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By Bahamut.Valencea 2010-07-08 19:27:29
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Bismarck.Maxse said:
Whats wrong with Death Note?
Nothing, people just usually lol at me being a death note fangirl
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By Sylph.Akibakei 2010-07-08 21:41:05
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wow, so glad I got caught up on this thread. sheesh, I can see some idiots really showed up here.
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By Bismarck.Maxse 2010-07-08 21:59:40
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Sylph.Akibakei said:
wow, so glad I got caught up on this thread. sheesh, I can see some idiots really showed up here.

Yes idiots sertaintly did welcome to the party idiot
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-07-08 22:19:53
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Teal has magic acc +3 On top of the additional dmg from mag atk. The only thing teal doesn't have over mahatma is -enm. If you needed the extra mnd for stoneskin that mahatma would give then you were missing other pieces.
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By Ramuh.Migado 2010-07-09 04:17:14
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Lol at dusk gloves being 20k. I sold a nq pair in 2005 for 20M. Then turned around and crafted +1...
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By Leviathan.Dubont 2010-07-09 04:25:43
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Cerberus.Excelior said:
Bismarck.Maxse said:
I have an 80 dark mule thank you learn the game son.

I'm done with you. You really are probably one of the dumbest people I've met on these forums so far. Believe me I've even read everything nabis and korpg typed.
where do I stand? =D
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By Unicorn.Sedres 2010-07-09 04:30:22
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Seeing as they can get the Abyssea gear for free, they're just cutting their losses seeing as we've another 19 levels to go. Might as well get good gear for free as opposed to having dead money in slightly better gear for a short period of time.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-07-09 05:09:06
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Siren.Catabolic said:
Teal has magic acc 3 On top of the additional dmg from mag atk. The only thing teal doesn't have over mahatma is -enm. If you needed the extra mnd for stoneskin that mahatma would give then you were missing other pieces.

You'r a 80 RDM, you surely know that MND is used for more than stoneskin, right?
Slow\para HERRO!
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2010-07-09 05:11:22
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Odin.Sinharvest said:
I lol at people who own Antares harness.

I lol at people owning pearl hauberk
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By Ifrit.Duanyu 2010-07-09 06:11:24
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perle solerets are the best so far for sam ws ^^
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-07-09 07:14:06
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Siren.Catabolic said:
Teal has magic acc 3 On top of the additional dmg from mag atk. The only thing teal doesn't have over mahatma is -enm. If you needed the extra mnd for stoneskin that mahatma would give then you were missing other pieces.

You'r a 80 RDM, you surely know that MND is used for more than stoneskin, right?
Slow\para HERRO!

Half of all enfeebles are MND based. Even with zero mnd in the leg slot as elvaan RDM, I'd still have MND in the mid 90's w/343 enfeebling. Along with ice, wind, and earth accuracy merits. My MND based enfeebles aren't getting resisted often. Much more concerned with INT based enfeebles. Teal Slops give roughly +14 INT. I can see Taru and Mithra RDM's clinging to Mahatma's cause their base MND is garbage. Besides that All other RDM's and BLM's should probably jump all over Teal Slops.
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By Caitsith.Ilolatyou 2010-07-09 07:20:15
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You think MND in "the mid 90's" is good...?
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By Bahamut.Veritas 2010-07-09 07:27:16
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You've got to be kidding. Not only is resist is not an issue at 80 at all for even the most scrubly of scrub RDMs, but do you think your Slow II is worth anything with only 90 MND? You need dMND of 75 to hit cap, and on anything worthwhile you're going to be doing like a 26% Slow II. The point of Mahatma Slops for RDM isn't accuracy, that's what Nashira is for.
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-07-09 07:28:06
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that would be with a zero in the leg slot. Closer to 100 with Teal Slops. My enfeeble build is set up to balance INT and MND. So the focus is more on INT. As an elvaan it would be effortless to have an obscenely high MND build, but then half my enfeebles(INT based)would be garbage. You wanna talk about "i has 120mnd" good for you. You do realize mnd past a certain point is worthless right? I'd rather not shoot myself in the foot on half my enfeebles cause I want to epeen about how high I can push my MND skill.
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By Caitsith.Ilolatyou 2010-07-09 07:30:04
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Siren.Catabolic said:
As an elvaan it would be effortless to have an obscenely high MND build, but then half my enfeebles(INT based)would be garbage.

