expect to hold hate, do decent damage and get good exp. Some could use this comment to say that Rajas would work better in campaign battle, but again, I guess I am "old school" and like to take little damage and hold hate on a regular basis outside campaign.
I just want decent gear to play the game as I like, for fun and not just to impress others or avoid hearing crap from elitists.
I was just asking for an opinion, not a judgement.
Peace!
Sattva ring really won't make you take any less dmg worthwhile
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For a career PLD which one is more convenient? I don't plan to level many DD jobs, I have SAM79 and will end DRG but that's it. I don't do dynamis, but just started doing Limbus, Sky and soon nyzul climbs using both SAM and PLD.
I keep hearing that Rajas also works good on PLD but I am not sure... the enmity, vit and agi from the sattva looks better to me.
Thanks for the help.
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