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Aurore Vs Shura body
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By Odin.Spccdog 2010-07-20 23:12:47
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I havent found any info on this but curious if it has ben tested yet.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2010-07-21 04:42:48
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same accuracy

The attack difference is 18 so about 4.5% damage (likely to be only relevant on melee since you can use the same body for WS) in favor to shura, but aurore has 1 more fstr which weakens this advantage by 1.5% => 3% advantage for shura on melee dot. This should be ~ 1.8% global increase.

On the other hand DA+2% is generally 2% increase in all your damage (except when using oAT weapons like magians ones)

So aurore doublet will generally be better for TP (slightly). Note that you might want to WS in shura body for a lot of things though.


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By Valefor.Prothescar 2010-07-21 05:42:21
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How do you figure 2% DA is a 2% increase in overall damage?
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2010-07-21 05:45:19
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Valefor.Prothescar said:
How do you figure 2% DA is a 2% increase in overall damage?

you do about 2% more melee damage and do weaponskill 2% more frequently.
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By Sylph.Hitetsu 2010-07-21 05:45:21
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I'm no MNK, but I was just discussing this (well, similar) with a MNK friend and I'm curious. How does 5/5 Aurore match up against a Mix/Match set outside Salvage gear?

Like I said, I'm no MNK; so these sets may be a little off, but they're pretty close to how I'd be aiming to gear as a MNK.

Mix & Match

Haste +25%
Store TP +6
Accuracy +32
Attack +59
DEX+19
STR+12

Delay per hit (round) = 4.4sec
11 hits (rounds) -> 100%
48.4sec total -> 100%
90.2% Accuracy with Marinara Pizza


5/5 Aurore

Haste +23%
Store TP +14
Accuracy +39
Attack +17
DEX+17
STR+20

Delay per hit (round) = 4.5sec
10 hits (rounds) -> 100%
45sec total -> 100%
93.5% Accuracy with Marinara Pizza



I've been told MNK shouldn't really use 5/5 Aurore, but aside from the -42 attack, I can't really see why. Surely knocking off 4.5 seconds per WS would be better than hitting a little harder each swing, right?
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By Cerberus.Godlyhank 2010-07-21 05:50:08
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Attack is capped by the amount of str you got anyway :/ acc > attack anyway, more acc and full attack food > attack and acc food..
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By Bismarck.Altar 2010-07-21 05:59:07
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Sylph.Hitetsu said:
I've been told MNK shouldn't really use 5/5 Aurore, but aside from the -42 attack, I can't really see why. Surely knocking off 4.5 seconds per WS would be better than hitting a little harder each swing, right?
Not a mnk, and I dunno about ws/tp splits, but 2% haste is kind of a big deal.

Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Valefor.Prothescar said:
How do you figure 2% DA is a 2% increase in overall damage?

you do about 2% more melee damage and do weaponskill 2% more frequently.
Actually going to be lower than 2% if subbing war or using Brutal.
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By Cerberus.Godlyhank 2010-07-21 06:03:43
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Id say juogi all the way xD, attack is like anything else in ffxi... it increases the chance of hitting the higher end of your damage curve... stacking attack doesnt nesisarily mean youl hit high dmg :(, iv seen my mnk friend remove 54 attack and his dmg wasnt effected in the slightest... on the other hand if you crit of dbl attack stack, tht DOES make a diff, a huge one at that xD
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2010-07-21 06:36:19
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Sylph.Hitetsu said:
I'm no MNK, but I was just discussing this (well, similar) with a MNK friend and I'm curious. How does 5/5 Aurore match up against a Mix/Match set outside Salvage gear?

Like I said, I'm no MNK; so these sets may be a little off, but they're pretty close to how I'd be aiming to gear as a MNK.

Mix & Match

Haste +25%
Store TP +6
Accuracy +32
Attack +59
DEX+19
STR+12

Delay per hit (round) = 4.4sec
11 hits (rounds) -> 100%
48.4sec total -> 100%
90.2% Accuracy with Marinara Pizza


5/5 Aurore

Haste +23%
Store TP +14
Accuracy +39
Attack +17
DEX+17
STR+20

Delay per hit (round) = 4.5sec
10 hits (rounds) -> 100%
45sec total -> 100%
93.5% Accuracy with Marinara Pizza



I've been told MNK shouldn't really use 5/5 Aurore, but aside from the -42 attack, I can't really see why. Surely knocking off 4.5 seconds per WS would be better than hitting a little harder each swing, right?

First set is comfortable better (mainly attack & haste) but the second set on the other hand is infinitely easier to get (except black belt) because it costs ... 115k lol.
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By Sylph.Elgorian 2010-07-25 14:37:14
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Cerberus.Godlyhank said:
Id say juogi all the way xD, attack is like anything else in ffxi... it increases the chance of hitting the higher end of your damage curve... stacking attack doesnt nesisarily mean youl hit high dmg :(, iv seen my mnk friend remove 54 attack and his dmg wasnt effected in the slightest... on the other hand if you crit of dbl attack stack, tht DOES make a diff, a huge one at that xD


Yeah, I can strip naked in Dynamis (Turban/Shura/MeleeGloves/Byakko/Fuma keep rings/ammo and such on) and generally I still see about the same numbers as I do with it all on...

Also.... Galka in Pink doesn't look too amazing...
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By Carbuncle.Virtuosus 2010-07-25 14:49:18
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Uh, why are you comparing full aurore to the normally used set? He meant Aurore vs Shura only in the body slot, lol at even thinking about gimping yourself with full aurore.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-07-25 15:04:41
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The correct answer is

With footwork. Assuming 70 base dex, 95% accuracy with marinara pizza +1
(with sniper's ring +1 or toreador's you can change tiphia to thew bomblet)
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2010-07-25 15:07:31
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My god that set looks so ugly
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By Alexander.Temaruma 2010-07-25 15:14:38
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
The correct answer is

With footwork. Assuming 70 base dex, 95% accuracy with marinara pizza +1
(with sniper's ring +1 or toreador's you can change tiphia to thew bomblet)

Ursine claws where
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-07-25 15:17:53
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Alexander.Temaruma said:

Ursine claws where
Oh yeah
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 15:31:32
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Alexander.Temaruma said:

Ursine claws where
Oh yeah

Not sure what the haste value on Usu pants/Poise are exactly, but Tiercel would have to be adding .5-6 Haste to beat adding fStr to neck slot I think
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2010-07-25 15:33:12
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Ifrit.Darkanaseur said:

Not sure what the haste value on Usu pants/Poise are exactly, but Tiercel would have to be adding .5-6 Haste to beat adding fStr to neck slot I think
afaik Tiercel only gives .39% haste when you're wearing full usu
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By Ifrit.Darkanaseur 2010-07-25 15:34:27
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.29 with full usu. I just don't have anything to reference for the haste on the pants standalone.