You only use one gear set for all enfeebles...?

Dear god, quit RDM please.
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-07-09 07:34:41
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It's a game. Not a job. Hop out of your moms basement and get some fresh air.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-07-09 07:37:28
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Oh no he didn't pull the RL card did he!?
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By Bahamut.Veritas 2010-07-09 07:38:25
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Yes, past a certain point, like i already mentioned (dMND > 75), it is worthless. I'm not pushing my epeen, the difference between a 39% Slow II and a 25% Slow II is significant. It doesn't matter if the spell is MND or INT based, its purpose determines the gear you need to use. For example, try a 22s recast Bind and notice a world of difference vs the standard 30s recast Bind.
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By Caitsith.Ilolatyou 2010-07-09 07:38:27
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Scrubs always resort to rl card when you point out how much ***they suck at their job =(

Stupidity and unoriginality combined, cool.
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-07-09 07:44:22
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Says the person hiding their account. LOL k. If you think the amount of enfeebling sets you have determines if you're a good rdm or not, you're clueless. You sound like one of those ppl that would reject a person from a pty based solely on gear. The players that ruin the game for everyone else cause they QQ about everything. Skill on a job has nothing to do with gear
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2010-07-09 07:46:24
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Skill brings knowledge of gear and it's situations.
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By Caitsith.Ilolatyou 2010-07-09 07:50:48
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Stop rating down my posts because I pointed out what a scrub you are. It's very hurtful.

There is a huge difference between a RDM who uses one set for all enfeebs, and a RDM that has multiple sets for all situations. I can't believe there are still RDMs at this point that use one set for everything... That's just embarrassing lol.
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2010-07-09 07:56:20
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Siren.Catabolic said:
Says the person hiding their account. LOL k. If you think the amount of enfeebling sets you have determines if you're a good rdm or not, you're clueless. You sound like one of those ppl that would reject a person from a pty based solely on gear. The players that ruin the game for everyone else cause they QQ about everything. Skill on a job has nothing to do with gear

if all of your ***gets resisted i have a hard time seeing how "skill" is going to make up for it

if you've got one enfeeble set, yeah, it's probably fair to say you should go ahead and quit the game
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-07-09 07:59:59
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didn't say i use 1 set for everything. I have 5 sets on rdm. Again with the elitist mentality. Must be tough being so full of yourself.
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By Siren.Catabolic 2010-07-09 08:11:51
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Carbuncle.Sevourn said:
Siren.Catabolic said:
Says the person hiding their account. LOL k. If you think the amount of enfeebling sets you have determines if you're a good rdm or not, you're clueless. You sound like one of those ppl that would reject a person from a pty based solely on gear. The players that ruin the game for everyone else cause they QQ about everything. Skill on a job has nothing to do with gear

if all of your ***gets resisted i have a hard time seeing how "skill" is going to make up for it

if you've got one enfeeble set, yeah, it's probably fair to say you should go ahead and quit the game

Which wasn't the point at all. Saying someone has no reason to be on a job cause they don't have numerous sets of gear for 1 specific action is HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE. The number of gear sets a player has, has very little to do with how good a player is at the job. Everyone has seen players with all the top gear and they were completely awful, and seen players with horrid gear that were very efficient.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-07-09 08:28:43
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Siren.Catabolic said:
didn't say i use 1 set for everything. I have 5 sets on rdm. Again with the elitist mentality. Must be tough being so full of yourself.

But you use 1 set for enfeebling, which should be 3\4 sets.
Skill set for MND enfeebs and potency set for MND enfeebs.
You need a set for INT enfeebs.
A bind\grav set with add haste in it can be nice for soloing.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2010-07-09 08:40:46
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Wait for level 99 and the +20 mnd legs they'll release before discussing so little difference.

@ kvazz, you solo abyssea ? Lolrdmsolo.
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-07-09 08:54:30
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I think this is where people forget the simple things.

Casual: A player that usually plays the game in a lax manner, or not as often as "Hardcore." More often than not, the casual keeps things simple and doesn't delve too deep into the nitty gritty details of game mechanics or numbers. This is in no way a negative way to play, but is often looked down upon by "Hardcores."

Hardcore: A player that strives to be the best in their chosen class/profession/job. They will keep up to date on gear choices, math, swapping, etc. Hardcores will often carry things that offer a minimal bonus just to push their limits. They are also quite competitive, which usually serves to make them stronger.


I don't think "need" is the right word. Will it make someone more efficient or powerful? Sure. However, not everyone's going to dedicate the time/effort, for one reason or another, to being the best of the best of the best.

I'm tired, but what I think I'm trying to say is, calm down. It really isn't that big of a deal. I'm happy with enfeebles and buffs, even if they can be somewhat sub-par(Hell, if they stick I don't care). If you prefer something more hardcore and perfect, that's perfectly fine, but it's no reason to go off on someone else and tell them to quit.

Yeah yeah... "You're a casual, gtfo." *Yawn*
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2010-07-09 08:58:40
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Wait for level 99 and the 20 mnd legs they'll release before discussing so little difference.

@ kvazz, you solo abyssea ? Lolrdmsolo.

Naw, I dont play atm, needed a break...
GF and sunshine and outside etc -> ffxi with too much new stuff atm :P
I have an addictive mind, if I start abyssea etc I wont be able to stop ;;

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Ramuh.Tousou said:
I think this is where people forget the simple things.

Casual: A player that usually plays the game in a lax manner, or not as often as "Hardcore." More often than not, the casual keeps things simple and doesn't delve too deep into the nitty gritty details of game mechanics or numbers. This is in no way a negative way to play, but is often looked down upon by "Hardcores."

Hardcore: A player that strives to be the best in their chosen class/profession/job. They will keep up to date on gear choices, math, swapping, etc. Hardcores will often carry things that offer a minimal bonus just to push their limits. They are also quite competitive, which usually serves to make them stronger.


I don't think "need" is the right word. Will it make someone more efficient or powerful? Sure. However, not everyone's going to dedicate the time/effort, for one reason or another, to being the best of the best of the best.

I'm tired, but what I think I'm trying to say is, calm down. It really isn't that big of a deal. I'm happy with enfeebles and buffs, even if they can be somewhat sub-par(Hell, if they stick I don't care). If you prefer something more hardcore and perfect, that's perfectly fine, but it's no reason to go off on someone else and tell them to quit.

Yeah yeah... "You're a casual, gtfo." *Yawn*

Well yeah, BUT.. There's a pretty huge difference in a good Slow II and a sucky one, so a potency set for MND enfeebs is kinda important... not a minor upgrade >_>
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By Ramuh.Tousou 2010-07-09 09:15:16
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Cerberus.Kvazz said:
Well yeah, BUT.. There's a pretty huge difference in a good Slow II and a sucky one, so a potency set for MND enfeebs is kinda important... not a minor upgrade >_>

I don't doubt it, and I'm sure in specific situations the extra 14%(using the numbers above) is what can tip the scale between a successful fight or mass death.

Other than that niche, though, it doesn't seem very game-breaking, or at least, not to the point where I'd freak out about it. That's speaking as a casual, though, and as someone without a job fully leveled and merited. If I'm fighting Mr Super Powerful Boss Monster, I'd look into for the sake of my group, but piddly li'l Campaign mob or something? Not so much.(That is, unless I had the gear for it already, then it's just a matter of typing a few extra /equip commands.)